What about T gyrls and bois?

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slavegyrl -> What about T gyrls and bois? (11/30/2004 9:06:49 PM)
As a T gyrl who has been a 24/7 slave three times to all 3 genders. i find that the BDSM community as a whole miss out on some of the most erotic creatures on old mother earth. By treating them as there chosen gender and as a sub/slave they tend to go far beyond your normal expectations. As a 24/7 TS it takes a lot just to go out into the world each day and to have some one is interested in playing with me, makes that person a most special person that during our play time i give to them 150% of my energy and i make sure that they never forget our time together. So the next time you get a chance to enslave or play with one of us try it you might like it. slavegyrl michele

knees2you -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (11/30/2004 10:53:03 PM)
For me it is the exact opposite. A Domme,/Mistress T~girl Gives the best of both worlds~[:)] quote: "We can see but yet still be blind." Sincerely, anthony [image]local://upfiles/19655/95261C6C71AC47B6B6C6A7FA7AF82C5C.jpg[/image]

slavegyrl -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (11/30/2004 11:09:23 PM)
T people in any position are fantastic. We bring to the community something very unique.

MistressDREAD -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (11/30/2004 11:20:08 PM)
I own both and adore both back home. My boi is the best blacker I know outside the USA.

slavegyrl -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/1/2004 1:51:43 PM)
Thank you for your comments. This posting was ment to give some interest in our community. There are a few who see the uniqueness in us but as a whole we are over looked. Tops, especially het. males, if they find us attractive might think them selves gay. i have found this to be the norm from coast to coast. Lets hope that will change the more they understand.

INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/1/2004 2:21:54 PM)
While not my preference, I applaud your courage as you say to live your life as you choose to, and not based on another's opinion. I will also say that I appreciate your use of the Trans-slave descriptor in your profile, I don't think its correct to list one as a female when in fact they are not. My first experience with a person on Collarme was with someone that waited until 3 months after we began talking, to mention that she had a penis. Again, this is just not my preference, but it was unfair, and dishonest.

sub4hire -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/1/2004 7:46:05 PM)
I think it depends on what group you most associate with. I started a BDSM group about 4 years ago now. Where we don't have a lot. We have about 6 transgendered individuals. In my group if you're at a party, they usually end up with more play partners than the others. I'm sorry to hear you've had such trouble. Perhaps you just need to try the right group for you.

NYCLeatherFem -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/3/2004 1:00:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: INSIDEYOURMIND I will also say that I appreciate your use of the Trans-slave descriptor in your profile, I don't think its correct to list one as a female when in fact they are not. My first experience with a person on Collarme was with someone that waited until 3 months after we began talking, to mention that she had a penis. Again, this is just not my preference, but it was unfair, and dishonest. I respect your opinion, but I must ask... You ascribe to the notion that gender = genitals? It is very late but I'll attempt to elaborate. With regards to gender = genitals. I'm thinking that it is your belief that in addition to gender = genitals. You are pointing to the chromosomal make-up of someone as being the definition of gender. If you do a web search on transfolk and brain differences you will find a wealth of information that strongly suggests that transgendered individuals actually have structural differences that are similar to those of the "opposite" sex. Scientific studies and statistics rule out "chance" in explaining why transexuals brains are more physically similar to those of the gender that they identify with than the one associated with their genitals. Therefore, they are physically different to those of us lwho have a body that matches our gender identity. I believe that if this physical difference is the key to our gender 'identity', then transexuals are what they feel they are. If one says "she", doesn't that personal perception have any validity? CM.com allows one the opportunity of gender expression. I agree that your first experience was shameful if you were mislead by his/her profile selections. Deception is rampant online. How many people, I wonder, have been approached by someone claiming title or experience that they did not possess? How many false photos are posted in this medium? Did she indeed identify as transgender or transexual (pre, partial or post surgery), or did he merely cross dress? Apologies for the thread derailment. Trans-Leather? Delicious. Great thread slavegyrl! edited for typos

