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Republican debate number 8 - 2/7/2016 11:01:25 AM   
Lucylastic


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Now thats what Im talking about, Christie had his best night ever,
Rubio looked like a freakin moron, got stuck on one phrase four times.

Carson had a troubling entry but shit all over Cruz (as he was entitled to)
It was fun to see the stumbling entry with Trump standing by him, but still doing his thang.
They were my highlights of the night, anyone else?
Edited to add, yes it was the 8th debate, not seventh.


Factcheck.org mention this today about the Cruz robocall issue
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/factchecking-the-eighth-gop-debate/
Cruz Blames CNN

During the debate, Cruz apologized to Carson for spreading false information on the night of the Iowa caucus that Carson was suspending his campaign. In doing so, Cruz wrongly blamed CNN for an erroneous report on Carson, and claimed CNN “didn’t correct” its story till 9:15 p.m.
In fact, CNN accurately reported that Carson was not going directly to New Hampshire but rather would stop in Florida and Washington, D.C., before going on to New Hampshire. Cruz got the timeline wrong, too.
First, a little background: Cruz was apologizing for phone calls that were made to Iowa voters on Feb. 1, the night of the Iowa caucus, informing them that Carson was suspending his campaign. Carson released an audio of the call, which said: “Hello. This is the Cruz campaign with breaking news. Dr. Ben Carson will be suspending campaigning following tonight’s caucus. Please inform any Carson caucus-goers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted instead.”
Here’s Cruz’s version of what happened, which wrongly blames CNN for his campaign’s inaccurate assumption of what was accurately reported:
Cruz: Let me tell you the facts of what occurred for those who are interested in knowing. On Monday night, about 6:30 p.m., CNN reported that Ben was not going from Iowa to New Hampshire or South Carolina. Rather, he was, quote, “Taking a break from campaigning.”

They reported that on television, CNN’s political anchors, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and Wolf Blitzer, said it was highly unusual and highly significant. My political team saw CNN’s report breaking news and they forwarded that news to our volunteers, it was being covered on live television.

Now, at the time, I was at the caucuses, I was getting ready to speak at the caucuses just like Ben was, just like everyone else was. I knew nothing about this. A couple hours later, I found out about it. I was told that Ben was unhappy. I called him that evening because I respect him very, very highly. I didn’t reach him that evening.

I reached him the next day and apologized. He asked me then, he said, Ted, would you make this apologize in public? I said, yes, I will. And I did so. I regret that subsequently, CNN reported on that — they didn’t correct that story until 9:15 that night. So from 6:30 p.m. to 9:15, that’s what CNN was reporting.

Subsequent to that initial report, Ben’s campaign put out a statement saying that he was not suspending his campaign. I wish that our campaign staff had forwarded that statement. They were unaware of it, I wish that they had, that’s why I apologized.

Here’s actually what happened:
On Feb. 1 at 7:43 ET (6:43 CT), CNN political reporter Chris Moody tweeted that “Carson won’t go to NH/SC, but instead will head home to Florida for some R&R. He’ll be in DC Thursday for the National Prayer Breakfast.”
A minute later, CNN’s Dana Bash reported on air that Carson was going to Florida and D.C.
Bash, Feb. 1: We should say that our Chris Moody is breaking this news, that Ben Carson is going to go back to Florida to his home regardless of how he does tonight here in Iowa. He’s going to go there for several days.

And then afterwards, he’s not going to go to South Carolina. He’s not going to go to New Hampshire. He’s going to come to Washington, D.C., and he’s going to do that because the national prayer breakfast is on Thursday.

CNN’s Jake Tapper, sitting next to Bash on the set, called it “very unusual.” Tapper and Bash tossed the show back to Blitzer in Washington, D.C., who said the report on Carson was “very significant” and thanked them for the report. Blitzer then quickly pivoted to other election news.
No one on CNN — Moody, Bash, Tapper or Blitzer — said Carson was suspending his campaign.

