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UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 3:59:59 PM   
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35306473

The US is looking to the United Nations for help in dealing with thousands of migrants fleeing to the US to escape violence in Central America.

The hope is that the UN High Commissioner for Refugees will set up processing centres for people to apply for resettlement in the region.

The centres would be located in several Central American countries.


This idea I like.

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http://www.unhcr.org/558a639f9.html

US Contribution $1,218,043,771


I think it is much cheaper than what we are doing now and will hopefully reduce the number of illegal's entering the country. It also puts the onus on the UN.

What astounds me is the odd number of dollars contributed. Oh well, we are dealing with government.
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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 4:39:49 PM   
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35306473
The US is looking to the United Nations for help in dealing with thousands of migrants fleeing to the US to escape violence in Central America.
The hope is that the UN High Commissioner for Refugees will set up processing centres for people to apply for resettlement in the region.
The centres would be located in several Central American countries.

This idea I like.
quote:

http://www.unhcr.org/558a639f9.html
US Contribution $1,218,043,771

I think it is much cheaper than what we are doing now and will hopefully reduce the number of illegal's entering the country. It also puts the onus on the UN.
What astounds me is the odd number of dollars contributed. Oh well, we are dealing with government.


"Refugee camps?" I thought they were called "sanctuary cities?"


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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 4:46:11 PM   
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LOL DS Maybe the UN can run them too LOL

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 4:57:18 PM   
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LOL DS Maybe the UN can run them too LOL


Maybe they already do...




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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 5:04:32 PM   
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United Nations Command for Law and Enforcement (UNCLE) LOL

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 5:50:09 PM   
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[sarcasm]
Yes, because the United States of America is not really the "...land of the home, the free and the brave." It has a slave collar around its metaphorical neck. Bought and paid by mega-corporations. Many of them without even an ounce of loyalty. We should scrap off that bullshit on the State of Liberty that states:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "

Yes, we 'really' have no place to put those fleeing from tyranny and wish to live as a free people. I heard that Montana and Nebraska just reached the 800,000,000 population level. Texas has so many people, they all had to go on an exercise plan to slim down; fat people were pushing other people out of the state of 57 billion!

Since after all, we are a Christian Nation. We really can not accept poor, hungry, defenseless people whom are not the same skin color as our 'lord and savior': white.
[/sarcasm]

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 6:11:58 PM   
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Besides Joe. Big business likes all those working poor. Cuts manufacturing costs. You can pay them minimum wage and they think they are getting rich. Takes down everyone elses scale. They can support the rest of us thru welfare (their tax burden) while we sit on the the easy chair drinking colorado coolade and eating steaks. LOL

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/13/2016 7:33:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

[sarcasm]
Yes, because the United States of America is not really the "...land of the home, the free and the brave." It has a slave collar around its metaphorical neck. Bought and paid by mega-corporations. Many of them without even an ounce of loyalty. We should scrap off that bullshit on the State of Liberty that states:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "

Yes, we 'really' have no place to put those fleeing from tyranny and wish to live as a free people. I heard that Montana and Nebraska just reached the 800,000,000 population level. Texas has so many people, they all had to go on an exercise plan to slim down; fat people were pushing other people out of the state of 57 billion!

Since after all, we are a Christian Nation. We really can not accept poor, hungry, defenseless people whom are not the same skin color as our 'lord and savior': white.
[/sarcasm]


Lets see...

Syrians speak .. yanoo.. arabic. A language in which they can freely converse in something like 30 countries.
Syria - unlike most arab countries, teaches science & technology in arabic - reducing their exposure to English.
Since syria was a french protectorate - the most common non region language - is french.
90% of syrians are muslim. They understand laws and life in an arabic world.
Only 79% of syrians - (lower of course among women) are literate.
30% of syrians complete an ISCED 5 level of classification.
It costs $17,000 dollars more to support a refugee here in the united states than it does in a refuge camp in theatre.

So, other than being democrat voters and terrorists (oops, same thing) why exactly is bringing them here a good idea?

In the last few weeks, germany has capped, immigrants, sweden and austria has ended immigrants. Hungary has ended immigration.
Denmark doesn't allow it.

Since all these countries are saying - no way - yet somehow you think we should be accepting them.. .why?




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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/14/2016 4:08:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
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ORIGINAL: joether
[sarcasm]
Yes, because the United States of America is not really the "...land of the home, the free and the brave." It has a slave collar around its metaphorical neck. Bought and paid by mega-corporations. Many of them without even an ounce of loyalty. We should scrap off that bullshit on the State of Liberty that states:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "

Yes, we 'really' have no place to put those fleeing from tyranny and wish to live as a free people. I heard that Montana and Nebraska just reached the 800,000,000 population level. Texas has so many people, they all had to go on an exercise plan to slim down; fat people were pushing other people out of the state of 57 billion!