rocker -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/3/2004 8:13:49 AM)
dear slavegyrl michele back in 1979 behind the orange curtain i met a phillipina beauty.. i mean this girl had it going on... and She picked me up... i was kissing on her in the bar in front of my co workers and everything... when we got to her house... well i, at that time didn't even know about transgendering... i was dumber than a sack of rocks about homosexuality, bi sexuality, etc... so i was totally blown away... She looked like a girl, spoke like a girl, built like a girl (breasts and all.. and not implants either) and She was absolutely beautiful. but when the panties came down she had a extra large clitty... you know what i mean. if You run into people with narrow, mean minds, be glad they don't like You. You are able to see them for the mean narrow minded people they are. You will be safe from their hateful control and with luck they may not allow You into their lives... which even though might seem mean at first... in the long run it is a blessing as You don't want to play with those types anyway... i say its all good... God don't make no junk and everything is in its proper place and time so for A/all you gender bending folks.. follow Your hearts... let the dead bury the dead and live... cuz life is a terrible thing to waste... and you yourself are responsible for your own happiness. one can never find true happiness outside oneself.. it must come from within You to fulfill You... but when You do find it, and can share it... then it is increased ad infinitum... and wow... even living a life of honesty with all its hurts and evil people that prey.. it is still 100% better than a life of lies...

perverseangelic -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/3/2004 8:20:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NYCLeatherFem I'm thinking that it is your belief that in addition to gender = genitals, you are pointing to the chromosomal make-up of an individual as being the decider of gender. I'm not going to quote all this, but I'd like to applaud you for saying what I was thinking so well. In addition to the points you made, one should note that the occurance of ambiguous genitalia in babies is reasonably frequent (in the grand scheme of life. I don't have the numbers in front of me). In modern treatment of those cases, the individuals in question are allowed to grow up enough to be able to communicate which gender they are and then may or may not undergo surgery to make their genitals more normal in apperance. My point in this case is that genitals aren't really that accurate a measure of an individuals gender. The same can be said for chromosomes. Again, there is a decent percent of the population with chromosomes other than the XX-female XY-male., so they're a bit of a shoddy way to determine "true" gender.

juicycute -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/3/2004 8:56:24 AM)
Exactly what I was thinking also, thank you. I welcome the opportunity to play or have a relationship with a T~girl. I've had a crush on one for over a year...mmmm...a very cute one. She's in Thailand right now for her surgery. Can't wait to see her again... Oh sorry went off on a tangent there. I guess the point of my post is to let you know there are others out there that are open and willing to be with you, slavegyrl and to agree with NYCLeatherFem and perverseangelic. [:D] back into lurkdom I go

karmaslave -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/4/2004 5:45:12 PM)
(To no poster in particular, you know who you aren't) Is it really "narrow-minded" if you just don't like cocks?

kneeling4utouse -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/4/2004 6:26:18 PM)
A TG Mistress presents a cahnce to explore amny facets of human sexuality and can bring pleasure to a relationship in many ways. I desire to serve a TG but simply don't have any interest in serving a Master. Guess that is my way of denying my desire to explore my biseuality.

slavegyrl -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (12/5/2004 9:31:20 PM)
Well, I find your comments hopeful & encourgeing. I had a wonderful time this weekend at the South West Leather convention in AZ. The weather was great if you are from AZ if not it sucked. 99.8% of the people enjoyed my presence and i had a fantastic time! There were no wannabees, they were true BDSM leather people from all over the country and they are family. Out of 308 people there were 2 TS M to F and atleast 5 F to Ms. It was a great experiance!

garylee -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (1/19/2005 8:57:23 AM)
i am in self transition........male to female.......while i do not yet call myself T gurl......i am i guess kinda inbetween the sexes.......i have my male things down there and breasts growing........ someday i hope to be a woman......but that's another posting...... garylee

SwitchNCgal -> RE: What about T gyrls and bois? (1/20/2005 2:04:46 PM)
i had a great reply but now here is a shorter version Thought i was the only T here trying to educate the others that wanted to be educated Thanks NYC for saying what i would have! angelic they are calle intersexed and the American Pediatrics Assoation sayes that any child can be raised successful as either sex as long as it is started before age 2. which the facts have proven them wrong and had made thousands of unhappy adults that are now fixing the mistakes done by the docs 20 years ago. The intersexed outreach groups recommend waiting until the child reaches that age in witch they choose what they are ie girl, or boy and then fix the body to match not change the body and hope it matches the brain if that is even considered at all. I think the APA should stay out of psychology and stick to babies and making sure they are healthy after all what does it hurt to wait a couple years?

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