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jlf1961 -> Women (1/20/2016 11:49:00 PM)

In response to the "Men" thread....

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be out in a minute" you can figure on 20, and if they say "Give me a few" you might as well sit and watch the replay of a football game.

2) Lack of comprehension for the physics property of 'stored energy' and 'gravity,' i.e the toilet seat, if it is up, tap it and it returns to the down position with zero effort

3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.

4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of women that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater.

5) Strange fascination with owning as many pairs of shoes as financially viable.

6) They use up all their closet space and appropriate everyone else's

7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a dishwasher can cut grease off dishes etc, it will work perfectly well on engine parts.

8) what the hell is wrong with gutting fish in the kitchen sink?

9) inability to understand that if a suitcase is 2 cubic feet in volume, you cannot get 9 cubic feet of clothing in it.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: Women (1/20/2016 11:59:29 PM)

By the gods Jeff, the women you know/knew were extremely punctual.........................The best one I knew was when I lived out in the west of Queensland and a friend of my ex-wife turned up 5 hours late for her son's graduation and then wondered why everybody had left !!! Although my ex would play her on a break at times too. If she said she would be ready in a couple of minutes, I knew I could begin War and Peace and get a good way into it !!!



Greta75 -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 12:22:35 AM)

1) I agree. I have zero concept of time. Guys who knows me, know that I am never on time. My FB of 3 years, pretty much know, I am always 1 hour late or less from the time he gives me. My time management sucks! But fortunately, his always very patient and is used to me.

Recently at my Europe trip, I was just 15mins late coming back, and I got jumped at terribly ha. But on my first date with him, I was half an hour late and he was fine. I guess it depends on what his doing. I think the problem is coming back to a hotel room in a foreign country, finding me missing in action and uncontactable made him panic, especially when his last message from me is that I will be there half an hour earlier har har. If he was just at home waiting for me, I could be as late as I want.

But I think it has more to do with our culture too. Over here, even meeting with friends and stuffs, gatherings and stuffs, people often arrive 1 hour late. There is no sense of punctuality most of the time.

And I just have under-estimation of time, most of the time, of how long it will take to do anything. It's my defect and I think it's impossible for me to be with a man who is a stickler to punctuality. He would keep feeling insulted and getting angry at me. It would probably go pretty south quick.

2) I never have issues with toilet seats. Never ever complained about it. And to be honest, I think this is a Caucasian women thingy, because it's never an issue in Asia. Perhaps because alot of women prefer to squat than sit.

3) If past arguments were brought up, it certainly has linkage to current conflict. The man just doesn't get it.

4) That's why we have instant water heater, so no trouble with no hot water. I always let the gentleman take the shower first. Because he would be 5 minutes, and I need 1 hour to shower. When it comes to toilets, I grew up with 2 brothers, and I am used to letting all the men use the toilet first and I will wait to use it last, as I will need my 1 hour in it.

5,6) Shoes and Clothes is always endless. What can I say? We just need variety and choices! The guy does not, so it's okay if they get 1/10 of wardrobe space and I get 9/10. They don't need the wardrobe space anyway! It's a complimentary situation :)! That's why I don't date metrosexuals, they would compete with me for wardrobe space!

7) I wouldn't argue with a man anything to do about what works on an engine. I know shit about it.

8) Absolutely nothing. Women do it here ALL the time! The things we gut in a sink ha!

9) My recent trip, my FB was like laughing at me, and telling me that i will never be able to close my suitcase. He sits there smirking thinking I am being stupid and it's impossible. I prove to him that it IS possible! I closed my suitcase with absolutely zero problems. And then later he said there is no way the airline is gonna allow me with so many bags. I had 5 bags! I said I was gonna check in 2 and carry 3 on board. No problems! He was like totally suggesting I throw away some clothes! The horrors!



Dvr22999874 -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 12:57:29 AM)

I had a g/f some time ago who always turned up an hour late. I took that twice and then after that, I would wait 20 minutes and I would leave. she genuinely couldn't understand why, so I made another (dinner) date and again she turned up late. I smiled and was very pleasant and we ordered, then after a few minutes I excused myself and said I had to go to the toilet. I made a detour through the kitchen ( I knew the chefs) and went to the pub. That was basically the last time she ever spoke to me except to call me names. I did hear that she was always punctual for dates after that though



Greta75 -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 1:14:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874
I had a g/f some time ago who always turned up an hour late. I took that twice and then after that, I would wait 20 minutes and I would leave. she genuinely couldn't understand why, so I made another (dinner) date and again she turned up late. I smiled and was very pleasant and we ordered, then after a few minutes I excused myself and said I had to go to the toilet. I made a detour through the kitchen ( I knew the chefs) and went to the pub. That was basically the last time she ever spoke to me except to call me names. I did hear that she was always punctual for dates after that though

