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subsations -> Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/18/2016 5:58:20 AM)

I am married to a beautiful Dominant woman and we have been sexually monogamous to date....more and more I think She deserves more and deserves greater sexual pleasure than I offer Her....when I cum to soon or struggle with an erection, I think that She deserves better. I have not gotten the nerve to tell Her as I am afraid that will open a door that is hard to close - if I would want it closed....wondering how others have dealt with this..




WickedsDesire -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/18/2016 7:23:13 AM)

I would cause steam to shoot from her nether parts and her to orgasm with flow at mite over 11km/s, launching her clear into outer space, and her mind to warp into the way of the makings of many muffins, so I may maintain my scarcely believable energy levels/ and claims, that seem patently absurd to mere mortals.
Escape velocity earth best I look that up - make it 11.21km/s – damn my sex starved of wanton wench memory

Anyone can fuk, few people can ravish – no man parts are actually required for that.
Merely put a picture of this wanton beauty on here, anywhere, with the words “blah” and men will flock, well most men, as they will pretty much fuk anything that lets them.

Join a swinging site – granted these are full of mainly married men, whose partners have no idea hey are on them, and the odd women- often a monster of such hideousness it would shatter your belief in reality itself...best i not forget even the slim pickins of creatures that call themselves “women” are vastly outnumbered unconvincing TVs (Most there without their partners permission) – I am not kidding that a swingers site for thee.

what are your wife thought on this?




LadyPact -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/18/2016 8:30:04 AM)

OP, I looked at your profile to see your age. When I read your profile, I had to wonder if this is for her or if it's really for you.

The age I wanted to check out because you very specifically mentioned that you have trouble getting an erection. This almost gets the automatic return question of have you been to the doctor to see if there is a medical reason for this. Erectile dysfunction isn't exactly rare in middle aged men. There could be various causes, including medications that you might already be on, low testosterone as you've gotten older, and a plethora of others. If you can find a medical reason for it, problem solved with a little blue pill. Doctors aren't exactly shy about prescribing what is needed to rectify the situation.

Here's the second question I have and it has to do with your phrasing of the title. Do you mean 'seeing' as envisioning the situation of opening your relationship or does it have to do with visual stimulation for you? There's a difference. Looking at your profile, I lean toward thinking it's one more than the other.

I'm also in the "what does your wife think about this" questioning. Most married people know if their spouse is more in the monogamy camp or the polyamorous camp. What does she say about folks who have more than one relationship or when a story hits the papers when somebody gets caught cheating? You know her attitude about these things, so you've already got some idea of what she thinks about these things. That might give you a clue as to how she'll feel about bringing this idea to her. Since your profile specifically states that you are bi-sexual and interested in other men, I'd be wondering if you were just using her as a vehicle for those kinds on encounters, so I'd be suspicious about your motivations. If your wife is aware that you are bisexual, this might cross her mind.

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I am afraid that will open a door that is hard to close - if I would want it closed....wondering how others have dealt with this..

When we did it, we started from the beginning with the agreement that our marriage was first. Any additional people in our lives would always be secondary, and either of us had the prerogative to say we wanted to go back to monogamy if it wasn't working out. Then, we spent about six months discussing what parameters we wanted in place and what guidelines we wanted. We didn't approach as just "hey, let's do this," and not understand the potentials. You can't predict everything but you can look at the situations that other people run across and talk about how you would handle them if they happen to you.

Some things you might want to consider when deciding what will work for you and what won't:

What kind of non-monogamy would best suit the two of you?

How will other partners be handled?

Will these be relationships or just sexual encounters?

Do either of you expect intimate details of the spouse's other relationship if it doesn't include you?

What plans will you have in place to keep the core relationship (your marriage - just the two of you) interesting and exciting?

What happens if she ends up finding partners and you don't if both of you are allowed to find other people?

What rules will you have when you host? What rules will you want when other parties host?


You might be interested in reading some of the poly discussions that you can find in the archives.






masmiss -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/18/2016 10:58:28 AM)

I love the intelligent, common-sense replies you write on these forums.

