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RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 4:12:18 PM   
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Oh, come on, you know I grew up in a country where the most dangerous thing you can ever come across (wildlife as well as plants) is a thistle.


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It's very interesting, historically, that LP first mentions sandals and then you mention thistles because sandals and thistles have all to do with the Scottish being Scotland (and which is why the thistle displays prominently on their official emblem as the royal symbol of Scotland)...


It was during the Battle of Largs in 1263 when Scotland was still part of the Kingdom of Norway, when barefoot or sandal-clad Norse invaders shrieked in pain after stepping on bull thistle while sneaking up on the Scottish Clansmen at night.

Now if you could only help me get rid of the damn stuff in my own yard!


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RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 4:29:02 PM   
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Now if you could only help me get rid of the damn stuff in my own yard!
(Apparently they have no known natural predator out here, I'm told, and, I find them worse than poison oak when it comes to pulling them out by the ruuts')





Get a goat. Goats love that stuff.
Just put a dog screw anchor in the ground with chain about 10 feet long, and move the anchor to a new spot every day.
Thistles will be the first thing they eat when they've got access to it. They love eating most every kind of weed (even poisonous ones) that other animals won't touch. If you've got enough weeds, they'll ignore grass and other typical grazing foods almost entirely.

Get an enclosure with water, additional feed, place to sleep, etc, for at night.

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PS: Ask me what's the cheapest most plentiful often most effective remedy for cleaning it off your body!


I know nothing of poison oak/ivy, but based on the fact that you said "oils" I'm going to guess it's milk.

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RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 4:49:52 PM   
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But everybody knows that Real Dommes™ always wear a pencil skirt, a blouse and open toe high heel shoes.


Oh oh ...
To truly be an authentic Real Domme™, must she always wear only open-toed shoes?


Most of the porn Dommes I deal daily with (mostly at night, while in bed, with the computer running) wear closed-toe shoes.

Oh oh ...
Does that... um... does that mean ... ooohh nooooo... in my fantasies ... they're actually not real dommes?


Can't we make an exception ... just this once ... for closed-toe pointy shoes?


Just once? Please?


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Yet another exception?

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RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:11:20 PM   
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Get a goat. Goats love that stuff.
Thistles will be the first thing they eat when they've got access to it. They love eating most every kind of weed (even poisonous ones) that other animals won't touch. If you've got enough weeds, they'll ignore grass and other typical grazing foods almost entirely.

Oh, I've got enough weeds, trust me on that!
I'm my own gardener, and, well, I'm behind on my list of "deferred maintenance" since I can't get anything done alone, being a social person ...
Plus, my yard is fenced completely, so, I could get a goat or few...


They might even eat the poison oak leaves down outside the fence!


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Just put a dog screw anchor in the ground with chain about 10 feet long, and move the anchor to a new spot every day.

Like this?


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I know nothing of poison oak/ivy, but based on the fact that you said "oils" I'm going to guess it's milk.


It's actually five things, four of which are extremely common around the house, but the most important ingredient is the base of...


  • Dawn or Palmolive dish detergent macromolecule surfactant (excellent for removing the urushiol sap oils, and gentle on skin)
  • A few drops of bleach (oxidizes the urushiol molecule)
  • A few drops of rubbing alcohol (helps as a wetting agent to get the soap in between the skin cells)
  • A squirt of toothpaste (which contains tiny grains of silicon dioxide sand, for scraping away the top layer of keratinized skin)
  • Nonoxenol-9 (a micro-molecule surfactant meant to disrupt sperm membranes that actually trades places with the oxidized urushiol quinone)

    Compare that chemical list above with the five ingredients of the $40 per ounce Technu Cream, for example...

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    This will be on the quiz: Do you know the "urushiol" isn't the problem; it's the fact that your body oxidizes the urushiol to a quinone which binds to skin receptor cells in such a way that your body throws cytokine "grenades" to wipe out the faux "invader", which never would have harmed us in the first place. So, the entire rash is merely the result of a nasty case of mistaken identity!

