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Lucylastic -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 11:21:41 AM)

And you just proved every single one of his points.



DesideriScuri -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 12:13:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crumpets
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
No we aren't.

Plus, there is this biological thing, which I'm sure I'll get in trouble just stating a simple example of...
If a woman's car breaks down, what does she do (in general)?
If a man's car breaks down, what does he do (in general)?


That's not biological. That's societal. And, that's changing, which is good.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
There is still too much racism (even "reverse racism" is racism).

Heh heh... I admit, where I live, if a black person, for example, were to be seen within a few miles, the police would be called; but that's more a function of standing out than anything else.


Um, that's racism. The only reason that person is "standing out" is because of skin color. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
suspect there is still too much sexism.

I haven't see that here, other than the innate sexism that the mothers and women fawn over the young girls and tell them oh so very sickening ... "oh, your're so pretty!".
The fathers, for the most part, expect the boys to be bloodied and to look disheveled and to have holes in their knees of their jeans and to fall off the rope bridge into the raging waters below every once in a while to see if they can survive.
...


See how society brings kids up differently?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
There is too much discrimination against GLBT's.

I have a thread on this somewhere, but the GLBT's are, IMHO, some of the MOST RACIST bastards on this planet.
They don't care one bit about EQUALITY.
They're all, to a man or woman, absolutely and utterly incorrigibly selfish bastards. (proof on file).
For them, it's all racist selfish laws that PROTECT them (but do NOTHING whatsoever for EQUALITY).
But, that's the topic of a different thread.


It's rare to find a group that has been discriminated against not trying to discriminate "in their favor." It's part of the "victim mentality," I think.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
There isn't enough of MLK's "content of their character" being the most important factor.

MLK was despicable. No better than Jessie Jackson's criminal son. But that's a topic for another story and another thread...
(PS: Kennedy was despicable too. All men in power become despicable. Don't even get me started on how power corrupts absolutely...)


Think what you want about MLK or JFK, it matters not to me. As ironic as it would have been, had David Duke uttered that phrase, it wouldn't be any less worthy of attaining.



crumpets -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 3:19:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
That's not biological. That's societal. And, that's changing, which is good.


The funniest thing happened about a year ago. My neighbor's husband died and she had to work and she asked me to pick up her kids so I arrived at the school early and I watched this mother wearing a bright pink shirt fawn all over the little girls (it was all girls), who were dressed in similar pink shirts.

Then a man showed up in the same shirt. One man. So, I sidled up to him, while I was waiting for the kids to get out of detention (long story on that) and asked "what's up with the shirts?".

I was floored by his answer.
Literally he told me that he was "empowering young girls" for something like making their own decisions, by having a girls team for running. He said girls don't get a chance to be on sports, or something like that.

Silly me, I told him I just watched the idiotic other adult fawn all over the little girls, which was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what their stated purpose was.

Wouldn't you know it.
He says "That's my wife!".

Heh heh ... they were clueless.
Still are I'm sure.

It's the same with Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright.
They say one thing but do the other.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Um, that's racism. The only reason that person is "standing out" is because of skin color.

Yup.
But whose fault is it?
They say one thing but do another.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
See how society brings kids up differently?

Yup.
But whose fault is it?
They say one thing but do another.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
It's rare to find a group that has been discriminated against not trying to discriminate "in their favor."
It's part of the "victim mentality," I think.

Truer words were probably never spoken.
They say one thing but do another.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Think what you want about MLK or JFK, it matters not to me. As ironic as it would have been, had David Duke uttered that phrase, it wouldn't be any less worthy of attaining.

Unfortunately, power corrupts.
MLK and Kennedy were no different than any other man.
They say one thing but do another.

My favorite power-hungry asshole was MacArthur; but that's a story for another tirade.



PeonForHer -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 3:38:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: crumpets
Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys".
She was arguing why the younger women went for Bernie over Hilliary, so, even though she said it jokingly, she clearly meant it in support of her argument.
I watched the Bill Maher video, and read the news, and, well, it's just one of those things that you'd never think "she'd" say.
She also said:
  • Men gain power as they age ... while ...
  • Women lose power as they age.
    Although she didn't explain her thought process on that one.
    REFERENCES:
  • Gloria Steinem: Young women back Sanders so they can meet 'boys'
  • Gloria Steinem on Millennial women and Bernie Sanders: That's where the boys are
  • Gloria Steinem says young women support Bernie Sanders because 'that's where the boys are'
    (and many more).
    Watch the video clip:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr1qLVSOe7c


    • That younger women aren't voting for Hillary simply along gender lines is rubbing them the wrong way.