Since after all, we are a Christian Nation. We really can not accept poor, hungry, defenseless people whom are not the same skin color as our 'lord and savior': white.
[/sarcasm]


Lets see...

Syrians speak .. yanoo.. arabic. A language in which they can freely converse in something like 30 countries.
Syria - unlike most arab countries, teaches science & technology in arabic - reducing their exposure to English.
Since syria was a french protectorate - the most common non region language - is french.
90% of syrians are muslim. They understand laws and life in an arabic world.
Only 79% of syrians - (lower of course among women) are literate.
30% of syrians complete an ISCED 5 level of classification.
It costs $17,000 dollars more to support a refugee here in the united states than it does in a refuge camp in theatre.


Your stating that individuals whom have learned science and arabic (both are language concepts to understand reality), are unable to learn English? News Flash: Syrians are about to learn English. In fact, many of them pick up the language. Since most of the scientific world speaks English.

In this country, we would provide systems to help integrate them into society. If they need courses in English, that will be provided. People like you, will try all sorts of excuses, at the same time lying to the rest of us that your American. A real American (and Christian) would welcome these refugees to our land. We get them situated some place safe, and start the process of introducing Syrians into the 'American Melting Pot'.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
So, other than being democrat voters and terrorists (oops, same thing) why exactly is bringing them here a good idea?


Look at that racism.....

You assume that since they are Syrian, they must be terrorists. That's like saying anyone that supports Donald Trump is a Nazi. Maybe we should contact 'The Pew' and tell them about all the new Nazis and to update their records!

Bringing them here shows we are a good nation. We understand that people that wish to be free should not live under tyranny. Many of them will integrate into our society with little to no problems. After a few years, would any of us be able to distinguish them from those that had legally immigrated here years before?

Or are you against people living in a nation created by the concept of Liberty?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
In the last few weeks, germany has capped, immigrants, sweden and austria has ended immigrants. Hungary has ended immigration.

Denmark doesn't allow it.

Since all these countries are saying - no way - yet somehow you think we should be accepting them.. .why?


We are the United States of America! We excel at doing things others are limited. We have space, we have resources, and a good nation. The grand majority of these people just want a place to settle into, raise their families in peace and most likely become a citizen of a good nation.

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/14/2016 7:40:36 PM   
Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Lets see...

Syrians speak .. yanoo.. arabic. A language in which they can freely converse in something like 30 countries.
Syria - unlike most arab countries, teaches science & technology in arabic - reducing their exposure to English.
Since syria was a french protectorate - the most common non region language - is french.
90% of syrians are muslim. They understand laws and life in an arabic world.
Only 79% of syrians - (lower of course among women) are literate.
30% of syrians complete an ISCED 5 level of classification.
It costs $17,000 dollars more to support a refugee here in the united states than it does in a refuge camp in theatre.


Your stating that individuals whom have learned science and arabic (both are language concepts to understand reality), are unable to learn English?

No, if I meant that I'd have said that. What I said was quite clear - they have less English exposure in STEM because they teach science in Arabic.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
So, other than being democrat voters and terrorists (oops, same thing) why exactly is bringing them here a good idea?


Look at that racism.....



Newsflash: you really ought to learn the meaning of the word racist - since you bandy it about so freely.
Calling democrats terrorists isn't racist

I should know better than to bother discussing matters with you. As momma used to say...
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"Never argue with a pig. You'll both get dirty - but the pig enjoys it..."
Wise beyond her years my momma.

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You assume that since they are Syrian, they must be terrorists. That's like saying anyone that supports Donald Trump is a Nazi. Maybe we should contact 'The Pew' and tell them about all the new Nazis and to update their records!


No, I assume because sweden has arrested 302 terrorists among its refugees, germany has arrested more than 100 terrorirst among its refugees and we have arrested 132 terrorists amongst our refugees that there are terrorists embedded in the refugee population.

Like ISIS said it was going to do.

As for calling trump a Nazi.. I seem to remember someone doing just that....

