Kana
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Whether or not I agree is irrelevant-what is is that the partners are willing and voluntary. As long as that's the case, then it's cool with me. This sort of response is what I expected from what I consider the overly tolerant lame ducks. ... My kink is not your kink. If your kink is cooking and killing some slave in an oven well that's ok ... Really? you honestly feel that way? Then perhaps you're what's wrong with this lifestyle and certainly not what's right. Perhaps you've been in it so long you've simply become jaded to what's acceptable and what's not. Perhaps you should be locked up right along with him. This "lifestyle" has become far too tolerant its practitioners. So tolerant that we often protect those among us that are honestly sociopaths and psychotics masquerading as Dominants. Doing real harm to impressionable young subs. All under the guise of consent. I say it's high time we turned them out and not give them safe haven any longer. I, for one, am tired of being painted black just because of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch Overly tolerant lame ducks? WTFF? Ooookay, bucko. Just remember, you asked for this. Who the fuck died and appointed you moral authority of BDSM. Where the fuck do you get off laying your values and ethics on others against their will. What the fuck gave you the idea any of the slaves and/or women here need rescuing and where in the world does the ego come from to make you of all morons think you are just the fucking person to go about enforcing this? Last name Hasslehoff, perhaps? Got lifeguard syndrome. Maybe bought an old set of armor at a RenFest and now suffer from the delusion that you are really named Galahad? So lets start snipping: quote:
This sort of response is what I expected from what I consider the overly tolerant lame ducks What? That slaves are intelligent people, competent and capable of making their own decisions about what is good for them in their life? In thinking that slaves are, like all other people, responsible for their own well being and happiness? That they have the freedom and the agency to follow through on their decisions with activity? Holy fuck. E-goddamn-gads. I'm just an insane, talking nonsense, full on lunatic for having the brash presumption to think that people who are adults should be treated accordingly, not condescended too and treated like half baked 'tards that need some fucking Nanny to hold their hands and tell them what and is not right for them. I mean, fuck, how dare I? What a revolutionary fucking stance. quote:
My kink is not your kink Nope, it ain't. Because from here it looks as if your kink is being humiliated in public. If not, you have a strange way of showing it. Moreso, again, who the fuck am I to judge someone else's kinks. There's lots of shit that goes in the the kink and real world I find distasteful to downright reprehensible (Obese peeps in yoga pants, nasty cat piss perfume, vomit play, littles) but that's OK. I don't have to judge it just because it ain't what floats my boat. Instead I simply shrug my shoulders, accept that there are different strokes for different folks and that it takes all sorts to make the world go round and we are all better for it. Listen her, spanky-the one rule of BDSM is that there are no rules except that which works for you and yours. There is no right. There is no wrong. There is what works for you and yours Now obviously there are certain fetishes pretty much universally abhorred and hence illegal, unmentionables, murder, maiming, consent, that sort of thing and these are to be avoided, but within the standard boundaries, the only thing that matters is between the participants. If it works for them, great. More power to em, and if not, well, fuck, keep trying and they'll find something. but I don't interfere in the lives of others and I care not one whit for those who try to interfere in mine. quote:
If your kink is cooking and killing some slave in an oven well that's ok This is such an asinine statement I even made an internet law abut it. Called it Kana's law. Essentially it says that if I make a claim such as I did, within five posts some dickwad (See mirror for details) is going to come make some inane statement pretty much exactly as you did, running the wildest possible scenario to the nth potential conclusion. Then doubling it. Let me walk you through this slowly. Slaves have brains. I know this comes as a shock, but its true. They use said brains to make decisions with. Like most people, slaves are rational actors and tend to take the decision that is best for them, that maximizes their happiness utility. Slaves are not, I repeat not, mindless automatons. They are not morons. And no fucking slave, especially a female, spends more than about five minutes online without learning to fend off the sewage of the universe. These peeps ain't dumb. They have armor thicker than you can imagine. They've heard it all and learned how to defend themselves. They make a choice to trust someone based on things like similar values, ideas, morals, commonalities. The trust based on experience and personal judgement. What they don't do is knowingly go find John Wayne Gacy and turn themselves over to Him. Thus, your absurd response will almost never happen, simply because a slave isn't going to place themselves in a situation where it can. Because they ain't fucking suicidal. Now, can it happen? Sure, of course it can. But the same risk applies to anyone met in a bar or walking down the fucking street or sleeping in your fucking bed. quote:
Really? you honestly feel that way? I hope you've figured out the answer to this by now. quote:
Then perhaps you're what's wrong with this lifestyle and certainly not what's right. My slave thinks otherwise and so do I. Crazy maniac I am, I dare treat slaves as adults and not children that need their hands held while crossing the street. quote:
Perhaps you've been in it so long you've simply become jaded to what's acceptable and what's not. Or perhaps I've owned slaves, actually interacted with them and possess insight into how they think. Perhaps I'm in a ten year long term TPE and actually have some respect for what it takes to submit. Perhaps I've actually spent years talking to real live slaves and discovered that some people not only want or fantasize about brutal treatment but crave it and need it to find it their place and role in the world and without said treatment they slowly fray and fall to pieces. Perhaps I have empathy and understanding and over the years have learned to see the world somewhat through their eyes. Perhaps I've learned a smidgen of humility, at least enough to realize that My way ain't the only way and that, much harder lesson this, just because they ain't doing it my way don't make it wrong. quote:
Perhaps you should be locked up right along with him. For what? Disagreeing with your perspective? Oh fucking my. The thought police are here. I give you CS Lewis as a reply: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” I should also mention that the greatest tyrant is the well intentioned fool, for, being convinced of the absolute righteousness of their cause, they will stop at nothing to achieve it, even if that means trampling liberty and rights underfoot for the end surely will justify the means. quote:
This "lifestyle" has become far too tolerant its practitioners. Who the fuck said anything about any nonsensical lifestyle. I do what I do. I don't roll with no one except Me and mine. And again, who fucking appointed you 'lifestyle' judge, jury and executioner? quote:
So tolerant that we often protect those among us that are honestly sociopaths and psychotics masquerading as Dominants. We? We? Who the fuck is we? Listen buster brown, I can assure you, any club you in, I ain't. Fuck. We, my ass. Meanwhile, what part of BDSM being a microcosm of the real world don't you fucking comprehend? Sure there's socio and psychopaths doing BDSM. They are also Doctors, Lawyers, Politicians (Oh my yes), trashmen, what the fuck ever. quote:
Doing real harm to impressionable young subs. BOOM. Here it is. You knew it was coming. The old, "But what about the children?" When a debate is reduced to this, it's a sure 100% sign that the person are arguing from a morally bankrupt position. From a logic standpoint, it means I ain't got a leg to stand on and am resorting to the worst possible refuge, a fear based appeal to emotion. You know what? The children don't need protecting. They do fucking fine on their own. Fuck-I sentence you to listen to David Bowie's changes and watch the Breakfast Club 100 times in a row. quote:
All under the guise of consent. Yeah-because you know, informed consent is something no one should give without checking in with you first. You fucking fuck. How dare you be so insulting to s-types. How dare you treat them so poorly. How fucking dare you presume you know better than they what is good for them. Fuck. How dare you attempt to reduce them to objects incapable of self actualization? As they said to the senator, Sir, have you no shame? quote:
I say it's high time we turned them out and not give them safe haven any longer. And I utterly 1000% support your right to say so. In fact, I believe and support that as vehemently as I'm savaging the idiocy you post. You have a right say moronic shit and I have a right to call you on it. Don't like it. Tough titties. Live on the firing line of life then people gonna take shots. Take a risk and stick your neck out, best be sure of the ground you on first. And don't come crying for help, because I don't think it will be forthcoming. You've insulted the s-types and the sadists will like watching you squirm so I somehow don't see a whole lot of support coming your way. quote:
Because the longer we do give them safe haven then the more it will be a black eye on all of us. I, for one, am tired of being painted black just because of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. Others actions only reflect on me when I allow them to. Some idiot does somewhere you know what it has to do with me? Fucking nothing. The only one I see giving anyone a black eye here is you, and that came from punching yourself in the face in public. I ain't in a lifestyle. I ain't in a group. Not to mention, come the fuck on now. There are always going to be a certain % of people that see kinksters as weird and threatening because, well, people. That's what humans do. They fear the strange. They judge the different, they are threatened by the other. And that applies triply when it comes to sexual things. Besides which, where the fuck do you get the idea the OP is miserable. Sure doesn't sound that way to me. Most certainly didn't sound like anyone wanting rescuing. Freedom. Look it up. It's an amazing concept.
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