    IMO, voting for Clinton because she's a woman is just as bad as voting against her because she's a woman.

    Is there a vast belief that a woman (in general) isn't qualified to be President because of gender? If there was, I could see a point in voting for Clinton because she's female (she is, technically, as qualified as Sanders to be President); proves that a female is fit to be President.

    If women aren't voting for Hillary, could it be that she's unpopular among women? Could it be that her politics, and/or her "body of work" are unpopular? Could it be that she's seen as less trustworthy as Sanders?

    In America, we need to get to that point where skin color, gender anatomy, gender identity, and all the other inconsequential categorical data isn't used for or against a person.



    I don't think I've seen a post of yours with which I agree more, DS. Myself, I'm fine with a female Prime Minister here in the UK. But those nascent feminists who voted for Thatcher here in Britain in 79 were utterly sold down the river. Thatcher did nothing for women and *hated* feminists. 'Vote for Hillary because she's a woman' is, to me, the most stupid argument I've seen to come out of this campaign (and that's against some pretty damned stiff competition for stupid arguments, to my mind).



    crumpets -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 4:15:44 PM)


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    ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
    'Vote for Hillary because she's a woman' is, to me, the most stupid argument I've seen to come out of this campaign (and that's against some pretty damned stiff competition for stupid arguments, to my mind).


    Here's the question though.

    Since they're politicians, you never know if they are telling the truth accidentally, or if they're fibbing the whole time.

    Do you think that Madeleine REALLY thinks women should just vote for Hilliary because of her gender?
    (I mean, she SAID that, for sure; but does she really BELIEVE that?)

    There's been no apology, as far as I know, other than an explanation by Hilliary that Madeleine has been saying the same thing for 25 years (which is one odd "explanation" if you ask me, for someone who is supposedly trying to CHANGE the way things are done in the past 25 years).

    At least with Gloria, she published a retraction.

    Still, we know what Gloria SAID, and it fit her ARGUMENT (despite a cleverly crafted apology) which was that young women flocked to Bernie because the "boys" were there (presumably they wanted the power that the boys had?).

    Given that Gloria said women lose power as they age while men gain power, what do you make of that statement?
    |I wasn't sure WHAT she meant by that (since I know of PLENTY of powerful women who run companies that men don't run).



    Aylee -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 4:40:52 PM)


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    ORIGINAL: crumpets

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    ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
    That's not biological. That's societal. And, that's changing, which is good.


    The funniest thing happened about a year ago. My neighbor's husband died and she had to work and she asked me to pick up her kids so I arrived at the school early and I watched this mother wearing a bright pink shirt fawn all over the little girls (it was all girls), who were dressed in similar pink shirts.

    Then a man showed up in the same shirt. One man. So, I sidled up to him, while I was waiting for the kids to get out of detention (long story on that) and asked "what's up with the shirts?".

    I was floored by his answer.
    Literally he told me that he was "empowering young girls" for something like making their own decisions, by having a girls team for running. He said girls don't get a chance to be on sports, or something like that.

    Silly me, I told him I just watched the idiotic other adult fawn all over the little girls, which was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what their stated purpose was.

    Wouldn't you know it.
    He says "That's my wife!".

    Heh heh ... they were clueless.
    Still are I'm sure.




    Hmmm. . .

    This year "Pink Shirt Day," is on the 24th of this month for my children's school. It is an anti-bullying thing.

    2 of the 3 will be participating and I will also wear a pink shirt that day [:'(].

    I find your attitude towards the parents bullying. They are actually trying to do something positive and you are just nasty about it.

    Yep, little kids get fawned over. They like attention. My four year old boy makes CERTAIN that you admire his shoes. And he has more than one pair.



    epiphiny43 -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 6:13:22 PM)

    Gloria made an accurate observation that holds for most years since modern urbanization and all cities on the planet. Any urban area averages close to 55% female. This is not from birth rate, it's from economic and 'social' migration. Almost all rural areas reflect opposite sex ratios. Men stay home more than women do. The ones who do chase success in the city marry back home more than women do. Women seem to look for actual employment opportunities and potential mates that are far more qualified than those in largely declining areas where they grew up, particularly if rural. "Something has to be better than these clowns I grew up with!"
    It's been studied that the majority of men marry someone living within a quarter of a mile at introduction. Women are more practical finding a 'support system' for their offspring, and proactive in finding a mate. Men put the same or more energy in to finding short term pussy. Even in still largely traditional societies like India, the pattern holds. Everybody chases the jobs, women do so more as there are almost zero real opportunities in rural or small towns.