Oh yea.. that was you.
Here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4863064/mpage_1/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4863205
and here:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4863064/mpage_2/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4868100
here:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4862434/mpage_3/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4863017
and here:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4862434/mpage_3/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4863015

here:http://www.collarchat.com/m_4862434/mpage_3/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4863015

and here, of course you called all conservatives Nazi's.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4862434/mpage_3/key_trump%252Cnazi/tm.htm#4863015

and here:https://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2015/02/20/nazis-in-the-pantry/
and here:https://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/the-nazi-gun-control-meme-is-a-lie/
and here: http://badtux.net/2005/10/i-got-neo-nazis.html

And frankly 332 further cites that I am way to lazy to bother tracking down and posting.

By which it is quite clear... you failed kindergarden and 'plays nice with others'.

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Bringing them here shows we are a good nation.


And setting up refugee camps and feeding them, giving them food, water, clothing, safety says we're a good nation. And want to spend money wisely. And want to safeguard our citizens against mulsim terrorists.

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Many of them will integrate into our society with little to no problems. After a few years, would any of us be able to distinguish them from those that had legally immigrated here years before?


Oh you mean the US Somali refugees that according to the FBI are radicallizing faster than at any point in history? And in fact are radicalizing faster here - than in Somalia?

And you're right .. many of them will integrate into our society with little to no problems. .. of course then theres.. Paris, Cologne, Berlin, London.. to show what happens when they don't.

And here is a cbs report where, with more than 1000 open terrorist surveillance probles, the FBI is having trouble keeping track of just homegrown terrorists
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/fbi-strained-by-spike-in-homegrown-terror-cases/

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
In the last few weeks, germany has capped, immigrants, sweden and austria has ended immigrants. Hungary has ended immigration.

Denmark doesn't allow it.

Since all these countries are saying - no way - yet somehow you think we should be accepting them.. .why?


We are the United States of America! We excel at doing things others are limited.


Does this sound like we excel: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/12somalis.html

Got any studies that indicate we integrate muslims better than say.. Turkey? Cuz .. I'm not aware of any such study.

quote:


In announcing the arrests of six Minnesota men charged with making repeated attempts to join the ISIS jihadist army in Syria, U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger made a stunning admission Monday.
“To be clear, we have a terror-recruitment problem in Minnesota,” he said at a press conference Monday in Minneapolis. “This case demonstrates how difficult it is to put an end to recruiting here.”



Bottom line: Whats in it for us?

We can take refugees from any place in the world - and in fact syrian refugees will displace other refugees under the protocol adopted.

We don't allow economic refugees - thats US Law.

Why is a syrian refugee better than a guatemalan refugee that has proven in danger of being killed by m-19? Remember that all refugees in this class are supposed to be in fear of their life fearing political or religious persecution.

Why are Syrian better than people that aided US troops in Iraq?

Why are the Yazkikis unrepresented, and syrian Christians - why do we are an earmark for syrian Muslims?

And since they do represent a threat - why is it better for the US to let them in - than to set up a camp in their own country. Or Turkey. Or Saudi Arabia.




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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/15/2016 1:48:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
United Nations Command for Law and Enforcement (UNCLE) LOL


UNCLE Sam?!?


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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/15/2016 4:11:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

[sarcasm]
Yes, because the United States of America is not really the "...land of the home, the free and the brave." It has a slave collar around its metaphorical neck. Bought and paid by mega-corporations. Many of them without even an ounce of loyalty. We should scrap off that bullshit on the State of Liberty that states:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "

Yes, we 'really' have no place to put those fleeing from tyranny and wish to live as a free people. I heard that Montana and Nebraska just reached the 800,000,000 population level. Texas has so many people, they all had to go on an exercise plan to slim down; fat people were pushing other people out of the state of 57 billion!

Since after all, we are a Christian Nation. We really can not accept poor, hungry, defenseless people whom are not the same skin color as our 'lord and savior': white.
[/sarcasm]



I would like to note that the twit just quoted from a Zionist's writing on a symbol of international republicanism. Heh.

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/15/2016 4:20:20 PM   
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Bottom line: Whats in it for us?


Seems pretty christian to me. And certainly par for the course for you.

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/15/2016 4:27:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
United Nations Command for Law and Enforcement (UNCLE) LOL


UNCLE Sam?!?


LOL I had a Man from UNCLE moment LOL

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/16/2016 12:40:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Bottom line: Whats in it for us?


Seems pretty christian to me. And certainly par for the course for you.


Personal slurs are not a convincing argument on why we should be in favor of a policy.

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RE: UN Refugee Camps Proposed in Latin America - 1/16/2016 3:35:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Bottom line: Whats in it for us?


Seems pretty christian to me. And certainly par for the course for you.


Personal slurs are not a convincing argument on why we should be in favor of a policy.

Perhaps if you were to get a grown up to explane what a personal slur is you would not post such foolishness.

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