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bounty44 -> RE: Maine required people to do community service (2/12/2016 5:12:58 AM)
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
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So, yeah, the right to Life would seem to suggest the "right" to food, water, shelter, and healthcare.
And Article I, Section 8 makes it specifically the responsibility of the federal government to " provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States
what comrade Vincent is talking about are what are called "positive" rights. generally speaking, those who promote them are liberals and those positions are not articulated in our founding documents. our bill of rights for instance, enumerate what are called "negative rights." they articulate what the government CANNOT do concerning its citizens.
if you want some more reading on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights
while im here though---assuming for a moment your "general welfare" stance for the sake of argument:
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“The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit.”
that is a great depression era quote from fdr, one of the fathers of the welfare state.
and from the rest of the piece where I found it:
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What brings his words to mind is news that 41.8 million Americans are on food stamps, and the White House estimates 43 million will soon be getting food stamps every month.
If you would chart America’s decline, this program is a good place to begin. As a harbinger of the Great Society to come, in early 1964, a Food Stamp Act was signed into law by LBJ appropriating $75 million for 350,000 individuals in 40 counties and three U.S. cities.
Yet no one was starving. There had been no starvation since Jamestown, with such exceptions as the Donner Party caught in the Sierra Nevada in the winter of 1846-47, who took to eating their dead.
By the time [Nixon] left office in 1974, the food stamp program was feeding 16 million Americans at an annual cost of $4 billion.
Fast forward to 2009. The cost to taxpayers of the U.S. food stamp program hit $56 billion. The number of recipients and cost of the program exploded again last year.
Among the reasons is family disintegration. Forty percent of all children in America are now born out of wedlock. Among Hispanics, it is 51 percent. Among African-Americans, it is 71 percent.
Food stamps are feeding children abandoned by their own fathers. Taxpayers are taking up the slack for America’s deadbeat dads.
Have food stamps made America a healthier nation?...
What a changed country we have become in our expectations of ourselves. A less affluent America survived a Depression and world war without anything like the 99 weeks of unemployment insurance, welfare payments, earned income tax credits, food stamps, rent supplements, day care, school lunches and Medicaid we have today.
Public or private charity were thought necessary, but were almost always to be temporary until a breadwinner could find work or a family could get back on its feet. The expectation was that almost everyone, with hard work and by keeping the nose to the grindstone, could make his or her own way in this free society. No more.
What we have accepted today is a vast permanent underclass of scores of millions who cannot cope and must be carried by the rest of society — fed, clothed, housed, tutored, medicated at taxpayer’s expense for their entire lives. We have a new division in America: those who pay a double fare, and those who forever ride free.
We Americans are not only not the people our parents were, we are not the people we were. FDR was right about what would happen to the country if we did not get off the narcotic of welfare.
America has regrettably already undergone that “spiritual and moral disintegration, fundamentally destructive to the national fiber.”
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2010/10/07/food-stamp-nation/
so how does feeding people to their "spiritual and moral disintegration to the point of national fiber destruction" support the "general welfare" of the country?
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