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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 10:07:05 PM

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Anal.

Technically, that works too! And I know some ladies that can't cum from vagina penetration but only anal penetration. Lucky them! No contraceptive needed ever!

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 11:11:47 PM

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Or be a male ?

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 11:13:21 PM

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That works every time as far as I know......................Arnold Schwarznegger not withstanding

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 11:21:29 PM

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Ffs of course anal doesnt prevent pregnancy.
Stupid fucking assssss umption.
Wow this thread is bordering on feeble cretinism.
Thanks greta!!!!!!!!

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 11:24:40 PM

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I didn't know you can get pregnant from anal sex? I mean, are you serious? It's possible? Scientifically how? Either way, condoms and contraceptive combo should make it literally impossible to get pregnant from anal sex too!

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/17/2016 11:26:48 PM

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If sperm is spilled outside the anus in any way, the sperm will make their way towards the ovum. Notice the words 'In any way' .

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:08:55 AM

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Greta, yeah well you said that birth control works too.
None of my pregnancies were planned, and all 7 were sposed to be "controlled" by a pill or tubal ligation.
You need so much education, its not funny.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:15:18 AM

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Greta, yeah well you said that birth control works too.
None of my pregnancies were planned, and all 7 were sposed to be "controlled" by a pill or tubal ligation.
You need so much education, its not funny.

Did you read my 3 steps to 101% that I wrote to wayward. You didn't do my three steps.
I mean, condoms with spermcide+one form of birth control+morning after pill for back up incase of torn condoms.

I challenge any woman to get pregnant this way, and you can't trust your man to wear the condom correctly, you take charge of that condom!

Anyway, in my idea, if your pregnancy is no fault of yours. Like there is evidence you had tubal ligation, which I think can be easily proven, you made efforts, it's not irresponsible pregnancy.

But pill alone is not enough. My doctor told me, unless I take the pill at exactly the same time everyday, precisely the same time, I will be widening the chances of getting pregnant even with pill. Many women may have forgotten to pop it or may delay popping it.

That's why back up with condoms as well is extremely important.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:53:50 AM

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This whole discussion does not seem to be about abortion or not, but how you can punish women who get pregnant.

Quite a disgusting idea.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 2:26:19 AM

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If sperm is spilled outside the anus in any way, the sperm will make their way towards the ovum. Notice the words 'In any way' .

It would have to be spilled close enough to actually go in the vagina and then they are going to have to work their way in from their. If you study anatomy you will understand why the chances of getting pregnant this way are about as good as getting pregnant from sitting on a dirty toilet seat. But since LL is the one who implied you could get pregnant by anal maybe she has a explanation on how she thinks it will happen.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 3:31:55 AM

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If sperm is spilled outside the anus in any way, the sperm will make their way towards the ovum. Notice the words 'In any way' .

It would have to be spilled close enough to actually go in the vagina and then they are going to have to work their way in from their. If you study anatomy you will understand why the chances of getting pregnant this way are about as good as getting pregnant from sitting on a dirty toilet seat. But since LL is the one who implied you could get pregnant by anal maybe she has a explanation on how she thinks it will happen.

I didnt think you were that ignorant boi...

https://www.optionsforsexualhealth.org/birth-control-pregnancy/can-pregnancy-happen-if
We have anal sex?

The anus is part of the digestive system. This system begins in a person's mouth, and ends with the anus. Since the reproductive system and the digestive system are not connected, sperm that enters the anus cannot swim through the body to reach an egg cell in the reproductive system.

It is possible to get pregnant if someone has anal intercourse and the semen or ejaculate leaks out of the anus and into the vagina; or if ejaculated semen is near the opening of the vagina and that semen happens to work its way deep into the vaginal opening. So if the man does not wear a condom, or it slips off, or is worn incorrectly, there is a chance that some sperm may get into the vagina and a pregnancy could occur.

http://teenclinic.org/about/get-answers/tag/anal-sex/
Pregnancy is possible whenever semen enters the vagina. If semen accidentally got into the vagina during anal sex, then yes, there would be a risk for pregnancy. Or, if some of the ejaculate leaked from the anus to the vaginal opening, you could be at risk of pregnancy.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 3:33:17 AM

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This whole discussion does not seem to be about abortion or not, but how you can punish women who get pregnant.

Quite a disgusting idea.

yes, it is disgusting.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 4:05:04 AM

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This whole discussion does not seem to be about abortion or not, but how you can punish women who get pregnant.

Quite a disgusting idea.

Women who get pregnant due to responsible family planning and wants to keep the baby, doesn't get punished.
I believe in prevention is better than cure. So to have a penalty for unplanned pregnancies will make people more responsible. I truly believe this will greatly reduced unplanned pregnancy.

