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LadyPact -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 9:03:19 AM)

Trimming to address only pertinent points.
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
As I said the other day, and more than a few times, no matter the site...at an op posting someone's mail..I am not happy with it unless there is a valid reason. And here I find myself as guilty as them ( a mod delete my post)

Doesn't quite explain the hypocrisy. I'm still looking for the so-called 'valid reason'. You didn't understand why she was helping another person on another thread. That's a conversation that could have (and was) being held privately with no reason to publicize it.

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DocStrange (and all that side with him) will you report ladyconstatine for slander and sockery and making up stuff, and prey tell us what can be respected regarding such words and will you apologise to me for siding with her slander

Not DocStrange, but I'll be happy to answer for my own case. If you are looking for an apology because I thought what you posted was a shitty thing to do, you're going to have a long wait. I would have absolutely reported a private email exchange with identifying markers of whom the exchange was held, if another poster hadn't gotten there first. It's been against ToS/forum guidelines on this site for as long as I've been a member here and I happen to agree with the policy.

As for the supposed sockery, exactly what do you have to support the claim? Since this is a thread about what constitutes a sock puppet, here's the definition that comes from Wiki:

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A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term, a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock, originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an Internet community who spoke to, or about, themselves while pretending to be another person.[1] The term now includes other misleading uses of online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a person or organization,[2] to manipulate public opinion,[3] or to circumvent a suspension or ban from a website. A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym[4] and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer. Many online communities attempt to block sockpuppets.


Basically, to prove your claim, you would need to show that she has another identity than the one that she is using. Do you have some evidence that Lady C is using another account to support any of the threads that she's been on or used to attempt to change others opinions of her original account? Is she circumventing moderation in some way that doesn't show because she's still able to post? Any polls that have been swayed because she's voting multiple times? If not, you're just throwing unsubstantiated suspicions out there.

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As for my mail and questions they are self explanatory. And something is amiss regarding the initial thread. Draw your own conclusion.
you have free will.

No. You not getting it or being able to comprehend the answers that were given on the other thread doesn't mean something was deceitful about it. I understood it just fine. You didn't believe the thread? That's on you, but I will point out that you aren't the authority between fact and fiction.

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You chose not to answer and became annoyed when I pointed out several times you had not answered my questions and then blocked me..something is amiss...so much for my concern :)

Actually, she did. Do I need to go over to the thread and highlight the answers for you? I know some people wouldn't understand why a person would help a struggling student. Maybe that was a part of the lack of comprehension.

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I have no idea how to remove thee ladyc but I am fairly certain I can work that out (give me five mins and click your shoes together)

To remove a person from your friends list, go to the home page and select the friends tab. Left click on the specific friend. You will be taken to the option of "remove friend". There. Now you know how to accommodate her request.

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Sure, maybe I shouldn't have copied and pasted (verbatim) but when no-one affords you the right of reply and gets annoyed at your concern, and persistently omits key details then something seems very off to me, still does.

Maybe? You're still unclear on whether that's the right or wrong thing to do?

Nobody here has a "right of reply," especially when the information had already been posted. Some of the posts on that thread are pretty long and had plenty of detail for a person to understand the conversation.

Real sorry if it still seems amiss to you but it was a great display on exactly WHY somebody shouldn't trust certain people with background details.

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As for posting the message I apologise to ladyconstatine for posting it, not for thinking something is gravely amiss.

I think you might be much better off if you got with the fact that you aren't the arbitrator of whether a long standing poster is giving adequate information on a thread or not.

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Definition of a sock is a liar no matter how you look at it and i cant be bothered with any of them and their numbers are truly vast I find some to be dangerous and pity the genuine crossing paths with them.

If that were really the case, I would think you'd have some interest in the obvious sock puppet creator that is hounding the forums these days, rather than stunts like this one.





Wayward5oul -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 9:04:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

His avatar is attractive and catches my attention ,but I don't follow his posts (typically) as the few times I tried his style of writing baffled me (I'd rather read Shakespeare). So, I've no idea regarding his grasp of reality. I just found his actions on this thread in poor taste.

His style of writing is very off-putting, but I usually do attempt to read them, as an exercise in mental gymnastics. Usually he seemed to vaguely stay on topic while working in a weird fascination with cake and muffins.

But there has always been a question in my mind regarding his grip on reality, frankly because he never seems to be able to communicate in a realistic manner. Even if it is all an act he puts on to troll, seems like the amount of time has to spend in that mindset to carry this out cannot be mentally healthy.

But here lately he has gotten to be an ass, so I have stopped reading his posts too.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 9:14:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cell

It would be good if that post stays (inappropriate though posting it may be), because it's a prime example to other people of what you can expect if you interact with WickedsDesire... That's one reason I don't like the system of removing objectionable posts from a person's posting history. Posts that would otherwise serve as a warning to other people.

I said the same thing on here a few months ago when posts were routinely being removed. If content absolutely needs to go, I would rather that the offending section be removed, with a note about it being a violation. That is somewhat what is being done now. At least that way people who read the posts may not know exactly what was said, but they know who said it and why it was deleted. That wouldn't go way.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 9:28:21 AM)

LOL, I just read LP's reply as I have him on hide because I can't be bothered with the insanity, weird spelling and the obsession with baked goods...

