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A man wishes not to submit {although he can and has}bu... - 1/11/2016 10:09:58 PM   
Enigma2yu


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How do you see that?

I will rewrite this question in a way to try and relay what I am asking as what I previously wrote as it confused some.



A man who is submissive has shared he would like a woman to dominate him in such a way that is
her being able to do so by taking control of him mentally and having a "take charge way " as to allow him to submit
I am not saying of these dominant women when a sub writes them, or they talk on the phone, or first meet just right off the bat tell a man to "be" or submit .

I "get that" of what he is saying of me being naturally dominant to his submission rather then him just submitting and I have had relationships like that in the past Actually stumbled across them and men who WANTED to be submissive and me dominant them very very early on in my adult life.
I am asking more then I have what I believe to be a dominant take charge personality but "how to set about " naturally just dominating someone
If anyone follows this and can chime in?

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/11/2016 10:17:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't the foggiest idea of what you are asking. Is this about domination but not submission or is this about him wanting to be a woman or what? Believe me when I say, it did not come across as you wanted, because I have no clue.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 2:10:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree. I'm not clear on what you're asking.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 2:26:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		In case you are asking about the guys who want to be forced to submit, the kind of "fight for my submission" kind of stuff, not really into it, the whole "overpowering" thing doesn't work for me, I often think the guys have more of a fighting fetish

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 4:15:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		It sounds like he envisions one dynamic "feel" and you envision another. He wants to have you assert yourself over his resistance, and you don't want a fight.

This can work, but it requires a lot from both parties. My sub and I had this initially. I became sterner, and she learned not to say No unless she really meant it.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 2:08:15 PM   
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In my my personal experience, my natural longing to submit to a Woman...
It can only really happen, when Her willpower to be in charge & the one in control,,,
are stronger than my natural resistance to submit and accept all HER "assertive" Powers...

And in Her inner qualities & natural ability to take charge...
both Her age or physical beauty becomes totally irrelevant.

I am a passionate person and definitely not a doormat...

This was just a little try to explain my need to be Dominated (owned) by Her...
- In order to really bring out my true inner (and well hidden) submissive side...


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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 2:21:50 PM   
CodeOfSilence


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"You can please me this way" instead of "How can I please you (xyz/favourite adjective)"

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RE: A man wishes not to submit but be dominated by a w... - 1/12/2016 2:29:44 PM   
DaveLuke


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Status: offline 		well a girl that takes your submission by force, is a hot kinky fantasy, but ultimately in reality that would not be cool.

I mean I know many people use the term slave as a kink term but actual slavery is not something I or anyone sane should aspire to.

Obviously as a submissive I like a girl that can take charge be assertive, and naturally dominant. However one that forces submission is not good. been trapped is never good and having the freedom to walk away if you are unhappy is essential.

besides its not really been submissive if it has to be forced.

now if i was with a girl who was able to psychically overpower me and that was part of the role play they liked I could go along with that but there would need to be safety words etc.


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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/12/2016 2:45:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Enigma2yu
How do you see that?

I will rewrite this question in a way to try and relay what I am asking as what I previously wrote as it confused some.

A man who is submissive has shared he would like a woman to dominate him in such a way that is
her being able to do so by taking control of him mentally and having a "take charge way " as to allow him to submit
I am not saying of these dominant women when a sub writes them, or they talk on the phone, or first meet just right off the bat tell a man to "be" or submit .

I "get that" of what he is saying of me being naturally dominant to his submission rather then him just submitting and I have had relationships like that in the past Actually stumbled across them and men who WANTED to be submissive and me dominant them very very early on in my adult life.
I am asking more then I have what I believe to be a dominant take charge personality but "how to set about " naturally just dominating someone
If anyone follows this and can chime in?

Um, I can't change the title of your thread (posters can edit the Subject line, but they're not supposed to), but if I could it would read:

RE: Man wants to be my bitch.* [Subtitled]: * Or, He-bitches got manliness issues.

. . . which means he wants to play domination/[bratty] submission head games so he can disavow it later when it suits him.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/15/2016 11:19:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		People who want resistance play need to talk out with their partner when it's okay and when it isn't.

Nobody should be expected to have to engage in this just to get a second cup of coffee.

Brattiness, resistance - they can all be fun if you're both on board with it. In order for that to happen though there needs to be clear communication so if someone isn't in the mood, the other person accepts a 'not now'. Demanding mind reading is never appropriate.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/16/2016 9:23:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think you really can deliberately make that connection happen. For me, whether I can have a D/s dynamic with someone depends on whether I feel/react to them in a submissive or dominant way. Most of my relationships have been egalitarian kinky, but D/s is amazing when we do have that chemistry with each other.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/21/2016 8:32:17 AM   
MistressRage


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Status: offline 		@OP I understand your question. It sounds to me like he has met a lot of females who are only behaving as if they are dominant because he wants it. So, it seems to me, that what he is looking for is someone who is naturally dominant, rather than acting as such for his benefit.

With that being said, my reply to him would be this: I am the Domme, and you have zero say in how any of this plays out. I am who I am and you either like it or you don't. Personally I could care less either way. I will take control at whatever rate I wish to take it, by the methods of my own choosing, and I don't really care what you think of that. Your purpose is to serve me as I see fit, in the manner I see fit, at the time I see fit, and by the means I see fit for you to do so. That is how things are, and how they always will be.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/21/2016 10:59:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Enigma2yu

I am asking more then I have what I believe to be a dominant take charge personality but "how to set about " naturally just dominating someone



I say you just act like your genuine self and see if the energy between you works. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Even if a submissive wants a woman with "dominant take charge personality," that doesn't mean he's going to connect with every woman who has a "dominant take charge personality."

So don't worry about now to naturally dominant someone. Just ask natural

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 1/22/2016 10:38:22 AM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		Clueless too or perhaps I haven't had enough cheap bed-wetting Chardonnay yet.

In summary submissive man wants women to take charge of him. I think I have the gist
reads some replies - none of the wiser.
i picked up on many possible elements feisty submissive - someone already said that

No-one is 100% D or s, just somewhere in-between - there are probably a couple of statistical anomalies who are, but I will wager them raving basket cases. But many pretend to be, especially those jolly fabulous bad stereotypes I would tar and feather if I had my way.
Topping from the bottom a bland generic statement – but often true in some form or another and the feisty bit is applicable here too – you can quench their thirst with a brutal mace-ing or oiling up and wrestling....but that's usually exactly what they want so best teach them knitting.

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RE: A man wishes not to submit {although he can and ha... - 2/4/2016 4:43:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Enigma2yu



How do you see that?

I will rewrite this question in a way to try and relay what I am asking as what I previously wrote as it confused some.



A man who is submissive has shared he would like a woman to dominate him in such a way that is
her being able to do so by taking control of him mentally and having a "take charge way " as to allow him to submit
I am not saying of these dominant women when a sub writes them, or they talk on the phone, or first meet just right off the bat tell a man to "be" or submit .

I "get that" of what he is saying of me being naturally dominant to his submission rather then him just submitting and I have had relationships like that in the past Actually stumbled across them and men who WANTED to be submissive and me dominant them very very early on in my adult life.
I am asking more then I have what I believe to be a dominant take charge personality but "how to set about " naturally just dominating someone
If anyone follows this and can chime in?


I'm sorry....were you speaking words?

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