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vincentML -> SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 3:15:37 AM)
Article II of the Constitution declares that the president SHALL appoint a new Justice. Obama briefly remarked in his Scalia speech that the president must fulfill his constitutional duty. The argument Republicans will likely make to do that is less about a somewhat-arcane parliamentary tradition and more about whether it's fair to consider a life-time judicial nominee by a lame-duck president before such a pivotal presidential election. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) appeared to say just that in a statement Saturday night. "The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice," his statement read. "Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President.” More than a conundrum but a political war appears on the horizon. Both sides are committed. And then there are the primaries and election ramifications to consider. I believe Obama has to nominate. Some people on TV have suggested the nominee should be acceptable to a consensus of both sides. Dream on. I doubt that is possible. On the other hand, the time is ripe for Obama to make a bold move. In my opinion he should appoint someone with huge standing among the American people and make it difficult for the Senate to sit on its ass until November. One possibility would be Bill Clinton, a choice, however, filled with pitfalls. Another bold move would be to nominate someone to reward his black constituency. Best, a highly qualified and highly popular black woman. (The appointee need not even be a lawyer, I believe) This would be a remarkable and extremely bold move to cement his heritage. Who might qualify? Michelle Obama, maybe? Your thoughts and challenges are welcome.

MasterBrentC -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 3:48:29 AM)
Bill Clinton? Seriously? A man who purgured himself before a federal judge and had his law license revoked, that's the man you want sitting on the supreme court? The only United States president to ever be impeached. You want that guy on the supreme court? Seriously?

lovmuffin -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 5:40:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC Bill Clinton? Seriously? A man who purgured himself before a federal judge and had his law license revoked, that's the man you want sitting on the supreme court? The only United States president to ever be impeached. You want that guy on the supreme court? Seriously? Yeah but which suggestion should you take more or less seriously ? Michelle ?? Too funny, I think he's just joking.

bounty44 -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 6:36:12 AM)
quote: One factor particularly key for a Republican return to the White House: the Supreme Court is getting old. If any members were to pass, it would be much preferable to have a conservative-dominated Court to prevent any unfortunately verdicts (such as Obamacare) and halt executive over-reach. Scalia’s death happened before a change in administrations, and that’s prompting many Republican leaders to speak out forcefully about giving Obama the chance to nominate a new justice. Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have already asserted that the next president, not Obama, fill the job. “We owe it to him, and the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement,” Cruz tweeted. Said Rubio: “The next president must nominate a justice who will continue Justice Scalia’s unwavering belief in the founding principles that we hold dear.” In reality, Obama would have a hard time getting a nominee confirmed by the GOP-controlled Senate. The implication from Cruz and Rubio — and McConnell — seemed to be that he shouldn’t even bother to try... Both of Texas’ senators, Cruz and John Cornyn, the deputy majority leader, serve on the Judiciary Committee, which screens nominees to the high court and lower federal benches. We’re safe for now – and the good news is that while we hold a majority in the Senate, even a Hillary or a Bernie wouldn’t be able to nominee an activist judge of their choice. http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/02/breaking-senates-response-to-scalias-death-has-obama-livid/ one wonders to what extent Scalia's passing will help motivate more republicans and conservatives to vote.

DesideriScuri -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 6:53:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Article II of the Constitution declares that the president SHALL appoint a new Justice. Obama briefly remarked in his Scalia speech that the president must fulfill his constitutional duty. ... I believe Obama has to nominate. Some people on TV have suggested the nominee should be acceptable to a consensus of both sides. Dream on. I doubt that is possible. On the other hand, the time is ripe for Obama to make a bold move. In my opinion he should appoint someone with huge standing among the American people and make it difficult for the Senate to sit on its ass until November. One possibility would be Bill Clinton, a choice, however, filled with pitfalls. Another bold move would be to nominate someone to reward his black constituency. Best, a highly qualified and highly popular black woman. (The appointee need not even be a lawyer, I believe) This would be a remarkable and extremely bold move to cement his heritage. Who might qualify? Michelle Obama, maybe? Your thoughts and challenges are welcome. 1. Yes, he should nominate someone. 2. I'd prefer someone who isn't an ideologue. 3. Bill Clinton?!? Seriously? 4. Michelle Obama?!? That's even more ridiculous than nominating Bill Clinton! Remember, this was the woman who wasn't proud of her country until her husband was elected President. I can't even imagine how incredibly discriminatory she'd act.