In case I'm accused of being a sockpuppet, I am pretty sure a mod here would be able to check as how many other people I post here, you'd find the answer would be 1

As for the story not being true, I mentioned the student over the years to several people, some people from here are also real life friends and friends on FB, they are welcome to go through my friend list on FB, then look at the posts and pics of the student, especially his recent wedding pics (kinda hard to fake, especially with years and years of background and pics, education history, family and such on Facebook...)

I was simply fed up with him being too lazy to read and asking the same question over and over again, or maybe being too intoxicated to comprehend the answers.

Since I have ZERO desire to ever have any contact with him, his opinion doesn't matter, I have respect for quite of a few of the posters here, so if they want to check out the story, they can PM me and we can exchange FB identities (in case they don't have it already) and friend each other, it's all there...




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 10:33:50 AM)

You don't need to defend or verify anything, LadyC. As for FB, I'd enjoy friending you and just about any others who regularly post here. Like you, I have quite a few friends that overlap the different sites. There really isn't any reason to feel compelled to prove who you are or what you say is fact when there are so many of us who have been open about our genuine selves and have inter-connecting friends and interests. One of the reasons I've stayed with this pseudonym these couple of decades is the accountability. People I know and respect know me in person under this name. They'd call me on any deception in a heartbeat!.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 10:45:30 AM)

Just don't bitch about how vanilla my profile is, LOL, I'm not exactly going through great lengths to hide BDSM, at the same time, no need to rub anybody's face into it and I know some people might be offended, but I see it like anything else, private preference, I guess even an avid nudist possibly would not post nekkid pics on FB ;)




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 10:47:40 AM)

Lol. All my FB has is pics of grandbabies and updates on bike rides.
Oh! And pics of my dog! Mostly pics of Axel.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 11:07:39 AM)

HAHAHAHA, yes, I do seem to have tons of dog and cat pictures...




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 11:38:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cell

It would be good if that post stays (inappropriate though posting it may be), because it's a prime example to other people of what you can expect if you interact with WickedsDesire... That's one reason I don't like the system of removing objectionable posts from a person's posting history. Posts that would otherwise serve as a warning to other people.


Generally speaking,I agree. There really isn't any reason, in my opinion, to delete or hide a post other than direct ToS violations such as reference to illegal situations. In this case, I don't care so much about it being a reference back to him as it being a betrayal of a private correspondence. If LadyC wanted it pulled, I think it should be. She did not consent to have their private correspondence posted by him.

Then again. Nothing we put out there on the web is ever truly private so I guess there's that. Personally, if I know a person has shown themselves to lack discretion or trustworthiness, I certainly wouldn't be interested in sharing the more private aspects of my interests and life.




Lucylastic -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 12:27:47 PM)


Im not interested in "verifying" your honesty LC..But if you would like to FB let me know:) I have a nilla mostly fb, I do have kink friends on it, but all in nilla names.
THat goes for any of the regular posters too:)




LadyConstanze -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 1:06:39 PM)

I'm sending you guys my FB




NookieNotes -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 1:24:54 PM)

I'll connect with any/all reasonable peeps on FB. Have a few already. ET, who seems to be busy, for one... *smiles*




Wayward5oul -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 2:19:32 PM)

Mine is entirely vanilla, and I am not on it as much as I used to be. But I do have a couple of kink friends on it. :)




Cell -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/7/2016 11:16:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
...But there has always been a question in my mind regarding his grip on reality,...
Hmmm, I don't know about that... but I do remember somewhere he likened his writing to that of Carl Sagan, and almost choked to death.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
Personally, if I know a person has shown themselves to lack discretion or trustworthiness, I certainly wouldn't be interested in sharing the more private aspects of my interests and life.
Yer, me too.




Cell -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 1:55:45 AM)

'And I almost' lol




LadyConstanze -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 4:07:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cell

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
...But there has always been a question in my mind regarding his grip on reality,...
Hmmm, I don't know about that... but I do remember somewhere he likened his writing to that of Carl Sagan, and almost choked to death.




On behalf of Carl Sagan (RIP) I am offended




Saintchrispin -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 10:18:05 AM)

This is a thread of mad hatter sock puppets having conversations each complaining about the other and for no logical purpose.




Kinkymidlander -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 1:16:57 PM)

I'm glad i asked this question.

Not only has it made things a little clearer, but it has given valuable insight into those that post here. I lurked for a few days ducking in and out of boards, but now feel i've got a (slightly) better understanding of those that are here to discuss/mingle/interact.

x




Lucylastic -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 1:31:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kinkymidlander

I'm glad i asked this question.

Not only has it made things a little clearer, but it has given valuable insight into those that post here. I lurked for a few days ducking in and out of boards, but now feel i've got a (slightly) better understanding of those that are here to discuss/mingle/interact.

x

lurking is a damn fine start:)




LadyPact -> RE: Seriously, what is a Sock? (1/8/2016 2:05:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kinkymidlander
I'm glad i asked this question.

Not only has it made things a little clearer, but it has given valuable insight into those that post here. I lurked for a few days ducking in and out of boards, but now feel i've got a (slightly) better understanding of those that are here to discuss/mingle/interact.

x

Cool. In case I missed it, welcome to the boards.





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