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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 9:13:40 AM   
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We do, H1 visas, but it isnt because we dont have people more qualified or dont want to do the job, its that corporations can pay them dogshit.

I assume these illegals are probably working really basic jobs like working in farms and stuffs, which can't possibly pay alot anyway.
I don't know what H1 Visas are, but my point is, they should be able to come in and apply legally for these low paying job that Americans don't want to do, rather than come in illegally and then do it anyway, illegally.


You would assume incorrectly, high tech, software and the like. The jobs.


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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 10:01:52 AM   
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You would assume incorrectly, high tech, software and the like. The jobs.



You are saying 11 millions illegals are in the US stealing technology jobs from Americans?

That's terrible!

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 10:04:54 AM   
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Btw, in a recent article, Singapore was the best bet for American election refugees.. lol

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/complete-guide-fleeing-president-donald-trump-america-article-1.2549397


Ahhh, all Americans are welcome here! I don't know if they will like it here, as it's practically how Donald Trump would have run America anyway. I think Trump has similar policies to our government.

Even his healthcare is identical to what we do. Open up the competition, so we can get lowest prices.

I didn't even know this: Singapore boasts the No. 1 most efficient health care system in the world, as rated by Bloomberg. The U.S. ranks at No. 44,


Thanks for the link!

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 10:06:15 AM   
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You would assume incorrectly, high tech, software and the like. The jobs.



You are saying 11 millions illegals are in the US stealing technology jobs from Americans?

That's terrible!



No, not saying that. At all.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 11:33:13 AM   
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I think Trump has similar policies to our government.



Trump has policies??? gee, who knew.. most of what i have read on him is that he has no platform, etc.. imo, Trump is just winging it (and quite badly, i might add.. he comes off as a flake, imo)

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Ahhh, all Americans are welcome here!


That might be 300 million Americans if Trump wins.. I doubt they will all fit in Singapore..

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/3/2016 3:14:31 PM   
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That might be 300 million Americans if Trump wins.. I doubt they will all fit in Singapore..

Yea they gotta get used to 100% humidity, relentless hot weather all year round, no seasons, tiny and over priced apartments, especially if they are used to living in big houses back home, and no freedom of speech the way America has it. And no gum! Haha! Not sure if they would actually choose to be here.

I love our weather, as I hate the cold, but I've spoken to quite a few Americans and they hate our weather, and miss their 4 seasons back home.


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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/10/2016 3:00:14 PM   
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In looking at Michigan - I'm struck.

The US body politic is sick of elections as usual. And if you look at Clinton's tone deaf actions just before the election - I think it contributed to her defeat.

Two days before the election, Clinton was saying that Bernie sanders was against the gm bailout. Whe was also saying that he was in favor of the TPP.

I think voters know her statements were deceptive. And they don'treally care how she justifies it - voters are reacting against bullshit.

The real question is - can sanders inpire enough super delegates to cause them to switch sides. Too early to tell - but just like against Obama - if he starts winning significant contests like Michigan - the superdelegates will fall in line.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/10/2016 6:22:18 PM   
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This is the thing that I don't understand. In my country, we have work passes for people from third world countries who wants to do all the jobs that nobody wants to do in Singapore. Everybody enters legally and work those jobs.

Why can't USA do the same and why does there still have to be illegals at all? If all they want is a job?

US has no legal pathway for these Mexicans to do those jobs that they are doing now anyway? I mean, legally come in and apply for those jobs.

There were programs like that in place years ago, before NAFTA. But no, there are now virtually no avenues for Latin Americans to legally immigrate for work, temporary or otherwise.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/10/2016 7:58:11 PM   
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We have special visas in this country for foreigners to come and work and yes as mnottertail said, the corporations and businesses pay them shit wages ( which is totally illegal here) and put the local citizens out of work. There is an instance here in the last two weeks of 7/11 stores paying their (work-visa) staff less than $1 an hour. The legal wage should be about $20 an hour I believe. The whole of the 7/11 group is now under investigation and a lot of managers and franchisees are having to pay thousands of dollars compensation to employees and ex-employees. Plenty of Aussies would take those jobs if the businesses were paying the legal wage.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/10/2016 8:37:18 PM   
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Turns out I was wrong and it was Carson who dropped out, not Kasich.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/10/2016 10:43:50 PM   
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Carson's been out for a bit. Kasich won't get out now - the election trail is finally leading to states he has a shot in. Momentum not exactly in his favor, but I think he will build quite a bit - and he rates to take his home state. Unlike poor marco.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 12:59:56 AM   
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Maybe after Rubio drop out and Kasich wins Ohio, he might actually have a chance to even win more states.

I don't mind Kasich if he can win over Trump, although it would be hard for him. I don't know if he can beat Hillary, but I think so far, there is like no dirt on him, because he seem so harmless.

And Hillary got mountains of dirt to go on the attack on. Except...., Kasich is too nice to attack anybody!

Ahh American Elections! It's just crazy how under the belt the media can go all the time.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 2:19:35 AM   
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I'm totally confused about this election. I've been wrong about several things.

