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And the number of people associated with the Clinton campaign that have committed suicide ... well.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

I hope phydeaux comes back to address that himself but in the meantime, apart from that people commit suicide for reason's other than depression, its possible he's referring to the deaths associated with the Clintons that were deemed "suicides" but that were nevertheless mysterious/unexplained and had timing being somewhat fortuitous to the Clintons.

what speaks to our character more is when we make judgments without first seeking understanding. im frequently guilty of that myself.

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no one has "actual" evidence. there is only, as I said, mystery caused by the timings and other factors.

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maybe its less about "partisan points"

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what's the relationship between the Clintons, their ideology, or the practice of their ideology, that might cause/lead to/be associated with a higher suicide rate amongst the people around them when compared to the general population?

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what is it about death in general, or suicide in particular, that makes it off limits in an ideological battle?

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I don't know if that's true

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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I don't know if that's true

Don't let that stop you.

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This is simply a wordier rephrasing of the earlier attempt to tar the Clintons without, as you acknowledged, actual evidence.

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To borrow from Duke Ellington, if you have to ask . . . .

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In other words, innuendo and speculation.

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sometimes things that are nevertheless true, start out as "innuendo and speculation" even if they never move beyond that. other times, those characteristics lead to further examination in which the truth is uncovered. given how shady the Clintons are in general, this is just one more thing in the debit column even though one doesn't know exactly what to believe.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

considering that bill had never been charged with rape, maybe you must believe as fido , he claims bill is a rapist, without any proof, charges, or ..
Same as the suicide meme he just brought up.
It was mean spirited and baiting.
but hey, its the new normal

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According to a former rape investigator with the New Orleans Police Department, lip biting is a common M.O. for rapists. She told Inside Cover:

"The reason rapists bite is because, even with the full weight of her attacker on top of her, the woman is often able to resist the parting of her legs by locking her ankles. The rapist's arms are busy keeping her pinned down. The only weapon the rapist has left is his teeth, which he uses to bite while demanding she open her legs
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Broaddrick

Juanita Broaddrick was a county coordinator for Bill Clinton and a volunteer in his ’78 gubernatorial campaign.

On April 25, 1978, Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton, the state’s highest law enforcement official, allegedly raped Juanita Broaddrick– savagely biting her top lip to subdue her. Broaddrick recalls that after the incident, Clinton put on his sunglasses and told her to ice her mangled lips…

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You might want to put some ice on that.

Broaddrick’s friend, Norma Rogers-Kelsay, found here in her hotel room after the rape. Kelsay told Fox news on February 2, 1999 that Juanita “was hysterical– her lip was blue and bleeding and her hose was severely torn”. Kelsay says Juanita “told me they had intercourse against her will.”

Evidence suggests Hillary Clinton knew about the rape in real time and helped cover it up. We know this because Larry Nichols was in the room with Buddy Young when Hillary came running in, shouting “You will never believe what the mother****** [Bill] did now– he tried to rape some b****!”

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Eileen Wellstone

Rhodes scholar Bill Clinton allegedly raped 19-year-old Eileen Wellstone at Oxford in 1969.

Wellstone says she was sexually assaulted by Bill after she met him at a pub. A retired State Department employee later anonymously told Capitol Hill Blue in 1999 “There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma…But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes scholar charged with rape.”

Bill left Oxford with no degree (96% of Rhodes Scholars get degrees).

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In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale
University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student
at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen
contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident.

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From 1978-1980, during Clinton’s first term as governor
of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were
aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton
forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired
state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among
those assigned to protect Clinton was "who’s next?".
One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort
women to the governor’s hotel room after political events, often
more than one an evening;

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In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas
complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried
to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She
said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse

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Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America
crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have
sex with him shortly after she won her state crown.

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Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual
harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little
Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself.

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Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political
fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her
to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation’s capital
in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her
dress.
•Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton’s leased
campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed
himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks.

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Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that
Clinton fondled her against her will during an Oval Office meeting
in November, 1993.

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The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."