But, I have the feeling the OP just wanted to see page after page of "Go for it" as a reply. [:D]




littleclip -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/18/2016 9:10:56 PM)

the best place to start is by talking with her. she might have a diffrent take on it. there is also the use of toys and such. i had low t and now i have much better erections for me my adhd meds side effect is to have delayed ejaculation so check you meds and ask your dr on what can be done to help




subsations -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 6:06:35 AM)

LadyPact - Thank you so much for the detailed and thoughtful reply. You read the situation perfectly and touched upon many of the considerations, dynamics, thoughts, and feelings....as to the age and little pill - they continue to work well and are an open and regular part of our life together.

The mix of feelings are very complicated for me and there is no single path..."seeing" is both potentially visual as part of me would love seeing her receiving pleasure and in fact, knowing "it was just sex" may be the easiest thing for me to embrace...and while there would be pleasure in seeing her receiving pleasure, there would no doubt e stimulation in there for me as well....on one hand, I could envision being an observer and on the other end of the spectrum, I could envision being a participant. In mind and fantasy, this ranges from jointly pleasuring her to submissive cuckold pleasing them both....and things in between. As you astutely observe, my bi-sexual leanings are wrapped up in this, but I am not sure how closely they are intertwined with the intention of my post. Prior to being married, I explored D/s with a Dominant couple of men and I enjoyed it - in fact, I find myself thinking more and more about it...there is definitely part of the m-m dynamic that is very arousing to me within D/s - I do not find myself at all drawn to men outside D/s, but am very much drawn to it within D/s....very complex for me.


Regarding my wife's feelings on this...well, I just don't really know - she lived much of her life in poly relationships and during our marriage has expressed interest in opening to others - although this has not been the case for a long time - in fact, she has said that she really does not want others now....throughout, she has always been deeply respectful of our relationship and our love and I treasure that and respect it - although, I do wonder whether she is repressing part of her core self and that is a concern for me....just as the potential of opening up our relationship gives me pause - and yes, I have read many of the poly posts and appreciate some of the very common jealously challenges....

Knowing my wife, I think random sexual encounters would not be her first preference and that she would gravitate towards a more intimate relationship....personally, I would be less threatened by the sexual relationship....

Again, I am very grateful for your reply and others...I was not looking for a "go for it" response, but rather feedback and the opportunity to communicate on a very sensitive and important topic to me - thank you!




SuaveGentleman -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 7:29:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subsations

The mix of feelings are very complicated for me and there is no single path..."seeing" is both potentially visual as part of me would love seeing her receiving pleasure and in fact, knowing "it was just sex" may be the easiest thing for me to embrace...and while there would be pleasure in seeing her receiving pleasure, there would no doubt e stimulation in there for me as well....on one hand, I could envision being an observer and on the other end of the spectrum, I could envision being a participant. In mind and fantasy, this ranges from jointly pleasuring her to submissive cuckold pleasing them both....and things in between. As you astutely observe, my bi-sexual leanings are wrapped up in this, but I am not sure how closely they are intertwined with the intention of my post. Prior to being married, I explored D/s with a Dominant couple of men and I enjoyed it - in fact, I find myself thinking more and more about it...there is definitely part of the m-m dynamic that is very arousing to me within D/s - I do not find myself at all drawn to men outside D/s, but am very much drawn to it within D/s....very complex for me.



Putting aside your bi-curiosity, for a moment think keenly about your feelings about truly seeing your wife with someone else. Its a common male fantasy, but think twice about it. You exude the impression that you love and care for your wife. As you put it, your wife is not going to be in it for just the sex, she will gravitate towards something more intimate. Its easy to fantasize about this, but will you really be able to handle your wife being intimate with someone else? Think it through. There is no wrong or right answer - only what you two mutually and consensually decide. But make sure you understand what you are getting into.




LadyPact -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 7:33:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subsations
LadyPact - Thank you so much for the detailed and thoughtful reply. You read the situation perfectly and touched upon many of the considerations, dynamics, thoughts, and feelings....as to the age and little pill - they continue to work well and are an open and regular part of our life together.

The reply's not a problem at all. This is kind of one of my areas. [:)]

Definite kudos on treating a medical problem with a medical solution. You'd be surprised how many people don't, even with the common knowledge that's out there.

