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Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 8:32:43 AM   
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One would have hoped that after the latest Islamic terror attack in America by the husband-wife team of Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, U.S. Islamic organizations would recognize it was time to condemn "jihad" itself and to stop playing the victim card.

However, that was too much to ask.

Last year, in the face of growing ISIS-inspired jihadi terrorism, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) along with other American Islamic organizations such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), formed the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations (USCMO) that hosted a National Muslim Leadership Summit on Sunday in Washington, D.C.

ICNA is a conservative Islamic group formed in 1968 by Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi followers of the Jamaat-e-Islami in North America. Their stated goal is "to seek the pleasure of Allah "¦ (for the) establishment of the Islamic system of life as spelled out in the Qur'an and the Sunnah (sayings) of Muhammad."

ICNA states in its 2010 members' handbook, "Wherever the Islamic movement succeeds to establish true Islamic society, they will form coalition and alliances. This will lead to the unity of the Ummah (Muslim nation) and towards the establishment of the Khilafah (the Caliphate)."

Predictably, ICNA and CAIR did not invite secular or liberal Muslim American groups who are critical of the doctrine of armed jihad and Islamic Shariah as a source of public law.

Reacting to the formation of the USCMO, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, an ex-U.S. Navy officer who founded and heads the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, told Fox News:

"CAIR may condemn the acts and means of radical violent Islamists, but no one should be fooled for a moment that CAIR's singular fixation (is) on stoking the flames and raising funds off the exaggerated narrative that Muslims are under siege by 'bigoted Americans' "¦ They are feeding the global movement against America."

(CAIR says its "formula on terrorism is simple and comprehensive: CAIR condemns terrorism whenever it happens, whoever commits it" and is a "natural enemy of violent extremists.")

After the two-day USCMO session, the coalition promised "to combat all forms of violent extremism in the homeland," noting Muslims are the major victims of terrorist groups like ISIS and frequent victims of Islamophobia.

But it did not renounce the doctrine of armed jihad that feeds Islamic terrorism nor call for taking politics out of American mosques.

Instead, USCMO flexed its electoral muscle, deciding to conduct "a drive to register one million voters prior to the 2016 presidential election."

There was no call to cleanse the American Muslim house of all jihadi literature.

The problem is the Islamist victimhood agenda works well among guilt-ridden liberal Americans who are quick to buy into the propaganda of Islamophobia.

Indeed, two Muslim women recently took to the Washington Post to protest the bizarre infatuation U.S. liberals have developed towards the symbols of Islamism.

As Asra Nomani and Hala Arafa wrote: "Americans are getting duped by the agenda of Muslims who argue that a woman's honour lies in her 'chastity' and unwittingly pushing a platform to put a hijab on every woman. Please do this instead: Do not wear a headscarf in 'solidarity' with the ideology that most silences us, equating our bodies with 'honour.. Stand with us instead ... against the ideology of Islamism that demands we cover our hair."

But is anyone listening to the voices of reason among North American Muslims?


http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/12/22/terror-the-problem-not-islamophobia

Not my words but great article! Hey I am praising an article written by a Muslim.

Incase people say I discriminate this dude because of his Muslim name. And I did immediately think his Muslim because of his name, but I double checked to make sure I am right.

Here is his story: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/interviews/Tarek-Fatah-India-is-the-only-country-where-Muslims-exert-influence-without-fear/articleshow/19619612.cms

Are you a self-hating Muslim?


No, but if there is something wrong that the Muslims do, why would I be constrained in telling them? Do you think the track record of Muslim leadership is anything to be proud of? Should I be proud of what happened at Jamia? Should I be proud of what's happening with the Syrians? Should I be proud of the Saudis? Tell me who to be proud of? What I am saying is that there is a scarcity of dignified, secular, liberal Muslims who are willing to be honest. If my honesty leads me to be accused of being an Uncle Tom or a self-hating Muslim, I am quite comfortable with that.


My religion commands me to speak the truth and respect that truth even if it hurts you or your family and Quran is specific on that. If that is my fate, what would be my interest? My interest is the betterment of the Muslim people. I like to see them as philosophers, car drivers, sculptors, and dancers and musicians, who the Muslims were during the era of rationalist movement in Baghdad.


He is really truly a rare Muslim. If most Muslims speak like this, and just admit the problems their religion created, I would have more respect for them. This guy is a good Muslim in my books!

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 8:43:48 AM   
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I wouldn't worry too much about muzzie terror attacks. They've got a wee way to go before they even get close to the ziomerikan murder toll.



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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 10:31:47 AM   
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I wouldn't worry too much about muzzie terror attacks. They've got a wee way to go before they even get close to the ziomerikan murder toll.



Right just think how much better off the world would be if the U S just sank into the ocean.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 3:30:50 PM   
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Probably would be.

T^T

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 5:15:42 PM   
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Probably would be.

T^T

Hey, wait just a minute...I don't want to drown. I have many problems with the US govt. in general and some of it policies in specific, but national suicide isn't a fix.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/18/2016 5:25:37 PM   
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Right just think how much better off the world would be if the U S just sank into the ocean.


How about instead of sinking into the ocean the punkassmotherfuckers who tarnish our immage by starting wars of agrandisement were put on trial for their crimes.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/19/2016 11:22:17 AM   
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Right just think how much better off the world would be if the U S just sank into the ocean.


How about instead of sinking into the ocean the punkassmotherfuckers who tarnish our immage by starting wars of agrandisement were put on trial for their crimes.


The Republican War Party candidates are fear mongering the public for their own selfish election goals. It amazes me that Americans are afraid of 30,000 idiots riding around with guns in pick up trucks. To be clear, I mean ISIS, not Idaho.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/19/2016 11:31:28 AM   
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yeh and it goes unnoticed that the reprobates and democrooks take turns. One party creates the bills the other signs it into law.

I have to laugh that people were screaming for bipartisan cooperation and they got it! - dicktatership.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/20/2016 2:54:49 PM   
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Deport the missy wussies and keep the civilised nation safe from lone Wolf and small group random attacks from cretins with middle ages beliefs and customs 1000 years behind us. Screw Allah the God of the lunnies.

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/21/2016 9:13:26 AM   
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Deport the missy wussies and keep the civilised nation safe from lone Wolf and small group random attacks from cretins with middle ages beliefs and customs 1000 years behind us. Screw Allah the God of the lunnies.


1000 year old traditions like male superiority or patriarchy? Like xenophobia and racial slavery? You mean like beating the females you have control over to assert your will? You know, you rednecks have a lot more in common with Islamic extremists than you know. Even the concept of needing to defend yourself when aggressed

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RE: Terror the problem, Not Islamphobia - 1/21/2016 5:18:51 PM   
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Deport the missy wussies and keep the civilised nation safe from lone Wolf and small group random attacks from cretins with middle ages beliefs and customs 1000 years behind us. Screw Allah the God of the lunnies.

1000 year old traditions like male superiority or patriarchy? Like xenophobia and racial slavery? You mean like beating the females you have control over to assert your will? You know, you rednecks have a lot more in common with Islamic extremists than you know. Even the concept of needing to defend yourself when aggressed

Bait <<< Fish

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