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Kana -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 2:47:13 PM)

I condone people having choice over what they do and the partners they do it with.

I know, I know-liberty, personal responsibility, self determination, free will, independence. Crazy absurd shit like that.

You seem to have interpreted my supporting their right to do what they like as long as all parties are of legal age, sound mind, and its consensual, with my approving of said acts, which is a vastly different thing and something you haven't bothered to ask once in all your blathering and assuming.

As for murderous intentions, yeah, I think you take things too literally. As mentioned, a little research shows similar profiles all over the net. If he was really killing people, he has to be the dumbest criminal of the year, a true Darwin Award nominee. Seeing how those profiles have been active for extended periods of time, I doubt that seriously.
Not to mention that the only corroborating witness sounds not just happy, but damned enthusiastic to be with him.

What part of shit talking don't you understand? What part of posting wank job fantasies don't you get? Is the idea too complicated for you? Is this your first go round on the net?

Onto your strawman and once again ad hominem (You obviously didn't take logic. Dude, bone up on that shit before arguing a point. Seriously. It helps. Look up logical fallacies on google. You'll be the better for it)

Now if a newbie comes to me and asks how to learn to be a dom, I'm going to steer them to do things safely. You know, like I think a responsible person should.
I tend to have this irrational idea that I am responsible for a slaves well being, that in taking ownership, I am also assuming vast responsibility and personal accountability.

But that's what works for me and mine.
Relationships and people aren't cookie cutter. Different strokes for different folks and all that. Meaning my way and my perspective aren't the right way, nor are they the wrong way. The are just what works for me. Accepting and understanding that is part of having empathy and tolerance.
Heck-it may even involve some humility.

There's lots of stuff that goes on in the 'community' I disagree with or find kinda creepy (Diaper play, some little's, lots of people that wear too little clothes, men in assless chaps, the guy at Crucible that walks around wanking, I could go on and on....). But that's OK. I don't have to like it or even approve of it.
But I need to accept that as freaky as I may see what they do, there's others that see what I do as the same.

I've given a real life example of that. One you just glossed over.

Returning from the extended tangent...

If that same newbie want's to find some wingnut that feels otherwise and follow them, well, that's on them. Their choice. Their responsibility. Their consequences to pay if things go sideways.
People have a right to be idiots They have a right to make mistakes. They have a right to fuck up. They have a right to be human with all quirks and pettiness and cruelties we have.
Again, just because I think someone should have a right to do something doesn't mean that I would do so or think its the smart or right thing to do. The same way that I think you are dead wrong on this but I 100% support your right to feel that way and say so.
Of course, I equally support my 100% right to disagree with you and mock the ridiculousness you post.

Questions:
-Do you think people should have the right to skydive? Base jump? What about those wingsuits?
-Do you watch the NFL? Do you think people should be legally allowed to play football considering the fact that research shows that 100% of NFL players have brain trauma from concussion syndrome? Should Roger Goodell go to prison for making $40 million a year off of players impairments and deaths?
-What about NASCAR? People die there on a quasi regular basis. Should the owners of race teams be charged with homicide if a driver of theirs dies?
-Should people be allowed to risk their lives in pursuit of pleasure? Should others be allowed to do things that help them risk their lives, like say take someone on their first base jump or fly an airplane that skydivers jump out of or run an extreme sports video company?

Or should grown people be able to make the risk reward judgements in their lives based on their individual needs and wants?






ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 3:48:57 PM)

Do you honestly think either he or she sound of sound mind?




Kana -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 4:01:13 PM)

Now how the hell would I know from a few lines of what I suspect is bravura and no matter what is, only seeing the thinnest of slices of what may actually be going on.

See, I don't rush to judge. This is the difference between you and me. Ive learned that fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
I make decisions based on actual support, like rational people do.
Not emotion.