    Hillary's error is in thinking she has the liberal and female voter nailed, and like any realistic modern politician in a National campaign (As opposed to the Through the Looking Glass world of Republican primaries), is chasing the small 'undecided' segment of the Center. She neglects to recognize Obama promised Change, who like Clinton, moved strongly to the Center to get Anything done. The urge of Millenials, and any other intelligent patriot,for a government that has an unpoliticized, transparent and efficient bureaucracy, particularly the AG, FDA and EPA departments, is unrealized. Which leaves people Pissed.
    Most are unaware one of Obama's most egregious mistakes was not fighting for more balanced and timely judicial appointments, which dooms us to another generation of Right Wing crap judicial decisions when we desperately need creative and realistic Non-ideological solutions to novel situations facing not only the US, but Mankind.
    Bernie is speaking Truth to Power and about the abuses of the financial elite. Hillary is placating both looking for dollars. Same 'ole crap doesn't get the enthusiasm as a real determination to solve all the incredibly complex situations facing all of us. Femininist or not, everyone wants an actually effective president, in tune with the realities of 2016. Whatever Bernie's limitations, it's not failure to understand we have to address critical long term problems. Short term solutions to whatever the media has the uneducated populace upset about only aggravates everything wrong now. Trump is the classic dog and pony show distracting the rubes from the real choices we have to make to decide the future of Western Civilization, if not the planet. Staged largely by the Media to keep the financial interests out of the campaign and the various phony issues front and center. The Right claims the media are Liberal, but ALL the owners are monstrously wealthy and keep attention on items other than how they got that way, and what sustains their process. It's like Theodore Roosevelt never happened.



    stef -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 6:52:03 PM)


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    ORIGINAL: crumpets

    I have NEVER once seen a case of sexism in my entire career in the Silicon Valley (spanning decades).

    I'm sure you have, you just might not have recognized it with your surgically implanted blinders. Reality seems to have a very difficult time making it through to your brain via your optic nerves.



    crumpets -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 9:22:27 PM)

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    ORIGINAL: Aylee
    Yep, little kids get fawned over. They like attention. My four year old boy makes CERTAIN that you admire his shoes. And he has more than one pair.


    It wasn't little "kids"; it was little girls.
    And, what the mother was doing was clearly telling the little girls, in effect, that 'what's important" is to be "pretty".

    There's nothing wrong with that message, but then, to say the problem is that "girls don't have confidence" (or whatever exactly it was the father told me - at the time I was floored by his statements because they were in total and stark contrast to his wife's actions).

    Am I the only one who sees the problem here with where the parents think the problem is?

    HINT: The problem isn't in the 'little girls'; and it's not going to be "fixed" by fixing the little girls.



    Aylee -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 10:29:55 PM)


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    ORIGINAL: crumpets

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    ORIGINAL: Aylee
    Yep, little kids get fawned over. They like attention. My four year old boy makes CERTAIN that you admire his shoes. And he has more than one pair.


    It wasn't little "kids"; it was little girls.
    And, what the mother was doing was clearly telling the little girls, in effect, that 'what's important" is to be "pretty".

    There's nothing wrong with that message, but then, to say the problem is that "girls don't have confidence" (or whatever exactly it was the father told me - at the time I was floored by his statements because they were in total and stark contrast to his wife's actions).

    Am I the only one who sees the problem here with where the parents think the problem is?

    HINT: The problem isn't in the 'little girls'; and it's not going to be "fixed" by fixing the little girls.


    Little girls AND little boys get fawned over and like to be complimented on their clothing choices. Especially if they made their own clothing choices.



    Greta75 -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/12/2016 10:43:37 PM)

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    ORIGINAL: crumpets
    She was arguing why the younger women went for Bernie over Hilliary, so, even though she said it jokingly, she clearly meant it in support of her argument.


    Jokes aside, I think the problem with the image of Hillary is, she forgave her husband for cheating. That is not the action of an empowered modern women who will not take shit from her man! On top of that, when other women came forward to claim some other sexual things happened with Bill, I mean, with monica, it was no question, but despite that, she condemned the other women for their claims and waive it off as false.

    I think that damaged her as a female role model for females big time.

    While I personally will also forgive my man for cheating, most probably, but that's because I'm okay with open relationships, and cheating isn't to me, like the worst offence he could commit.

    But in the vanilla world, they just love to see strong powerful woman accept no excuse for cheating and dump the guy and move on. To show that she will be fine with or without him.

    I think that will always be a stain on her record as a female role-model. And that's why she gets no female support.