Knightimequiet -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:05:22 AM)
Honestly it is very simple. Obama has the power to nominate and the Senate has the power to say no to any of his nominees. That leaves us at dead lock until January 3rd, 2017 when the current term of the Senate expires to welcome and reorganize for its new members. That give Obama about 2 weeks to announce a recess appointment. It would be legal but ethnically against the traditional role of the President. What needs to occur is another more liberal justice like Ginsburg to tell the President that it was wrong to make this a political issue while her friend's body is not even cold yet. That is why I will retire the very day the next President takes office because the Supreme Court is meant not to be a political tool but a place where the rule of law and our Constitution takes priority and not your legacy. That would be a fitting result and tribute to Scalia.

Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:25:07 AM)
ethnically??? not ethically? Neither party will let the grass grow under their feet and things will get uglier. Obama should appoint someone else, the fact that it wont go anywhere doesnt mean obstruction is going to work either way. No GOP conservative/republican, right winger etc is going to pass a liberal judge, How many confirmations have they blocked in the past 7 years? They have been the party of no, obstruction and ignorance since 2008 Ethics in politics....Fuck what a joke. And if anyone thinks this isnt going to bring out dems, libs and other people to vote, you have way to much faith in the rw. Im waiting till someone mentions holder...(winking at Vincent)

Knightimequiet -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:30:59 AM)
You are obviously not versed nor accredited in history. You are letting you passion govern your argument which is a sign of someone knows very little about the subject and prefer to insight anger.

MasterBrentC -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:33:13 AM)
Lucy, you are so sadly mistaken. Obama and the dumbocrats have gotten EVERYTHING that they've wanted for the past 7 years. The G.O.P. has done NOTHING to stop any of this. That's why America is so fucked up right now. Hopefully the next President will have the courage to tell the libturds and dumbocrats to go pound sand up their ass and shut the fuck up.

Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:34:10 AM)
incite....not insight. You are making assumptions but carry on...but you made it personal...not me. now as you obviously have nothing but stupid to offer, you can go on hide.

Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:36:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC Lucy, you are so sadly mistaken. Obama and the dumbocrats have gotten EVERYTHING that they've wanted for the past 7 years. The G.O.P. has done NOTHING to stop any of this. That's why America is so fucked up right now. Hopefully the next President will have the courage to tell the libturds and dumbocrats to go pound sand up their ass and shut the fuck up. Oh I am? Sorry dood you are the one that comes her with nothing but bullshit...no links no insight, no chance of truth... bye bye

MasterBrentC -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:47:47 AM)
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't know you needed a link to point out what everyone in America has been going through for the past 7 years. If you need something from the internet, and we all know everything on the Internet is true, then you obviously have not been paying attention. America -- 19 trillion dollars in debt. America -- 94 million Americans out of work. America -- millions of illegal aliens flooding the country. America -- Syrian Muslim refugees allowed in while Syrian Christians are kept out. I can go on and on and on.

Knightimequiet -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:48:24 AM)
Oops incite damn auto correct! Lol! Everyone need to chill. Look at history and understand that because you can do a thing does not mean it's right, ethical, or necessary.

subrob1967 -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:55:53 AM)
If Obama was smart (which is questionable) he'd nominate Sri Srinivasan. But my guess is Sri isn't progressive enough for this President.