I would understand why, but then, it would just mean, the guy's temperament is not for me. Because whenever I am late, I am usually communicating with the guy constantly throughout by text messages all the way while I am trying to make my way there, with the exception of that particular hotel incident as I didn't have a means to communicate with him. So I don't know if something like this could happen, unless the guy is lying to me his still waiting there. Usually if his pissed off and his leaving, he will tell me over the phone already. And usually if the guy gets very angry, which of course understandably it could happen, but I usually don't see the guy again, because, it's just not gonna work between us, clearly.

But I don't know why you bother making second dinner date if you know that's her style. Was it to teach her a lesson? And I don't know why she turn up for the second. For me, I would already know we won't get along and won't bother further. So fortunately I never agreed to meet, or you would be so pissed off at me.

One of my second longer regular FB of 2 years already. His a Texan American. Very republican. Sometimes republicans get painted as evil males, but they make such gentlemen and are ridiculously kind and nice and patient men. On our very first meeting. I was suppose to meet him at 12pm for lunch. I arrived 2 hours late, I don't know why he patiently waited for me, all the way. And he even said his only worried because the waiter told him it's last order and want to make sure I had food and he was just happy I made it. But I was texting him throughout about it, and why I was delayed. Work stuffs. I usually follow my gut with men and somehow, my gut always leads me to really nice and patient guys with me. And I was expecting him to have walked off a long time ago and get really upset with me, as he should be. I don't expect any man to wait in such a situation, it's probably one of my most extreme late incident and somehow, I met a nice guy out of it. It wasn't so bad for him too because I suggested a place that was 5 mins walk from his hotel. So he didn't have to travel like a distance for this meet.

His gonna be my Valentine's date this year. And even when I was in Europe, he told me he could swing by and meet me there but of course it would be inappropriate as I was with another FB. So you know, the men who can't stand people who aren't punctual, are probably not gonna be cool with me. But that's why we have all sorts of different personality and character for different people.

There are strictly punctual women in this world, and I know many of them as well and I bet your SO is one of them :).



NookieNotes -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 3:22:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

In response to the "Men" thread....

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be out in a minute" you can figure on 20, and if they say "Give me a few" you might as well sit and watch the replay of a football game.

2) Lack of comprehension for the physics property of 'stored energy' and 'gravity,' i.e the toilet seat, if it is up, tap it and it returns to the down position with zero effort

3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.

4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of women that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater.

5) Strange fascination with owning as many pairs of shoes as financially viable.

6) They use up all their closet space and appropriate everyone else's

7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a dishwasher can cut grease off dishes etc, it will work perfectly well on engine parts.

8) what the hell is wrong with gutting fish in the kitchen sink?

9) inability to understand that if a suitcase is 2 cubic feet in volume, you cannot get 9 cubic feet of clothing in it.


Sexism answered with sexism:

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be home in a minute" you can figure on an hour, especially if they are out at a bar with the guys watching a football game.

2) Lack of comprehension for the idea that if THE COVER of the toilet is put down by both parties, both parties have to raise something and put it down (which is fair), and no plume.

3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.

4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of men that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater. I take about 10 minutes, total.

5) Strange fascination with owning as many types of outdoor gear as financially viable.

6) They use up all their garage space and appropriate everyone else's

7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a razor blade can cut beards, it will work perfectly well on legs and pussy.

8) what the hell is wrong with dyeing hair in the bathroom sink?

9) inability to understand that if a you constantly think in sexist ways, your opportunities for really good sex go WAY down.

These are HUMAN issues. Not women or man issues. The difference between your thread and the other is that she was letting off steam about one issue in her life specifically. You are making sport of an entire sex.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 4:21:37 AM)

I didn’t think it sexist nookie, nor derogatory. I have not seen the men thread but they most likely nailed it if it is something bout eg
Doing the wash, laundry some call it. Bundling her 1 day x 37 outfits and matching accoutrements, along with mans daily change of clothes – an intriguing pair of socks, that rarely match (sock parity thingy) into a 60c wash ( I think that’s Fahrenheit 451) a finer dystopia the world has barely bore witness too – coming out half the size, and 6/10 a lovely pink hue, and 4/10 and un describable hue of abhorrent blue.
Putting up not one non squinty shelf, building furniture back to front, burning boiled potatoes (can happen to anyone that, more so man), and so on.