    Lucylastic -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/13/2016 1:22:42 AM)

    twenty years after the event and people are still blaming her for not kicking him out...as a reason for her not being a strong woman.


    LMFAO






    DesideriScuri -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/13/2016 7:54:19 AM)

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    ORIGINAL: crumpets
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    ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
    Um, that's racism. The only reason that person is "standing out" is because of skin color.

    Yup.
    But whose fault is it?
    They say one thing but do another.


    What?!? It's whoever's fault that is discriminating based on skin color. "Standing out" isn't a crime. Being a black person in a predominantly white area isn't a crime. I went to see a movie with my best friend (who is black) and my older brother. It was "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" by the Wayans brothers. It was (and still is) hilarious. The theater was at least 75% full and my brother and I were the only white people there. Should police have been called on us? Should the police have been called when my Dad's black secretary and her husband were the only two black people that showed up to my paternal grandfather's funeral?

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    ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
    See how society brings kids up differently?

    Yup.
    But whose fault is it?
    They say one thing but do another.


    Whose fault is it?!? It's society's fault, in general, and the parents' fault more specifically.

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    ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
    Think what you want about MLK or JFK, it matters not to me. As ironic as it would have been, had David Duke uttered that phrase, it wouldn't be any less worthy of attaining.

    Unfortunately, power corrupts.
    MLK and Kennedy were no different than any other man.
    They say one thing but do another.
    My favorite power-hungry asshole was MacArthur; but that's a story for another tirade.


    How about reacting to the sentiment rather than to the speaker. You know, the message, not the messenger?



    satanscharmer -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/13/2016 7:59:39 AM)

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    ORIGINAL: Greta75

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    ORIGINAL: crumpets
    She was arguing why the younger women went for Bernie over Hilliary, so, even though she said it jokingly, she clearly meant it in support of her argument.


    Jokes aside, I think the problem with the image of Hillary is, she forgave her husband for cheating. That is not the action of an empowered modern women who will not take shit from her man! On top of that, when other women came forward to claim some other sexual things happened with Bill, I mean, with monica, it was no question, but despite that, she condemned the other women for their claims and waive it off as false.

    I think that damaged her as a female role model for females big time.

    While I personally will also forgive my man for cheating, most probably, but that's because I'm okay with open relationships, and cheating isn't to me, like the worst offence he could commit.

    But in the vanilla world, they just love to see strong powerful woman accept no excuse for cheating and dump the guy and move on. To show that she will be fine with or without him.

    I think that will always be a stain on her record as a female role-model. And that's why she gets no female support.



    Aside from the fact that I don't see a correlation between her choosing to stay with her husband and her not being strong...

    Somehow I doubt this has anything to do with anything, especially with millenials who were probably too young to care when that all went down. I'm sure that is the furthest thing from their mind. I believe that most women that are voting for Sanders and not Hillary, especially millenials, are simply sick of the same politicians we see year after year. Sanders offers something different. Either they like his ideas, or they just dislike Hillary's.



    Marini -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/14/2016 10:44:59 AM)

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    ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

    Gloria made an accurate observation that holds for most years since modern urbanization and all cities on the planet. Any urban area averages close to 55% female. This is not from birth rate, it's from economic and 'social' migration. Almost all rural areas reflect opposite sex ratios. Men stay home more than women do. The ones who do chase success in the city marry back home more than women do. Women seem to look for actual employment opportunities and potential mates that are far more qualified than those in largely declining areas where they grew up, particularly if rural. "Something has to be better than these clowns I grew up with!"
    It's been studied that the majority of men marry someone living within a quarter of a mile at introduction. Women are more practical finding a 'support system' for their offspring, and proactive in finding a mate. Men put the same or more energy in to finding short term pussy. Even in still largely traditional societies like India, the pattern holds. Everybody chases the jobs, women do so more as there are almost zero real opportunities in rural or small towns.

