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Universal truths - 2/5/2016 9:07:58 PM

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Ladies, if your boyfriend/husband/lover never packed a chute and stepped from a C47 (for the old geezers) or a C130 or whatever the Brits use to carry troopers to where they need to be....

You got a girlfriend.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 9:31:31 PM

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I've jumped from both and I have to tell ya, I prefer the C 47

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 9:56:02 PM

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I've jumped from both and I have to tell ya, I prefer the C 47

Never jumped from the C47, but did enough from the 130, including HALO.

Personally, prefer the HALO

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 10:32:16 PM

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scary but fun................the C47 invoked thoughts of WW2 paras and airborne troops. Before my time but the mind seems to drift back there while you are waiting to go.
The worst I ever jumped from was a Nord Noratlas. I swear that thing was held together with baling wire and chewing gum. The pleasure was getting out of it in one piece

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 10:38:38 PM

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scary but fun................the C47 invoked thoughts of WW2 paras and airborne troops. Before my time but the mind seems to drift back there while you are waiting to go.
The worst I ever jumped from was a Nord Noratlas. I swear that thing was held together with baling wire and chewing gum. The pleasure was getting out of it in one piece

Dude, you didnt have to deal with air national guard navigators who couldnt find their way out of a room with one door. Those guys had a nasty habit of dropping us everywhere BUT the dz.

Air National Guard crews dropped me on mountains, in lakes, swamps, trees making damn sure my string had a 9 klick or more hump to where we was supposed to be.

at least in training.

When it counted, we were delivered on time on on target.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 10:52:06 PM

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see if you can find anything about the legion paras at Dien Bien Phu..................those guys went out from 500 feet. Some even survived the jump, only to be killed or captured by the viet-minh but they said they would rather take their chances than leave their comrades in the lurch. A couple are said to have held the pilots at pistol point to ensure they did what was required of them !!
Me, I was happy to jump on nice quiet days with nobody thinking I would make an excellent target and usually our pilots could put you somewhere within the borders of the country you were supposed to be in.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 11:23:05 PM

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We were training in Tunisia one time and got dropped in the desert. The drop was fine but the sergeants compass was busted until one bright spark got the idea of suspending the needle from a piece of wool from his sock and using that. Primitive but it worked. I have to tell you though that after a few minutes, one sand dune looks very similar to the last and the next. It was what was termed a 'Hard' exercise, so no contact with base and only French iron rations. Oh joy !!

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 11:24:09 PM

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ah well, 'March or Die'

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RE: Universal truths - 2/5/2016 11:47:08 PM

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Yeah, I read about the legion at Dien Bien Phu,

But there was the brit paras involved in Market Garden.

Lets face it, if there is a dirty job, the paratroopers gonna get it, if it really sucks, the special ops boys are gonna get stuck with it, and if it really sucks and the government needs 'plausible deniability,' its the black ops troopers.

we are expected to do a job with minimal equipment.

Half the time the LZ is hot as hell, deep in indian country, and some fuck up in "military intelligence" has either misread the map or decided the pictures lied so you gonna find more guys shooting at you than you were supposed to.

Thus, the universal truth, if a woman's lover, boyfriend or boytoy never made a drop, she got a girlfriend.

With the possible exception of marines. Any fool that trains to run across hundred yards or more of open beach with no cover either has a shit ton of guts, balls of steel or is completely insane.

Or all of the above.

Then you have the airmobile boys, god knows that every enemy trooper with a sling shot is gonna hear those freaking choppers coming in and be waiting for them.

No, give me a drop on a moonless night in indian country.

Standard infantry just pokes along figuring they will get there whenever they damn well feel like it while good troopers are deep in hurt locker praying someone shows up when they are supposed to.

Armor guys are dumb enough to climb into steel coffins that will draw every bit of arty, air, and whatever else can be thrown at em.

Then there is arty.

When arty puts the rounds where you want them, arty good.

BUT, if a round can fall short it will, if some idiot can fuck up coords, he will, and the best thing arty can do is drop em where you want em so that bad arty goes to counter battery fire and the poor ground pounders can unass the target zone.

And finally, if a trooper makes 4 tours in Nam, makes a career in airborne, finally getting rangers, what fucking god has the right to take his ass at 76 years old after 4 purple hearts, DSM, and enough ribbons on his chest to cover a Macy's day parade?

Hasnt he earned the right to hang around?

Airborne aint supposed to grow old, we supposed to stay young, 10 foot tall and fucking bullet proof.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/6/2016 12:01:46 AM

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I had to laugh about what you said about the artillery.................ever see 'Kelly's Heroes' and Mulligans Mortars ? I nearly got thrown out of the cinema when that bit showed. I couldn't stop laughing because it was so true !!!......."MULLIGAN ??? He's never been on target and on time yet !!" and when Kelly fronts him near the beginning, the artillery sergeant admits that he doesn't know one shell from another....they all look the same to him LOL.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/6/2016 12:06:52 AM

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I have to tell you Jeff, growing old is the only thing some of us are allowed to do. I have told my partner and my son what to do with me when I make that final parade and they have come to accept it.

When I am dead, cry for me a little,
Think of me sometimes
but not too much

Think of me now and again as I was in life,
at some moment it is pleasant to recall.
But not for long.

Leave me in peace, and I shall leave you in peace,
and while you live, let your thoughts be with the living.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/6/2016 6:04:56 AM

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Ladies, if your boyfriend/husband/lover never packed a chute and stepped from a C47 (for the old geezers) or a C130 or whatever the Brits use to carry troopers to where they need to be....

You got a girlfriend.

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and pussy.
Thomas Jefferson

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RE: Universal truths - 2/8/2016 8:47:53 AM

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There are no universal truths only universal suppositions.

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RE: Universal truths - 2/9/2016 6:07:50 AM

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