In fact, Moody almost immediately tweeted that Carson’s campaign would continue. The tweet — which was also stamped at 7:43 ET (6:43 CT), the same time as his first tweet — said, “Ben Carson’s campaign tells me he plans to stay in the race beyond Iowa no matter what the results are tonight.”
Also, Jason Osborne — a senior strategist for Carson — tweeted from Clive, Iowa, that Carson was “not standing down.” He tweeted that Carson “will be going to Florida to get fresh clothes b4 heading back out on the campaign trail.”

So, Cruz’s claim that CNN “didn’t correct that story until 9:15 that night” is wrong: CNN didn’t have to “correct” the story because it didn’t get it wrong, and the information that Carson would continue to campaign beyond Iowa was reported by CNN and confirmed by Carson’s top strategist long before 9:15 p.m.

CNN spokesman Matt Dornic issued a statement on Cruz’s debate claim that read, “What senator Cruz said tonight in the debate is categorically false. CNN never corrected its reporting because CNN never had anything to correct. The Cruz campaign’s actions the night of the Iowa caucuses had nothing to do with CNN’s reporting. The fact that Senator Cruz continues to knowingly mislead the voters about this is astonishing.”

Jake Tapper’s Twitter response was more succinct: “Good Lord.”

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/7/2016 11:24:54 PM   
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I wish Chris Christie would be a better front runner!

I like Trump, but I wouldn't hang out with him. I mean, I would trust him to reduce the country's debt. I think he will be good for that job.

Chris Christie is the guy I wanna hang out with, among all the Republicans!

His a straight talker, I'm a straight talker. I know we are gonna get along! Chris Christie speaks differently from Cruz and Rubio who talks in circles.

Jeb and Carson will just talk me to sleep.

(PS: Respectmen, I am crushing on this chubby republican big time! Who says chubby men don't get fans!)

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/7/2016 11:40:34 PM   
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He had a good night. I will admit to watching him trip rubio up..more than 3 times...think its my favourite bit of all the debates

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/7/2016 11:44:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

He had a good night. I will admit to watching him trip rubio up..more than 3 times...think its my favourite bit of all the debates

I think his even better than Michelle Obama in "parental geeky" dancing! I loved this video! Shows his personality well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A2IXsB7C0Q

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/8/2016 12:29:20 AM   
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I looked at some christie's town hall meetings and his actually quite aggressive and intimidating to people who accuse him of negative things. Except, if people can get over the fierce aggressive tone, he was responding with alot of knowledge and facts. But tone always play a big part in conveying messages.

This might be one of the reasons his not gaining. Diplomacy needs work as much as it's frustrating to be accused of things that he felt was blatant lies, a president cannot talk so aggressively to people his welcoming feedback from.

Rubio and Cruz does speak more monotone, even in anger.

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/8/2016 5:46:04 AM   
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I finally finish watching the whole 8th debate.
I thought Trump is still the top guy, I mean, his the most central among them all, I mean he sits somewhere in the middle of left and right. Which is where I sit. I think he also has the best idea for the health care plan.
He called out the audiences for being donors. Great!

Kasich has always been like a very rational, neutral guy with sensible solutions, but some how, his just too nice to be President. He has a great track record and his sensible but lacks sparks.

Chris Christie destroyed Rubio, but...., he failed to tackle the issue of jobs and deficit problems of his state. Infact, I thought while he was really good praising Kasich but, it's funny when the issue was lack of job creation and how kasich successfully created more jobs, he accuse kasich for increasing government size, while he himself have fired 10,000 jobs within his own government, praising himself for reducing government spending. So instead of job creation, he has axed 10,000 job which added to the job deficit. Anyway..., I do believe he is trying to solve problems with solutions that he thinks is the best for the problem. Over all, a good guy, but I don't think his better than Trump. Although I like him.

Rubio and Cruz spend most of the night avoiding the actual questions and talking in circles as usual. And I can't believe how Rubio kept going on and on and on and on about Obama baaad. On like every single question. He sounded like a robot who went malfunction on repeat.