1. They just do not specify the minute/day in question – so they are not incorrect.
2. I will give you that one - my own personally feeling is it should be nailed up, perhaps next to the squinty shelf.
3. Refers thee back to point 2, gravity spans all of time and space. Even two lonely atoms at either side of the known universe, perhaps elementary particles is a more apt word, whatever they are. If an argument utilise elementary particles, which they do, according to the laws of physics it was their entitlement to do so.
4. I almost get wet when I shower, I prefer the bath of many bubbles and 5 pages of a good book – library books I like them to leap out of my hand and me sneak em back. i will save the long version when they phoned me up and made outrageous accusations did you take the book for a swim etc. But I hypothesise its something to do with the shower head, tis why they always want the one with thirty settings, deep throb, pulse etc
5. Shoe theorem I have talked about it over all my time on the internet. It is basically an excuse for them putting your shoe shelf skills to the test, and for them to buy a matching designer dress, underwear, handbag, purse, sofa, kitchen etc One should never question their logic regarding such triviality.
6. Their closets and they will mock thee for your small pile of clothes scattered all lonely across the floor.
7. I have no idea what that means.
8. Tis a feng shui thingie much too complex for ordinary man to understand
9. If I removed all the empty space from Mount Everest, nae the Himalayas themselves, I can assure you it will fit into two cubic feet



DesFIP -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 8:45:11 AM)

I find that most people have not been taught to resolve conflict and practice fair fighting.

Personally, I am punctual if you give me the time I need. Telling me something at the last minute does not work. Plan it ahead, tell me at the latest, the night before, so I can get everything done that I need to do.

Make me have to touch a toilet seat that you've sprayed urine on is wrong. I'm not the one that made it disgusting and I should not be punished for your actions.

My son owns more clothes and shoes than my daughter and I combined.

The person here who uses all the hot water is The Man's older son. That kid can stay in a shower for an hour.

You can use the dishwasher for non eating items only if there are no dishes or glasses or silverware in it. Don't cross contaminate.
Sink? Only if you scrub it clean after. Don't leave it for others to degrease it. Better yet, use the laundry sink downstairs which is much closer to the garage and the car.



LadyPact -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 10:23:49 AM)

Have I ever told you that I love these, Jeff? I don't necessarily seem them as sexist. Usually, they turn out to be funny with no real harm done. While I agree it's more an individual thing depending on the person that you are with, these little laughs at ourselves can be entertaining. (By the way, I always think of you when the subject of throw pillows comes up.)

Without further ado...
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

In response to the "Men" thread....

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be out in a minute" you can figure on 20, and if they say "Give me a few" you might as well sit and watch the replay of a football game.

I cop to this 100%. I call it living in really long minute world. I honestly don't care what you do while time is suspended, (i.e., the aforementioned watching of the football game). Your job while I'm getting ready to go anywhere is to leave me the f^ck alone. I get ready to go anywhere in a very specific order, so you're not "helping" me by handing me my cell phone when I'm on another step in the 'getting ready to go' process. What you're really doing is interrupting the way I do things, which means I have to try to remember what stage I was in during getting ready and nine times out of ten, it's going to mean that it will take me longer. We'll both be better off (and out the door when we're supposed to be) if you just let me do what I have to do. Over the years, MP has just adjusted to this by telling me we have to leave at least fifteen minutes earlier than we really have to be out of the door.

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2) Lack of comprehension for the physics property of 'stored energy' and 'gravity,' i.e the toilet seat, if it is up, tap it and it returns to the down position with zero effort.

I do not find this to be acceptable. The bathroom is generally one of the rooms with the best acoustics in the house. (Why do you think so many people sing in the shower?) That tap results in a loud crash of the toilet seat hitting the bowl, which generally draws the attention of every other pair of ears in the house, which follows that well meaning people will concern themselves with asking you if you are alright. This is not only embarrassing but annoys me at having to answer somebody during nature's call.

Which, by the way, is something you should know. If the bathroom door is closed and I'm in there, anything you are bringing up in casual conversation can WAIT. I'm really not going to be in there so long that any trivial matter can't be put on hold. The exceptions to this are if you are screaming FIRE, have fallen down and have broken something, or you are bleeding from the head. Like every other mother on the planet, I have spent my years when the off-spring were little and I got no privacy in the bathroom. You are grown. I expect you to have a more reasonable approach.

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3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.

Allow me to introduce you to two concepts that exist in my world. One is called "dot to dot" thinking. You may not see how whatever is going on at the current moment will be connected to what you did years ago but I can assure you that I do. It might be kind of like that six degrees from Kevin Bacon thing. However, it really is there. Ask me after I'm done being pissed off and I'll gladly draw you a map.