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:12:57 PM   
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    Status: offline     		You have half an hour tops after getting the poison ivy/oak/sumac oil on you to go shower with a bar of laundry soap like Fels Naptha
    Remember to wash the clothes you were wearing by themselves

    My oldest played tag with her god daughter barefoot this past summer, she ripped open her toe on something and badly dislocated it
    The community hospital couldn't fix it and suggested amputating it

    Instead she got transferred to the nearest big city hospital and had a pin put in it during the surgery to repair it, pin stayed in for six weeks and she's never going barefoot outdoors again

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:18:34 PM   
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    Get a goat. Goats love that stuff.
    Thistles will be the first thing they eat when they've got access to it. They love eating most every kind of weed (even poisonous ones) that other animals won't touch. If you've got enough weeds, they'll ignore grass and other typical grazing foods almost entirely.

    Oh, I've got enough weeds, trust me on that!
    I'm my own gardener, and, well, I'm behind on my list of "deferred maintenance" since I can't get anything done alone, being a social person
    Plus, my yard is fenced completely, so, I could get a goat or few...


    If you yard is fenced no need to worry about the chain. They'll leave almost all plants you actually want around alone.
    The worst they'll do unattended is climb on stuff you really don't want them on, or chew on plastic you've got laying around (if they don't have enough other stuff to get into, which I'm betting, in your case, isn't going to be an issue).

    Seriously, get a few goats. You'll never see another thistle again.
    My grandpa had them on his land, and while the neighbor's land had thistles several feet high, so thick together that they were crowding out the grass, us kids ran around with bare-feet all summer long.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:29:45 PM   
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    Plus, my yard is fenced completely, so, I could get a goat or few...



    Good luck keeping a goat (or few) in a fenced yard with no other containment.



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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:39:41 PM   
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    You have half an hour tops after getting the poison ivy/oak/sumac oil on you to go shower with a bar of laundry soap like Fels Naptha

    Very good. Very very good. You're right. I'm impressed.

    What happens while you're running around nekked playing paintball in sandals is the tiny urushiol alcohol (actually a catechol) molecule (it's just a simple benzene ring with a couple OH groups and a 15 to 17-carbon alkene radical on one vertex) lies on top of your layered squamous nekked skin and by capillary action, squeezes down in between the various porous layers of skin cells making it to the proteins under the top layer of skin.

    Once these otherwise-harmless catechols (now oxidized to quinones) bind to the proteins in your skin, the new combination of molecules "looks" like a dangerous invader (like a halloween costume of Darth Vader) and your body desperately throws cytokine grenades to kill the faux invader.

    Depending on the "quality" of your immune system, you really have from 15 minutes to about 4 days (rarely though) to scrub the malefactors out of your skin (which is where the spermicide comes in handy because it's soooooo small that it can sneak inside after the fact whereas the Palmolive/Dawn dish detergent generally only works in the first hours).



    BTW, it takes only a pinhead of the oily sap to infect something like thousands of people, the urushiol molecules are that small and effective.

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    Remember to wash the clothes you were wearing by themselves

    That's good advice, but, in my experience (and trust me, you probably don't know ANYONE who has been as covered in poison oak as much as I have been), it really doesn't matter. There's a LOT of bad advice on the web, for example (cold showers being one of them), but, while there's nothing wrong with washing clothes separate, my clothes are so covered in urushiol that they're stained (a certain color) with streaks and dots of the stuff.

    Even with my clothes literally streaked in that color, I can still wash your delicate undies in that wash, and you won't (in my experience) get the rash even on your sensitive petal parts. Typical laundry detergents are that good (I use the Costco Kirkland basic industrial stuff).

    BTW, here's an "experience" question to easily separate the fakes who 'claim' to be "covered" in poison oak:
    QUESTION: What "color" is poison oak/poison ivy when it gets on your clothes?

    HINT: If a person does not inherently know that answer, then they haven't been in poison oak or ivy all that much...


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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:47:03 PM   
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    If you yard is fenced no need to worry about the chain. They'll leave almost all plants you actually want around alone.

    I have a couple of acres fenced, and the rest is unfenced.
    The thistles are on the part I don't mow (it's rocky and hilly), along with Scotch Broom & Spanish Broom (which I'm slowly attempting to eradicate, the genocidal maniac that I have become).

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    The worst they'll do unattended is climb on stuff you really don't want them on, or chew on plastic you've got laying around (if they don't have enough other stuff to get into, which I'm betting, in your case, isn't going to be an issue).

    Some of my neighbors have goats, so, I'm actually very familiar with what they do to a yard.
    It's basically barren from the ground to about four or five feet up.

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    Seriously, get a few goats. You'll never see another thistle again.