(I also think that 99% of what I read on the net is BS so I take little of it at face value and the more out there it is, the less I believe it. It's called skepticism. It's an amazing concept. Try it someday. You may grow to like it. Besides which, hell. This is Collarspace. People been lying, exaggerating and posting wankjob fantasy profiles since day one. This cat ain't the first and he ain't the last. That this sort of stuff gets taken as anything but HNG nonsense amazes me. Like really, is it so shocking that people lie on their profiles?)

Care to answers the questions above?
Or hell, any of the questions I've posed?

Care to try and delineate the difference between the extreme athlete and the extreme maso? Why one is acceptable and the other is not?
Why is it acceptable to risk life and liberty in one instance but not the other?





ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 4:25:45 PM)

quote:

Care to answers the questions above?
Or hell, any of the questions I've posed?


Nope. It's much more satisfying to leave you wanting.




stef -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 4:35:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

quote:

Care to answers the questions above?
Or hell, any of the questions I've posed?


Nope. It's much more satisfying to leave you wanting.

I think the only thing he's wanting at this point is for you to stop being so dense.




ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 6:35:03 PM)

well stef, your opinion matters even less




stef -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 6:58:33 PM)

The only thing more pathetic than a Captain Saveaho is a clueless Captain Saveaho.




ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 7:36:56 PM)

yeah go pound sand stef




stef -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/23/2016 7:46:53 PM)

Go tilt at some more imaginary windmills, Quixote.




ResidentSadist -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/24/2016 8:07:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
.....(I also think that 99% of what I read on the net is BS so I take little of it at face value and the more out there it is, the less I believe it. It's called skepticism. It's an amazing concept. Try it someday. You may grow to like it. Besides which, hell. This is Collarspace. People been lying, exaggerating and posting wankjob fantasy profiles since day one. This cat ain't the first and he ain't the last. That this sort of stuff gets taken as anything but HNG nonsense amazes me. Like really, is it so shocking that people lie on their profiles?).........

If her profile pic looked like this, I might think she wasn't a wankjob. I can see the advert now, "come join me and my bone breaking Master... free plaster casting included with every session!"

[image]http://residentsadist.com/pics/brokenbones.jpg[/image]




Kana -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/24/2016 11:10:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

quote:

Care to answers the questions above?
Or hell, any of the questions I've posed?


Nope. It's much more satisfying to leave you wanting.


You ain't leaving Me wanting, troll.
You're showing how empty and vacuous your opinion is and what a pathetic creature you are.

Pshaw.
I wash My hands of you and your socks.
Done.



ETA-RS-If that was her profile pic, I would have been writing her!





angelikaJ -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/24/2016 1:02:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

Do you honestly think either he or she sound of sound mind?


But you claimed you didn't want to save her, you just wanted to have him locked up.

So in locking him up, you are saving him from herself?
That is contradictory to your claim.
Clearly you think your opinion is the right one and your concern is justified, but that does not alter the fact that you do believe someone should save her, despite what you said.

Personally, I don't think either of them exist as they are presented.
I think someone has a very active fantasy life and is using the profiles and posts to attract interest in said fantasy world.
Even negative attention is attention.

If you believe someone is in danger of harming him/herself or others then you have every right to report it to "the authorities".





ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/24/2016 1:21:06 PM)

No angelika3 I believe him and those like him to be a blight on the BDSM community at large. So remove him from the community is my answer. Now if in so doing that saves her well then it's simply a by product of the action. But saving her isn't my goal. Removing him is




ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/24/2016 1:25:54 PM)

quote:

You ain't leaving Me wanting, troll.
You're showing how empty and vacuous your opinion is and what a pathetic creature you are.


awwww now look who resorts to name calling when him doesn't get his way. You even capped your M in Me showing me what a true dominant you really are. A real Master. *chuckles .. You're really used to your style of goading working for you aren't you. Whereas I loathe bullies and would rather deny them than let them have what they want. Have a nice day




Kana -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/25/2016 4:21:42 AM)

Of course you are a troll.
You admitted that you are posting to elicit reaction and not to add a single thing to the thread

Truth is always a defense against slander and it clearly reveals the lies you spread
Troll, vacuous, empty, pathetic-they all fit and the best thing is that you've amply demonstrated this continuously in this thread

You claim to loathe bullies but initiate attacks on others, make ad hominem fallacies galore and try to lay your judgment and limited mentality on people, real or fake, you neither know nor have any clue about and most certainly don't want your help.

