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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/4/2016 6:40:27 PM   
Greta75


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How much power or respect are given to women in Singapore?

There are cultural differences to this power and respect.
In traditional chinese marriages, a man surrenders his entire salary to his wife, and she gives him an allowance of his own money. She is the head of budgets. The man's job is to bring in the dough for her to manage. My x-husband did that with me even though I made more money than him, he still followed tradition. His dad did that with his mom. And I definitely know enough men who still practices this tradition. But on surface, the woman may look demure and defer to her husband in public all the time. But because, we would always want to make our man look like his in charge infront of others, so he'll always look good and ego intact.

But can you imagine a caucasian man willingly allowing his wife to control his purse strings like that?

Who has the real power in that relationship? I don't know. I think home makers in Caucasian world has less power, because they are at the mercy of their man's and what they give them.

But over here, when men are brought up like it's normal to surrender your entire income to your wife. And you marry a woman to be your accountant and handle your finance, it's a whole different thing, and they don't interfer with how you manage his money, as long as he sees it growing and put into good use. Usually they will choose a wife who is sensible about these stuffs too.

And then on top of that, imagine he loves you and you don't love him. Who has bigger power.

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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/5/2016 1:11:45 AM   
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This was exactly my point peppermint

Greta lives in cloud cuckoo land in a very tiny country that is isolated and in many ways, quite backward compared to the usual western society that a lot of us take for granted.

How did you know she lives in idaho?

Hey, I happen to be quite fond of Idaho (although admittedly, have never lived there).

My recollection from my last of 3 visits was meeting the sexiest hunk of a state trooper who wanted me to move and come live with him.
He was very romantic on our group dates (I was there during an extended conference), but we didn't have sex because I was engaged at the time.
Are you insinuating that I may have dodged a bullet?


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There are cultural differences to this power and respect.
In traditional chinese marriages, a man surrenders his entire salary to his wife, and she gives him an allowance of his own money. She is the head of budgets. The man's job is to bring in the dough for her to manage. My x-husband did that with me even though I made more money than him, he still followed tradition. His dad did that with his mom. And I definitely know enough men who still practices this tradition. But on surface, the woman may look demure and defer to her husband in public all the time. But because, we would always want to make our man look like his in charge infront of others, so he'll always look good and ego intact.

But can you imagine a caucasian man willingly allowing his wife to control his purse strings like that?

Who has the real power in that relationship? I don't know. I think home makers in Caucasian world has less power, because they are at the mercy of their man's and what they give them.

But over here, when men are brought up like it's normal to surrender your entire income to your wife. And you marry a woman to be your accountant and handle your finance, it's a whole different thing, and they don't interfer with how you manage his money, as long as he sees it growing and put into good use. Usually they will choose a wife who is sensible about these stuffs too.

And then on top of that, imagine he loves you and you don't love him. Who has bigger power.

There are plenty of Caucasian men who let their wives control the purse strings. It's just more customarily accepted in Asian cultures, at least the ones I'm familiar with.
You are right, in that the wife is expected to build upon the household wealth via her handling of the finances. The shrewdest money managers I have ever known have been Asian wives who run family businesses.

There are also women's "social clubs" which operate like financial lenders at a grassroots level, where resources are pooled and then rotated on a monthly basis. One month, one of the ladies has full use of the group's funds, the next month another one does.


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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 11:20:52 AM   
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How did you know she lives in idaho?

Hey, I happen to be quite fond of Idaho (although admittedly, have never lived there).

My recollection from my last of 3 visits was meeting the sexiest hunk of a state trooper who wanted me to move and come live with him.
He was very romantic on our group dates (I was there during an extended conference), but we didn't have sex because I was engaged at the time.
Are you insinuating that I may have dodged a bullet?

I underestand that both mark furman and sanity live there.


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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 11:47:12 AM   
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I underestand that both mark furman and sanity live there.

Is that the only thing you have against Idaho? It's a big state, yanno.

And in all fairness, Greta did preface her comment with "traditional chinese marriages." Even with first-generation Chinese-Americans, we can see this custom carried over in The Joy Luck Club.
I can guarantee you, though, that if an Asian wife mismanages the finances, all hell will rain down upon her head, since the elder female relatives will not tolerate a non-dutiful wife, and part of an Asian's wife's obligation is to her husband and his extended family above all else.

With the influence of Westernization and modernized society, things may have shifted, and this may no longer be the case with semi-Americanized Chinese.
I had a Chinese accountant once who continued to control the money after he returned to China briefly to secure himself a bride from his native village (as is the custom). He wanted to ensure that he could bring the rest of his family over to the U.S., and Asian wives are also known for squirreling away money to send home to their own relatives.


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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 12:02:36 PM   
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This says you are full of shit as usual. Just put that into google and have a grown up read it and explain it to you.
[PDF]Finance After Hours A Case Study on Women's Access to ...


am sorry to see that you are back, and that you are still engaging in the same sort of harassing posts you almost exclusively employ.

but please, keep it up and maybe the next forum "vacation" you enjoy will be a permanent one.



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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 1:19:54 PM   
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This says you are full of shit as usual. Just put that into google and have a grown up read it and explain it to you.
[PDF]Finance After Hours A Case Study on Women's Access to ...
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am sorry to see that you are back,

I never left.


and that you are still engaging in the same sort of harassing posts you almost exclusively employ.

Pointing out that you post half truths and whole lies is what I do. The link I posted points out quite clearly that the poster in question, as usual, is full of shit.

but please, keep it up

Rest assured that I will.


and maybe the next forum "vacation" you enjoy will be a permanent one.


My last vacation was spent in a whore house in parumph nv. Would love to make it permanent.

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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 1:24:56 PM   
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I underestand that both mark furman and sanity live there.

Is that the only thing you have against Idaho? It's a big state, yanno.

I spent some time there and what I found was the nursery for the furmans and sanities of the earth.



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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 7:47:15 PM   
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But can you imagine a caucasian man willingly allowing his wife to control his purse strings like that?

Don't have to imagine it. I lived it for 20 years. Many of my friends live it now or have in the past. It is not an uncommon practice here as well.



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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 7:58:46 PM   
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Don't have to imagine it. I lived it for 20 years. Many of my friends live it now or have in the past. It is not an uncommon practice here as well.

So your husband deposits 100% of his salary to you every month, and he survives on the allowance of his money that you give him?

I only know one Caucasian guy who did this, but he married an Asian wife. Told his company to bank his monthly salary into his wife's bank account. Not his own.

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RE: The one who settles has all the power - 3/6/2016 8:13:10 PM   
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So your husband deposits 100% of his salary to you every month, and he survives on the allowance of his money that you give him?

Yes.
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I only know one Caucasian guy who did this, but he married an Asian wife. Told his company to bank his monthly salary into his wife's bank account. Not his own.

I know lots of people that do it.

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