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Termyn8or -> RE: Income Taxes and Voting (1/22/2016 8:14:52 PM)
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I just gotta tellya about the case of Michael Rodent. (not his real name)
This is from a newspaper many decades ago though they probably got it from the wire. This guy was getting the blank W-2 forms and filing income tax returns in a whole bunch of names. He got the IRS for many thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands. Back then, I guess the records were not always on time and the computers were, well not what we have today.
I can't believe I can actually substantiate this somewhat :
https://books.google.com/books?id=p-MAtoCG74EC&pg=PA34&lpg=PA34&dq=michael+rodent+irs&source=bl&ots=7CS3cUhl9u&sig=KvnQAwD3Lqcpzb5qIkgfbEscCHs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjDopSXhL_KAhXG7SYKHce4DX8Q6AEIJTAB#v=onepage&q=michael%20rodent%20irs&f=false
I am not reading that whole thing and the link goes directly to the page which mentions our favorite leader of the Mouseketeers. But I bet it leaves out one thing we thought was totally hilarious. The local article said that they did of course eventually bust him. (none of this could happen today) He wound up in the federal pen of course.
While there, he was at it again. Rules in prison vary on what is allowed in and not, but for the most part if it comes from a company it is more likely to get in. Well in this case, it was from an office supply store, and it was more W-2s and W-1040s. Well he was back in business again, though he probably couldn't get the checks cashed in prison, he still filed the fraudulent returns.
So they catch him AGAIN, while in prison doing this and at his trial his lawyer says "Well you might as well release him because you are obviously not rehabilitating him".
I also knew someone who almost bought a bar on welfare. It was just a matter of having the W-1040s. The bank would accept them as proof of income. He filed on X amount for the last few years and the loan got approved. There were other problems but the loan got approved. Now get this, when you apply for a loan, you are not under oath. If you lie, and make the payments there is not a damnthing they can do to you. However, if you do not make that FIRST payment at least, you can be charged with fraud.
The IRS has responded to this by requiring alot of record keeping and data entry. The data are entered for each SSN each quarter. If you file claiming $300,000 in income and they see nothing for the first three quarters of the tax year it puts up red flags. Also, banks have responded by making you get the official IRS form, which ONLY YOU can get, but requiring you to submit it to them. I would bet that they also require a notarized statement that the report is actually from the IRS. Bottom line, many many years ago I forged a few of those with software and a good LASER printer. But the IRS is not allowed to divulge that information unless it comes through you somehow.
(ETA: they MIGHT just make you open the envelope in front of them in the office instead of an affidavit these days, it wouild work fine)
If you are being investigated by the IRS and they tell anyone else, they have a $100,000 fine per instance which is paid directly to you. A while back a guy won against them and they were found guilty on 13 counts, which got him a cool million three. I suppose the three went to his lawyer, but he still netted around a cool million.
Tell you what though, the IRS does this by mail, there is no ID involved. Tax companies often give advance refunds and sometimes might (have) cashed the check(s) for the customer. Bottom line, try to cash the refund check ANYWHERE without ID.
There are places to cash checks without ID. They require a few other things, pieces of recent mail, preferably utility bills or something like that - and a thumbprint. They take it on that white Scotch type tape and attach it directly to the check in front of a camera.
And now, there are no third party endorsements on most government checks including income tax refunds. That means no more just getting anyone to cash them. Michael Rodent would sure be out of business eh ?
T^T
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