You can't answer questions because you have nothing to stand on.
You can't make anything but a childish emotional response when confronted with examples.
You are against liberty, self determination, freedom, personal responsibility, autonomy, self empowerment.
You post out of idiocy and close-mindedness and can't and are unable to justify your position at all.
You are a misogynist pig that thinks "impressionable young subs" need to be saved from themselves...because, duh, obviously they can't be trusted to do their thinking for themselves.
You, the lying hypocrite that hates bullies, yeah, you respond to others that disagree with your very limited perspective by suggesting that they should be be sent to jail and raped by bubba for the awful hate crime of seeing things differently than you.
Oh yeah, and lets not forget that you started the mudslinging in response to a very broad and general post I made. In fact, you started by suggesting that perhaps I should be sent to prison for my differing POV. Further, in almost every response, to others as well as me (See stef above for example) you have resorted to name calling and mud slinging as a first option...which again shows what little character you possess as well as what an imbecilic stance you've taken and how little you can support it.

But hey, you are a moral guy and stand on the ethical high ground, right?
We should all listen to you because righteousness is on your side and you are obviously such a moral exemplar.

Cripes.
Deluded much?

Troll.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

CS Lewis




ChrchofDrk -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/25/2016 5:00:13 AM)

Feel better now? You're so fulla shit in your assumptions of me Kana it's silly. But hey, you think whatever you like and honestly, go fuck yourself. Thanks (I'm sure you'll read all sorts of shit into that too, you're that good at it ... I fear you're the one living in denial)




Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/26/2016 7:55:18 AM)

Me and my big fat opinion.
First, I think it's a made up fantasy deal. ( I even find the fantasy disturbing)
I question anyone who would defend such a scene.
It's easy for me, this one. This OP post.

Maso- very mentally disturbed who would need help.
Master sadist- sick predator to rot. Jailbait. No mercy.

Zero tolerance for it. ZERO.
No gray area at all.




bogy1 -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (1/30/2016 7:24:54 PM)

wow looks like I walked into a big flame war [8|]




JanahX -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (2/3/2016 1:18:41 PM)

I don't doubt the O.P.s claims at all. All you have to do is go to fetlife and there are tons of pics of masochists who literally look like hamburger meat before cooking after going a round with the sadist theye been with.

No amount of pain, blood, broken bones, degradation, -whatever- is enough. That's their deal.
Now if someone is hoping for a death wish through the hands of another - that's strictly up to the person that's going to that wants to bring on. What goes on behind closed doors most likely will happen anyways - (you can't save the world).
Also that there are serious consequences to shit like that. If you don't know that by a certain age,,, homicide/murder... you might be living on another planet.




Raevanlittleoak -> RE: why cant i find him some more slaves?! (2/21/2016 4:38:44 PM)

*** Is disappointed that I still have popcorn***

***was a great Cockfight over socks***

***Even better is that the socks won, not the Cocks... because, if the Cocks won, they wouldn't have taken the sock bait***

I have to say, other than the strong appearance that the OP and their "BAMF" Dom are fictitious as hell:

I agree and disagree with both ChrchofDark and Kana.

Both made points, though I doubt that either of them would see it that way.

Predators in the community are everyone's problem as soon as they make themselves that - by getting in trouble with the law or opening their fool mouths in public forums claiming to speak for the rest of us.

And, people whether they are s or D, have the right to make choices and then suffer or enjoy the consequences. It isn't our job to stick our fat noses in and clip their options down to what pleases us.


This whole discussion could have actually be fruitful and useful to the community, instead it ended up being a pit fight. I am just glad I didn't have any money on the outcome.




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