Second, all women have what I call the mental filing cabinet. We're not necessarily chomping at the bit to pull out some old, dust-covered, forgotten file, but we know it's in there. You may have forgotten what's in any of those files. I haven't.

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4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of women that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater.

Bah. I know men who do the same thing. If you want the hot water, get in the shower first. Simple.

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5) Strange fascination with owning as many pairs of shoes as financially viable.

This is because you do not understand shoes as a category. Under the category of shoes, you must understand that there are sub categories, otherwise known as sneakers, boots, sandals, etc. We've been trying to teach you people for years that the brown shoes do not go with the black pants, that there is a difference between flats, heels, and pumps, and many other nuances to what we wear on our feet. Until we get you past that, there is no point of us trying to teach you about handbags and other accessories.

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6) They use up all their closet space and appropriate everyone else's

On this, I will defend myself. MP actually owns as many clothes as I do if you consider things like uniforms. I know you have first hand experience on what that really entails, so I'm taking the win on this one.

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7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a dishwasher can cut grease off dishes etc, it will work perfectly well on engine parts.

I might find this acceptable *if* you don't put another damn thing in the dishwasher with them *and* agree to run an additional (empty) cycle after you take them out. Frankly, I say the same thing about sex toys/insertables. If you don't have an autoclave, this is one of the best methods for things like glass dildos, etc. Want it clean? It's the best appliance in your house.

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8) what the hell is wrong with gutting fish in the kitchen sink?
It's that most of you don't know how to clean a sink afterwards worth a damn. Learn how to leave my kitchen in the same state as the way you found it and we'll talk.

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9) inability to understand that if a suitcase is 2 cubic feet in volume, you cannot get 9 cubic feet of clothing in it.

I will be the first person to admit that I overpack. This is especially true if we are going somewhere kink related for a few days. How am I to know what kind of scenes I may want to engage in while I'm there? You think you only need one pair of shoes, but I probably need five. (See above post about how you don't understand how shoes work.) I'm not wearing that f^cking corset all of the way on the drive there, and there really are such things as day and evening leather. You are not required to understand this. Your job is to pack the vehicle. If I can get the items into any particular suitcase and it *closes,* I'm good.

Edited for a spelling error.





OsideGirl -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 11:12:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

In response to the "Men" thread....

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be out in a minute" you can figure on 20, and if they say "Give me a few" you might as well sit and watch the replay of a football game.
I have no concept of time. If you ask me to tell you 5 minutes has gone by, I will be off - either early or late. It's actually a recognized issue in the psychology world. It's also a symptom of ADHD. I know several men that have the same issue, including my brother.

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2) Lack of comprehension for the physics property of 'stored energy' and 'gravity,' i.e the toilet seat, if it is up, tap it and it returns to the down position with zero effort
I was raised that toilets have a lid for a reason - No one wants to see the inside or your toilet. So, beyond the seat, I expect the lid to be down. Besides, you should always flush the toilet with the lid down for sanitary reasons.

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3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.
I consider that to be unhealthy behavior, so I don't engage in that.

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4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of women that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater.
Tankless water heater....just saying

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5) Strange fascination with owning as many pairs of shoes as financially viable.
M has $100k worth of tools and an odd fascination with expensive flashlights....so a discussion about my shoes is off of the table.

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6) They use up all their closet space and appropriate everyone else's
Our closet is even split.

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7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a dishwasher can cut grease off dishes etc, it will work perfectly well on engine parts.
It's not the same type of grease and car gunk residue on our dishes is not an appealing thought. Go use "Brake Clean" that's what it's for.

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8) what the hell is wrong with gutting fish in the kitchen sink?
Nothing, but M doesn't fish.

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9) inability to understand that if a suitcase is 2 cubic feet in volume, you cannot get 9 cubic feet of clothing in it.
Space Bags - end of story.



jlf1961 -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 12:38:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP



Make me have to touch a toilet seat that you've sprayed urine on is wrong. I'm not the one that made it disgusting and I should not be punished for your actions.




If the toilet seat was put into the up position, and the male still managed to spray it with urine, the male has some serious problems either requiring a physician, or a repeat of potty training.


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5) Strange fascination with owning as many types of outdoor gear as financially viable.

6) They use up all their garage space and appropriate everyone else's


If you are referring to camping gear, that is actually essential to survival.

Which brings up the following question,

Where the hell do some (a lot, but not all) women come up with the idea that camping means 'Holiday Inn,' or any other hotel for that matter.

And a motor home or trailer is by no means camping, unless said trailer is a pop up tent (and that is pushing it.)