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The mix of feelings are very complicated for me and there is no single path..."seeing" is both potentially visual as part of me would love seeing her receiving pleasure and in fact, knowing "it was just sex" may be the easiest thing for me to embrace...and while there would be pleasure in seeing her receiving pleasure, there would no doubt e stimulation in there for me as well....on one hand, I could envision being an observer and on the other end of the spectrum, I could envision being a participant. In mind and fantasy, this ranges from jointly pleasuring her to submissive cuckold pleasing them both....and things in between. As you astutely observe, my bi-sexual leanings are wrapped up in this, but I am not sure how closely they are intertwined with the intention of my post. Prior to being married, I explored D/s with a Dominant couple of men and I enjoyed it - in fact, I find myself thinking more and more about it...there is definitely part of the m-m dynamic that is very arousing to me within D/s - I do not find myself at all drawn to men outside D/s, but am very much drawn to it within D/s....very complex for me.

And what if she wants to date people completely without you? Depending on the type of person she is, she may not want to feel like she's the vehicle for fantasy fulfillment. If it's really about HER sexual happiness, that might mean leaving you out of it.

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Regarding my wife's feelings on this...well, I just don't really know - she lived much of her life in poly relationships and during our marriage has expressed interest in opening to others - although this has not been the case for a long time - in fact, she has said that she really does not want others now....throughout, she has always been deeply respectful of our relationship and our love and I treasure that and respect it - although, I do wonder whether she is repressing part of her core self and that is a concern for me....just as the potential of opening up our relationship gives me pause - and yes, I have read many of the poly posts and appreciate some of the very common jealously challenges....

This is probably going to sound a little odd. A lot of people look at the monogamy and poly things as the two versions. I tend to add in a third called poly optional. These are the folks who function in either type of relationship style. Unlike the folks who are what some folks call "hard wired" for one or the other, the optional folks don't feel like something's missing in monogamous relationships and don't feel like their mate should be just theirs when they are poly. (Biggest mistake some folks can make if they try to change one of the hard wired folks because that's just a bad situation waiting to happen.) From what you are telling me, your wife sounds poly optional.

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Knowing my wife, I think random sexual encounters would not be her first preference and that she would gravitate towards a more intimate relationship....personally, I would be less threatened by the sexual relationship....

That's not terribly uncommon. In my opinion, more women than men lean toward sex in relationships, rather than random encounters. I can't tell you if a part of that still comes from societal influences or not. I just know it's what I see.

Emotional attachment tends to be a much bigger deal when the spouse has feelings for the other person. It was way harder on MP (that's my other half) to watch me actually be in love with tk or pet. That can be some scary stuff right there. When you're doing that additional reading on poly, start looking for this word "compersion". It's kind of the holy grail for poly people. Basically, it's the joy that some people get because they are happy that their partner also loves somebody else.

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Again, I am very grateful for your reply and others...I was not looking for a "go for it" response, but rather feedback and the opportunity to communicate on a very sensitive and important topic to me - thank you!

While I'm absolutely NOT the most helpful or "nice" person around these boards, I do try to lend a hand when I can. There are several posters who I also would like to see on this thread because they've got the experience with their versions of poly that work really well for all of the participants involved. Let's cross our fingers. [;)]





subsations -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 7:57:02 AM)

Thanks very much - I do think about this often and the possible outcomes weigh very heavily on my mind....would it strengthen or break us? I am not sure....




subsations -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 8:48:54 AM)

LadyPact - I can see that it is indeed one of your areas! Thanks again for the insights!

Compersion is a fascinating concept and I really wonder if I could find it in myself to get there....

Look forward to future conversation threads...




WickedsDesire -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/19/2016 12:30:13 PM)

there is no her




DesFIP -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/20/2016 9:17:01 AM)

Since she's the dominant in the relationship, and she's made it clear that she's monogamous, I think you have two choices: continue doing what she wants which is monogamy, or divorce her and seek another partner who wants a cuckold.




DesFIP -> RE: Seeing your wife having sex with another (2/20/2016 9:18:03 AM)

Since she's the dominant in the relationship, and she's made it clear that she's monogamous, I think you have two choices: continue doing what she wants which is monogamy, or divorce her and seek another partner who wants a cuckold.




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