But then again in the last debate, I thought Cruz didn't do well, but he won anyway. So who knows, Rubio might win New Hampshire.

BTW, I remembered some time ago, I said something like, almost every American I've ever met, knows somebody who died of drug overdose. I was talking about the drug problem in the US. And then New Hampshire has statistics like 48% of their people knows someone who died from specifically heroin overdose.

I was accused of being completely ignorant about US, with my claims about drugs killing people there. And looks like, I wasn't that far off.

And the abortion issue. I support the Republicans but me and them can never agree on the abortion issue. First of all, they want to talk about innocent baby life being killed, and they wanna defend that innocent baby. Then they talk about supporting abortion for raped women or incest. My position is, I support whatever the mother wants to do with the foreign object in her tummy. That's my position. It's consistent and no double standard.

But I felt like puking listening to them say that all innocent baby lives are precious and needed defending, but YET a baby conceived from rape or incest, is no longer innocent, but apparently not worth saving. That is hypocrisy from their end and I think it's just religion clouding their brain. I have more respect if they stood firm consistently to say that all baby lives are equally precious. Because the mom's rape has nothing to do with the baby. The baby is innocent, which is true. How can they condemned any woman for aborting their baby WHEN they are okay with murdering innocent babies conceived from rape or incest? They have no right to bitch about any women murdering their babies.




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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/8/2016 6:34:05 AM   
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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/07/the-classiest-debate-moment-that-no-one-noticed-never-leave-a-good-man-down/

I was actually puzzled as to why Trump did not walk out when his name was called. But this explains everything and Good on Trump!

I love how Cruz just walked out and didn't show the same respect.

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/8/2016 7:32:31 AM   
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I like that explanation. Makes him sound like a decent guy. But then the same guy said he would bring back waterboarding and a hell of a lot worse. Fuck that two-faced fascist bastard.

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/9/2016 10:49:43 AM   
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A night of Republicans babbling complete bullshit; all the while not explaining what specifically they would do as an actual President.

The debates between Republicans and Democrats is very different. Republicans rely on 'one up-manships' and negative comments directed at their opponents. None of them explaining how they would handle the ACTUAL problems faced by the nation and its citizens. Meanwhile Democrats argue over concepts and ideas to improve the nation all over the place. Yes, they attack each other. But not in a personal way like the Republican nominees. They argue over 'how' the other person will accomplish a project given the often limited resources available.

I watch the Republican 'debates' with a bowl of popcorn and soda. Since I'm not expecting any of them to raise the bar above 'junior high school antics'. They have no ideas, no concepts, no real plans. They keep rehashing the same bullshit that failed over Republicans in 2008 and 2012 like its brand new stuff. Since their audience mainly consist of 'The Low Information Voter'. There really isn't a need for them to actually show a plan for combating any of the problems currently experienced in America. All in all, what is coming out of the Republican camp is really sad.

Its like comparing a high school students on a book report. The Democrat shows not only experience in having read the book, but adding material that would/should logically fit within. The Republican just expresses one useless and bullshit excuse after another for why they never started the book report let alone, finish it. The Tea Party student? Oh they are just foaming at the mouth, waving arms around, jumping and dancing, while spew irrational noise. The teacher gives the Democrat an A+, the Republican visits the principal's office....again. The Tea Party student is given a white jacket with long arms that tie in the back and sent to a school for 'special' students....

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/9/2016 12:15:59 PM   
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Ah the troll is back.

You think that *perhaps* having a couple hours to spend over two candidates - as opposed to 18- might change how in depth the campaign coverage might be? Ya think?

I've spoken with Marco. He is a moron. Telegenic, eager to please, nice guy, and he learns push button responses. In many ways - the perfect politician.
But I still cling to those outdated notions that intelligence means something.

I'd still vote for him over Shrillary and socialist, of course.

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RE: Republican debate number 8 - 2/9/2016 12:17:54 PM   
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Yeah, well, if you are looking for intelligence, you wont find a bit of it in the nutsucker lineup. Nutsuckers dont do intelligence.

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