There is no garage space for anyone else, period.



PeonForHer -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 4:27:21 PM)

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7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a razor blade can cut beards, it will work perfectly well on legs and pussy.


The one time I tried that in reverse I cut my face to ribbons. Who'd have thought a little razor with a pink handle could be that vicious? Never again.



jlf1961 -> RE: Women (1/21/2016 5:53:35 PM)

Lady P, on the subject of shoes....

Necessities:
2 pair boots (4 if you ride and own horses)
1 pair of sneakers
3 pair of HANDMADE traditional moccasins (unless you being tracked by a damn good tracker, mocs leave little or no trail)

On the subject of outdoor gear:

Shelter half (or both halves)
Pocket knife
Bowie knife
Fairbairn–Sykes (if you need to ask, then you obviously will not survive the great Trump inspired collapse of civilization as we know it)
Bedroll (more versatile than sleeping bags)
2 fire starter kits, one flint and steel, one magnesium
Breakdown crossbow, suited to strap to outside of back pack
2 dozen bolts, razor heads
pistol (personally prefer 1911 45, but whatever you comfortable with)
First aid kit (suggest field surgeon carry kit, includes suture packs)
Backpack (personally prefer the old ALICE style ruck, framed are good for somethings, just not ease of movement)
Rifle.
Book of edible plants for region
250 feet paracord.
Breakdown fishing pole
100 feet of 50lb monofiliment fish line.
50 rounds ammo for each weapon.




LaTigresse -> RE: Women (1/23/2016 2:42:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

In response to the "Men" thread....

1) No concept of the passing of time, when they say "I will be out in a minute" you can figure on 20, and if they say "Give me a few" you might as well sit and watch the replay of a football game.

2) Lack of comprehension for the physics property of 'stored energy' and 'gravity,' i.e the toilet seat, if it is up, tap it and it returns to the down position with zero effort

3) The habit of bringing up past arguments even when not ever REMOTELY connected to the present point of conflict.

4) The annoying habit of staying in the shower so long that the hot water is used up. I have personally known of women that would use up the water in an 80 gallon hot water heater.

5) Strange fascination with owning as many pairs of shoes as financially viable.

6) They use up all their closet space and appropriate everyone else's

7) Unable to grasp the idea that if a dishwasher can cut grease off dishes etc, it will work perfectly well on engine parts.

8) what the hell is wrong with gutting fish in the kitchen sink?

9) inability to understand that if a suitcase is 2 cubic feet in volume, you cannot get 9 cubic feet of clothing in it.


I've been married to the same guy for 25+ years. The funny thing is that he is worse at most of these things than I am. Especially shower and bathroom time. He also does not understand the shoe thing. He doesn't have to. I have a job and can buy my own shoes.

We solved the closet issue easily. He gets the entire walk in closet. I get the entire small spare bedroom, and it's small closet, for all of my closet needs, art supply storage and photo gear storage. If I run out of room for clothing, I start clearing out stuff and send it to charity.



dcnovice -> RE: Women (1/23/2016 3:02:22 PM)

FR

I was so well trained, by both my mother and a female friend with whom I shared a home for many years, that I dutifully put the seat down every time--even living alone for 20 or so years!

That finally changed a few years ago, when I got my colostomy and only ever used the toilet with the seat in the up position. Even so, I still put it down if I'm a guest somewhere.



DocStrange -> RE: Women (1/23/2016 4:29:30 PM)

Answer to the toilet seat issue of up or down. Get one of these for the bathroom

[image]http://www.plumbing-geek.com/images/cranepedestalurinal2.jpg[/image]



Aceofsocks -> RE: Women (1/26/2016 11:28:05 AM)

Women! Did not Gawd create them for Shagging and procreation?



MercTech -> RE: Women (1/29/2016 3:33:18 PM)

Real man's toilet seat.

http://retrorenovation.com/2011/02/23/a-vintage-toilet-seat-designed-just-for-men-olsonit/

Great revenge for those that put fuzzy toilet lid covers on that prevent the seat from staying in the "up" position.



Greta75 -> RE: Women (1/31/2016 11:04:49 PM)

Yea come to think about the toilet problems. To be fair, official hygiene advisory says that you should always close the lid before you flush the toilet, so germs don't go flying everywhere.

So I guess men should practice basic hygiene.



Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Women (2/1/2016 1:37:58 AM)

I believe both men in my house need to either see a doctor ASAP or be taught the " sit and tuck"
If they were at the shooting range, they would definitely get last place. Maybe I should put a floating bullseye in the stool for their practice.[:-]



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