    I saw a bobcat today though, but the goats of my neighbor, one by one, get eaten at night by the mountain lions whenever the dogs are inside (due to rain or sickness).
    So, you really can't have goats out here without also adding a guard dog of some type.

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    My grandpa had them on his land, and while the neighbor's land had thistles several feet high, so thick together that they were crowding out the grass, us kids ran around with bare-feet all summer long.


    Yup. The ground is basically bare wherever the goats are at my neighbor's residence.
    I just helped him plant some cherry trees, and we had to plant them OUTSIDE the fence, just so they'd have a chance to grow.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:48:25 PM   
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    OK, you see the woman riding on the guy's back? That's because she can't walk in the flipping shoes!

    Geez, I'd be typing to you people from the ER because I'd break my neck. For me, that's like walking on stilts and I am not coordinated in such things. (I loved it when they introduced the square heel.)

    I've heard goats, but when I lived in CA, it was sheep. I didn't know this, at first. One day, MP and I are sitting in the living room and I get up to investigate this noise I'm hearing from outside. (Our house was across from a hillside.) I couldn't say how many sheep there were, but I thought it was cool like no tomorrow. They hire them. (Well, the sheep owners, anyway.) They just do what sheep do and eat all of the vegetation.

    It's a thought.


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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 5:51:32 PM   
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    Good luck keeping a goat (or few) in a fenced yard with no other containment.

    One of my neighbors has a 9-foot fence with barbed wire (f'uuugly - but nobody can see it) but he's protecting his brand new Pinot Noire vineyard from the deer.

    The rest have normal height chain-link fences of about 4 to 5 feet, and the ones with goats don't seem to have a problem keeping the goats in.
    Their problem is keeping the mountain lions out, which, pretty much, is impossible by a fence where we are (because of trees being everywhere).

    As I said above, dogs work though, as I've helped drag and bury two goats in the past year alone, where the mountain lion gets the goat by the neck, drags it a hundred feet or so, when the bleating attracts the dogs, and then in the morning, we find the dogs sitting down next to the goat, guarding the carcass.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 6:04:38 PM   
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    OK, you see the woman riding on the guy's back? That's because she can't walk in the flipping shoes!

    I see. I see. Yes. I see. Who needs to walk?
    You Real Dommes™ do seem to have everything already figured out while riding those submissive boys around the yard ...


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    Geez, I'd be typing to you people from the ER because I'd break my neck. For me, that's like walking on stilts and I am not coordinated in such things. (I loved it when they introduced the square heel.)

    I'll bet you also loved the safety factor when they introduced the stirrup!


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    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    I've heard goats, but when I lived in CA, it was sheep. I didn't know this, at first. One day, MP and I are sitting in the living room and I get up to investigate this noise I'm hearing from outside. (Our house was across from a hillside.) I couldn't say how many sheep there were, but I thought it was cool like no tomorrow. They hire them. (Well, the sheep owners, anyway.) They just do what sheep do and eat all of the vegetation.
    It's a thought.


    Or, I can just hire this fantastic duo, where they guy can do all the grazing for me!

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 6:12:44 PM   
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    I saw a bobcat today though, but the goats of my neighbor, one by one, get eaten at night by the mountain lions whenever the dogs are inside (due to rain or sickness).
    So, you really can't have goats out here without also adding a guard dog of some type.



    Nah, you don't need a dog. You just get more goats.

    Mountain lions need to eat too.

    Put a motion sensor camera near the goats, and send me pics of the mountain lion.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 6:35:11 PM   
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    As I said above, dogs work though, as I've helped drag and bury two goats in the past year alone, where the mountain lion gets the goat by the neck, drags it a hundred feet or so, when the bleating attracts the dogs, and then in the morning, we find the dogs sitting down next to the goat, guarding the carcass.



    So, you get a llama to guard them. Llamas are also good at mowing, but won't eat the poisonous or spiky shit.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 7:12:44 PM   
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    So, you get a llama to guard them. Llamas are also good at mowing, but won't eat the poisonous or spiky shit.


    Funny you mention the Llamas, as the neighbor I know well with the goats has Alpaca.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 7:17:30 PM   
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    Mountain lions need to eat too.

    Don't tell the county, but I "compost" all my spare food outside.
    Actually, it's not really compost.
    I just throw it outside as far as I can throw it (I'm on a hill, so, it goes down out of sight).