Knightimequiet -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 7:57:23 AM)
Wow! I guess I touched a nerve and I got nailed on my spelling. But ironically your spelling is just as bad. Plus you made my point about letting your passion govern your argument. Debate 101, know your facts, the players, and the plausible outcomes. Seriously, no need for the hate.

dcnovice -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 8:04:54 AM)
quote: libturds and dumbocrats Usually one has to go to a schoolyard to find this level of political wit.

dcnovice -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 8:36:22 AM)
FR But the GOP might soon reconsider if they see the implications of refusing to allow Obama to replace Scalia: A divided court leaves lower court rulings in place. And the lower courts are blue. Nine of the 13 U.S. Courts of Appeals have a majority of Democratic appointees. That means liberal rulings conservatives were hoping the Supreme Court would overturn remain law. So if Scalia had cast the deciding vote on a case before he died, but the court rehears it and divides 4 to 4, that would leave the lower court decision in place. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/02/13/if-republicans-block-obamas-supreme-court-nomination-he-wins-anyway/

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 8:56:13 AM)
Of course he should, it's his job to do so.

DesideriScuri -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 8:57:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC America -- 94 million Americans out of work. How has this misleading fact not been corrected? I'm not disputing the 94M figure of people being out of work, but is that really a problem in the economy? https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/ 7/1/2014 population estimate: 318M 7/1/2014 persons 65 years or older, percent: 14.5% That means, on 7/1/2014, the estimated # of people 65 or older was 46.1M That 94M people out of work figure includes 46.1M people over the age of 65. How many of those 46M actually are looking for work, or are willing to work? I guaran-damn-tee you it's not 46M. How many people, out of the, roughly, 36.5% people over the age of 16 who aren't participating in the workforce aren't participating because they have freely chosen not to? There aren't 94M people "out of work" who want to or are willing to work. While it might, technically, be true that 94M people are not in the workforce, to blame the President or the economy for it is grossly misleading.

joether -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/14/2016 9:16:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Article II of the Constitution declares that the president SHALL appoint a new Justice. Obama briefly remarked in his Scalia speech that the president must fulfill his constitutional duty. The argument Republicans will likely make to do that is less about a somewhat-arcane parliamentary tradition and more about whether it's fair to consider a life-time judicial nominee by a lame-duck president before such a pivotal presidential election. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) appeared to say just that in a statement Saturday night. "The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice," his statement read. "Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President.” More than a conundrum but a political war appears on the horizon. Both sides are committed. And then there are the primaries and election ramifications to consider. I believe Obama has to nominate. Some people on TV have suggested the nominee should be acceptable to a consensus of both sides. Dream on. I doubt that is possible. On the other hand, the time is ripe for Obama to make a bold move. In my opinion he should appoint someone with huge standing among the American people and make it difficult for the Senate to sit on its ass until November. One possibility would be Bill Clinton, a choice, however, filled with pitfalls. Another bold move would be to nominate someone to reward his black constituency. Best, a highly qualified and highly popular black woman. (The appointee need not even be a lawyer, I believe) This would be a remarkable and extremely bold move to cement his heritage. Who might qualify? Michelle Obama, maybe? Your thoughts and challenges are welcome. I have a better idea. Someone whom most of the American public like (thus making it tough on conservatives in the senate particularly during a general election year): President Obama steps down from the Oval Office. Which places Joe Biden as President. Joe Biden nominates former US President Barrack Obama as a US Supreme Court Justice during an ACTUAL Senate recess (one in which the GOP can not fuck-around-with-the-rules). The high court gains a Constitutional Scholar with high grades from Harvard University whom has served in two other branches of the federal system. He would be a defender of the common people (unlike all those Republican appointments). An make sure no cases fuck around with the ACA; just as Scalia made sure nothing fucked around with the pro-NRA version of the 2nd amendment (i.e. the corruption of the 2nd). An yes, Obama or Biden could make the appointment. If it was 'OK' for Ronald Reagan (a Republican) to appoint someone in his last year of office; then it is equally 'OK' for Obama/Biden to do the same.

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