UllrsIshtar
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ORIGINAL: SuaveGentleman
How much knowledge / expertise / experience do you need to execute risky forms of play like fireplay, knife play, electrocution, rope suspension?
Quite a bit. In addition to learning about techniques, safety concerns, and risks, I always learn about how that type of play would my specific body.
Thus, before getting into heavy electrical play (dog shock collars on the neck, cattle prod, etc) I had an EKG done to check if my heart would be up for it.
Before heavily getting into rope play, I studied the central nervous system, to learn which area were at risk for nerve damage.
Before getting into breath play, I had a consult with a nose and throat specialist, and discussed with him the risks of neck compression breath play, as well as what to do in case something does go wrong, and a windpipe collapses or crushes (it only takes the amount of force needed to compress a pool noodle to crush your windpipe).
I've also got courses of CPR under my belt, and we have contingency plans in place when we engage in risky play (we know where the phones are to call 911, have a first aid kit handy, bolt cutters/safety sheers/rope cutting knife available, etc).
Even with all of that precaution, shit still goes wrong.
A couple months ago during a breath play scene, the Top's hand slipped and put pressure on the nerve in my neck with neither of us noticing until it was too late. I've now got nerve damage in my neck that's causing the sensation of the need to cough without a way to relieve it. I've been coughing pretty much every day for 7 months now, and it'll probably be another year or two before it completely heals.
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ORIGINAL: SuaveGentleman
Where did the experienced among you gather that knowledge?
I start off taking classes in the kink community. Learning from people who have practically been doing this for a long time is my number one step because I like learning from relevant experience. Don't think that you can substitute reading/talking with somebody online about a subject for an in-person, hands on class or instruction.
Follow up steps are learning everything I can about the subject in question in a none kink related way. So for electricity, for example, that would mean studying the known effects of electricity on the body. For this steps there are textbooks, or reputable sites online.
The next step is figuring out contingencies: now that I've got a better idea of what might go wrong, we figure out what we're going to do if stuff does go wrong.
After that I involve the medical community is necessary and relevant to the subject, and get tests done, or ask them any questions I need answered.
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ORIGINAL: SuaveGentleman
How did you feel in the beginning when you practiced it - were you scared yourself that something might go wrong?
Yes and no.
Most of the edge play I engage in is designed to elicit intense fear. So for the most part, once play starts, both the Top and the bottom are really to enthralled in the emotions of the play to have much energy left over to worry about things going wrong. It's always in the back of the mind during the 'calmer' points of play though.
In addition to that, both of us, from the Topping perspective, need a ramp up period before we're comfortable going 'all out'. The bottoms, including me (I switch) are usually ready to dive right into the deep end, and go all the way right away, while the Top needs to 'feel things out' before they're comfortable enough to slowly extend the range of play.
When we started waterboarding, me as a bottom was ready to go several minutes at a time after just a few practice runs. My husband, on the other hand, took quite a few sessions as the Top to be comfortable going above 30 seconds with me.
With every new bottom, that hesitation/caution comes back, and the Top again needs a break in period to start feeling more comfortable about going harder.
Me as a Top, I rarely exceed half a minute with new bottoms either, even if I know that they, just like I was, are usually ready to go much further than that much faster.
< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 2/19/2016 8:13:47 AM >
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