The end goal is to have everybody have babies because they love having babies and they want them!

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 6:22:00 AM

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You are not making a lot of sense Greta75 to me, so I will pick two from the list of no sense.

In my country, it's unanimous; everybody is pro-abortion, even within the Christians and Muslims. That is not simply not true, and many non-religious people hold life dear

101% method – your maths skills are worse than mine, that aside say someone became pregnant due to the condom/spermicide/pill not working (and I do not mean eg a condom rupture- happened to me 4 times that – and I still hammered away on them for I am man and it was my duty) how would they know to shovel the morning after pill down their throats....are you saying that anyone having sex should use the full menu off, condom/femdom/muffindom(patent pending) spermicide and the morning after pill

I will give you the bit about Americans medicine being expensive and you should see their TV adverts pill for everything and many pill adverts....I watched one two years ago and big deep voice at end read of the side effects – list was long; coking shrinkage, impotency, raging steamer, death and so on, and I laughed, and wept at the same time.

Responsibility/education will help but in essence leave me alone with a tin of cookies and I can assure cookies begone. Some people are inherently irresponsible and no amount of education programming will change that. Sex education at the catholic school I went to was a joke, probably still is, and I have the capacity to be educated, well perhaps not all of the time :) but most of the time - and that is a good thing.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:14:41 PM

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Good God Greta, why does anyone even bother. I have never in my 45 years come across anyone as blissfully unaware of what the world is like as you are. And I mean BLISSFULLY unaware. The fact that you are saying these things and that you really believe them is more than I can stand to even think about.

I just can't do it today.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:29:07 PM

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Like many things Greta has opinions on... Unbelievable.

You have to remember she lives in an isolated island world where the whole population is less than a small city and the society she lives in is very warped compared to most of the western world.
Most of the media she looks at is the local skewed rag that likes to keep it's citizens oblivious of what happens elsewhere.

You also have to bear in mind that 30%+ of Singapore's population aren't even locals or Singaporean born.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:57:54 PM

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its already the irresponsible women having abortions.

they don't have the money to pay for the abortions, for the most part, so the idea of having a 5000 dollar fine won't work greta.

If they're that irresponsible, do you really want them forced into rearing children?

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 12:57:55 PM

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I didn't know you can get pregnant from anal sex? I mean, are you serious? It's possible? Scientifically how? Either way, condoms and contraceptive combo should make it literally impossible to get pregnant from anal sex too!

Are you aware Greta, that most catholic and other non-christian schools in Singapore do not follow the MOE's teachings on sex education?
Many are saying that it contradicts the teachings of their faith.

So in that sense, there are many out there in your own country that do not use contraception at all; despite your assertions that everyone gets the same sex education.
That claim is just bullshit.

And for you, a female, who is so utterly selfish when it comes to sex that she can't find love, beggars belief.
And a female that can't cook... at your age??
You should be ashamed of yourself.

I really wonder how you've managed to survive for so long with such a blinkered PoV of the world. In many respects, you are no better than the poor women living in north Korea - blinded, brainwashed, spoon-fed propaganda that you swallow wholesale without question and dismiss everything else.

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 1:00:30 PM

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This thread brought to mind an interesting (imho) observation by a favorite writer:

Yet, as every party to the abortion debate should know, those methods of contraception that are truly safe are not absolutely reliable no matter how reliably they are used. Many women, like myself, have felt free to choose the safest methods because legal abortion is available as a backup to contraception. Anyone who finds that a thoughtless, immoral choice should speak to the orphans of women whose wombs were perforated by Dalkon shields or whose strokes were brought on by high-estrogen birth-control pills.

Barbara Ehrenreich, "Their Dilemma and Mine" in The Worst Years of Our Lives: Irreverent Notes From a Decade of Greed (HarperPerennial, 1991)

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RE: Win-Win to Abortion issue - 2/18/2016 1:09:12 PM

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Women who might not want to talk about a rape or such might feel even more forced to have the Child.

There are many, many problems with punishing women this way.

Rape won't be a problem since it's exempted.
I think alot of woman will suck it up and do the community service and get the abortion done as well.

"Yeah suck it up you raped hoe and go public about it unless you want to have the state rape you too. "

Or what about that women might blame men for rape to get an abortion? :)

It's not a bad idea on paper, peoples hedonistic and careless selfishness has been enabled by the welfarestate. But this one is a tough cookie to crack.
You can't abuse victims any further nor can you encourage potential liars to ruin the lives of their partners to escape the fine or Community service.

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