    Hillary's error is in thinking she has the liberal and female voter nailed, and like any realistic modern politician in a National campaign (As opposed to the Through the Looking Glass world of Republican primaries), is chasing the small 'undecided' segment of the Center. She neglects to recognize Obama promised Change, who like Clinton, moved strongly to the Center to get Anything done. The urge of Millenials, and any other intelligent patriot,for a government that has an unpoliticized, transparent and efficient bureaucracy, particularly the AG, FDA and EPA departments, is unrealized. Which leaves people Pissed.
    Most are unaware one of Obama's most egregious mistakes was not fighting for more balanced and timely judicial appointments, which dooms us to another generation of Right Wing crap judicial decisions when we desperately need creative and realistic Non-ideological solutions to novel situations facing not only the US, but Mankind.
    Bernie is speaking Truth to Power and about the abuses of the financial elite. Hillary is placating both looking for dollars. Same 'ole crap doesn't get the enthusiasm as a real determination to solve all the incredibly complex situations facing all of us. Femininist or not, everyone wants an actually effective president, in tune with the realities of 2016. Whatever Bernie's limitations, it's not failure to understand we have to address critical long term problems. Short term solutions to whatever the media has the uneducated populace upset about only aggravates everything wrong now. Trump is the classic dog and pony show distracting the rubes from the real choices we have to make to decide the future of Western Civilization, if not the planet. Staged largely by the Media to keep the financial interests out of the campaign and the various phony issues front and center. The Right claims the media are Liberal, but ALL the owners are monstrously wealthy and keep attention on items other than how they got that way, and what sustains their process. It's like Theodore Roosevelt never happened.

    Another great post!!
    It's not just the millenials who are NOT interested in voting for Hillary.
    Big mistake thinking women would automatically vote for her.
    Many people are beyond fed up and Bernie and Donald, both represent an extreme change in the country.



    crumpets -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/14/2016 3:29:56 PM)


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    ORIGINAL: Marini
    It's not just the millenials who are NOT interested in voting for Hillary.


    While I control nothing but my own posts, I didn't want this discussion to devolve into your basic "vote for Hilliary" or "vote for Bernie" "Hilliary is great" "Bernie is great" "Hilliary stinks" "Bernie stinks" discussion (Lord knows, there are PLENTY of those threads already).

    This thread was really about how PEOPLE THINK.

    My comment about the pink-shirted mom-and-pop team decrying that "little girls don't feel empowered" was not that they weren't doing some good by running a girls'-only track team - but that they said one thing (they said they ran the track team to empower girls) and then they did the complete opposite "ooooh.... you loook sooooo preeeettty!".

    Let me tell you, a football coach never tells his "soldiers", oh, you look so pretty. Not any basketball coach would say that either. No wresting coach on the planet would say that either. (And the list goes on.)

    Do you see why what Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright said is, essentially, the same thing?

    What Gloria says: "Women are equal to men in the working world".
    What Gloria (apparently) thinks: "Women just go for where the boys' money is".

    What Gloria says: "Women are equal to men"
    What Gloria (apparently) thinks: "Women naturally use their sex as their power so naturally that decreases as they age".

    What Madeleine says: "Women are equal to men in politics".
    What Madeleine (apparently) thinks: "Women should vote purely by gender because they can't win any other way".

    Is it just me?
    Or do others see these two iconic ladies say one thing but actually do another?



    Greta75 -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/15/2016 4:34:17 AM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
    twenty years after the event and people are still blaming her for not kicking him out...as a reason for her not being a strong woman.
    LMFAO

    It's just reality. Women admire women who leave their boyfriends/spouses for cheating.

    It's really seen as a woman empowerment thing. So I'm more certain than ever now, Hillary will not be the next President.

    I hope to see a woman President some day, but I don't think she's gonna be the one who can make it happen.




    Greta75 -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/15/2016 4:37:34 AM)

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    ORIGINAL: satanscharmer
    Somehow I doubt this has anything to do with anything, especially with millenials who were probably too young to care when that all went down.

    Are you kidding? It seem to be big news these days that Bill Clinton is being compared to Bill Cosby these days, except they are questioning why is it an outrage when Bill Cosby was accosting young women, but when Bill Clinton did it. Hillary condemned the women who came out and accused Bill of unacceptable behaviour.

    The young people are reading these things! Whenever a woman stands by her alleged sex predator husband, it's not gonna look good on her as a strong empowered modern women who will protect women's rights.





    Greta75 -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/15/2016 4:44:42 AM)

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    What Madeleine says: "Women are equal to men in politics".
    What Madeleine (apparently) thinks: "Women should vote purely by gender because they can't win any other way".

    I just read an article on the physical New York Times International Edition today that Madeleine wrote an apology for saying that, and she actually regrets what she said, as yea, she admits now everybody thinks, she's encouraging people to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. She said the comment was at a bad time, and she shouldn't have said something like this at a time where a woman is running for President. So she knows, she didn't say something right.



    Cell -> RE: Gloria Steinem literally said Millenial Women support Bernie over Hilliary to "meet boys". (2/15/2016 4:50:53 AM)

    I think there was also a statement sometime along the lines of 'Females that don't vote for Hillary deserve to go to hell...' Politics makes me laugh.



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