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    Put a motion sensor camera near the goats, and send me pics of the mountain lion.

    Pretty much I get deer, bobcat, coyotes galore, once in a very rare while a fox, lots of rabbits and quail, cute but huge deer mice the size of rats (a foot long head to tip of tail), and only extremely rarely (like once every few years) a mountain lion that is visible to humans. I'm sure they're there all the time, but they pretty much stay away from humans.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 7:35:09 PM   
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    So, you get a llama to guard them. Llamas are also good at mowing, but won't eat the poisonous or spiky shit.


    Funny you mention the Llamas, as the neighbor I know well with the goats has Alpaca.


    Llamas are really good watch animals. Alpacas, not as much.

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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 7:49:11 PM   
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    You have half an hour tops after getting the poison ivy/oak/sumac oil on you to go shower with a bar of laundry soap like Fels Naptha
    Remember to wash the clothes you were wearing by themselves


    There is a product called Zanfel (see link below) for poison ivy, oak and sumac. It will instantly wash the itch away caused by urushiol. I have used it up to 2 days after contact with a 100% success. It will instantly stop the itch. Zanfel will bind with the urushiol and will be washed away. And the itch stops immediately. It is now a standard in my first aid kit for camping.

    http://www.zanfel.com/

    The downside to Zanfel is the price. A 1oz tube costs about $45. It is available as over the counter medicine. Most Walgreens and CVS Pharmacies carry it.




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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 8:08:24 PM   
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    Here's a CNN report of a "Bambi" Hunt:
  • Naked 'Bambi' hunts spur outrage
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    LAS VEGAS, Nevada (Reuters) -- Outraged by a Las Vegas company that claims to offer men a chance to stalk and shoot naked women in the Nevada desert with paintball guns, women's groups and government agencies were scrambling to find a way to shut down such "Bambi" hunts.

    "As soon as I found out about this, I called for an investigation," Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said. "Las Vegas is a place where anything goes, but this crosses the line if this is real."

    Real Men Outdoor Productions Inc., insists it is doing nothing illegal and only providing another variety of adult entertainment in a city celebrated for sin.


    Here's an ABC news report of the same Bambi Hunt, it seems:
  • Hunting Naked Women' Game Draws Outrage
    quote:


    Outdoorsmen spending $10,000 to hunt naked women with paintball guns — is it a joke or a genuine, albeit warped, business?

    Early Saturday morning, representatives of Real Men Outdoor Productions gathered with select reporters at a large undeveloped piece of land near a suburban Las Vegas housing development for a demonstration of their game, "Hunting for Bambi." ABC News Radio was the only U.S. broadcasting company in attendance.

    The company said it wanted to prove the game was not a hoax and didn't incite violence towards women.

    The organizers were more than an hour late for the 8:45 a.m. start time, but eventually two women were brought to the course. Each was promised $1,000 if they were hit with a paintball, $2,500 if they made it through the entire course without being shot, and a bonus of $100 for each of ten flags they were able to pick up along the course.

    The organizers later told reporters each would receive more than $2,500, regardless of the hunt's outcome, as a goodwill gesture.


    Then, a few more paragraphs about the hunt itself ... and then ...
    quote:


    Gimmick or not, "Hunting for Bambi" has drawn fire from outraged citizens of Las Vegas. Mayor Oscar Goodman complained it crossed the line of good taste, even for "Sin City." He has called for an investigation.

    Jodi Tyson, director of the Nevada Coalition Against Sexual Violence, called the hunts, "offensive, dangerous and exploitative."

    Real Men Outdoor Productions may also be in trouble with the federal government if the hunts took place without permits on private property. The U.S. Bureau of Land Management, which has jurisdiction on about 90 percent of Nevada land, is investigating whether the company has violated trespassing laws.


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    RE: Naked Paintball Hunt - 2/9/2016 8:16:31 PM   
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    Before anyone lambastes me, yes, I know it was a publicity stunt ...
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    The "hunts" of nude women were subsequently proven to be a hoax aimed at selling videotapes. Company owner Michael Burdick was cited by Las Vegas officials for doing business without a license.

  • Hunts of nude women draw fire

    BTW, if the women here wanted to get together to dress us men up in Rudolph's nose and fake antlers, I'd wager quite a few of us would show up as the prey for the event!


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