1. Trump's candidacy. I figured he was another Sarah Palin, with no real ambition for public office, just using the election to drum up popularity, and charge more for speeches and sell more books. But it looks like he may take this seriously.

2. Trump's expected collapse. I predicted that Trump's opponents would drop from the race, one by one, and that the moderate GOP votes would all go to some non-Trump candidate. But the main challenger to Trump is Cruz, who's about as conservative as Trump. The GOP voters are more conservative than I had thought.

I cannot imagine GOP moderates rallying around Cruz. Nor can I imagine, if Cruz were to drop out of the race, that his support would go to anyone but Trump. So it boils down to either Trump or Cruz getting the GOP nomination.

3. I'm surprised to see relative unknown Sanders even being able to compete with well-known, well-connected Clinton. Part of this must be that Obama has not made his incredible political machine available to Clinton. I was expecting that to be a given. Evidently Clinton and Obama didn't make nice as much as I had thought.

Still, Clinton is racking up a huge lead in delegates.

Likely Clinton - Trump, with a slight possibility of Clinton - Cruz. Expect the nastiest, smeariest campaign in US history. The GOP will dig up all the dirt on Hillary from 2008, when they were blindsided by Obama beating her in the primary, as well as new material since. The Dems have an embarrassment of riches in Trump - his misogyny, his bankruptcies, his infidelity for a "family values" candidate (obviously, Clinton will have to be careful it doesn't backfire), and I suspect plenty of shady business dealings.

The result? Obama finally hands over his machine to Clinton, who exploits the GOTV component especially. Trump/Cruz alienates several blocs of voters. Clinton wins with a margin similar to Obama's against McCain.

I just hope the nastiness of the campaign doesn't poison the mood in Washington even worse.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 3:04:31 AM   
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It seems incredibly obvious to me that it's Dems electing Trump. Democratic cross overs are poisoning the Republican caucuses and primaries to prevent some actually viable candidate winning the Republican convention and nomination. Not that there is one among the many contenders . . . We are No clowns short of a circus!

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 5:16:26 AM   
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No, there couldn't possibly be that many people on the republican side that are actually voting for Trump. Let's blame the Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/09/no-donald-trump-is-not-winning-states-because-of-strategic-voting/


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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 5:40:03 AM   
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I wouldn't trust the WP to tell me my dog has passed away, they're as biased and corrupt as they come. Hell they ran 16 anti burnie pieces on their website across 16 hours. That's not news, that's propaganda, so I'd be skeptical of anything coming from them these days. If there is a more reputable and less biased news source I'd suggest you link it instead.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 7:06:35 AM   
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Are there some Dems participating in party crashing? I'm sure some may. Could there even be some leaving their party to vote for Trump because they <gasp> actually like him? Sad, but probably true. I don't care where the source comes from, the numbers aren't there. You have to have a lot more than some to actually have an effect. Democrats are no better than the rest of the country at organizing group efforts.

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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 8:35:25 AM   
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I'm totally confused about this election. I've been wrong about several things.

1. Trump's candidacy. I figured he was another Sarah Palin, with no real ambition for public office, just using the election to drum up popularity, and charge more for speeches and sell more books. But it looks like he may take this seriously.

2. Trump's expected collapse. I predicted that Trump's opponents would drop from the race, one by one, and that the moderate GOP votes would all go to some non-Trump candidate. But the main challenger to Trump is Cruz, who's about as conservative as Trump. The GOP voters are more conservative than I had thought.

I cannot imagine GOP moderates rallying around Cruz. Nor can I imagine, if Cruz were to drop out of the race, that his support would go to anyone but Trump. So it boils down to either Trump or Cruz getting the GOP nomination.

3. I'm surprised to see relative unknown Sanders even being able to compete with well-known, well-connected Clinton. Part of this must be that Obama has not made his incredible political machine available to Clinton. I was expecting that to be a given. Evidently Clinton and Obama didn't make nice as much as I had thought.

Still, Clinton is racking up a huge lead in delegates.

Likely Clinton - Trump, with a slight possibility of Clinton - Cruz. Expect the nastiest, smeariest campaign in US history. The GOP will dig up all the dirt on Hillary from 2008, when they were blindsided by Obama beating her in the primary, as well as new material since. The Dems have an embarrassment of riches in Trump - his misogyny, his bankruptcies, his infidelity for a "family values" candidate (obviously, Clinton will have to be careful it doesn't backfire), and I suspect plenty of shady business dealings.

The result? Obama finally hands over his machine to Clinton, who exploits the GOTV component especially. Trump/Cruz alienates several blocs of voters. Clinton wins with a margin similar to Obama's against McCain.

I just hope the nastiness of the campaign doesn't poison the mood in Washington even worse.


I have, consistently here an other places, said that liberals do not understand the depth of the anger among independents and republicans. Due to 2010 being a solid wave election for the republicans, if there is *another* republican wave election - it will only show by republicans maintaining senate seats, no real pickups.

Republican enthusiasm is about 50% more than democrat at the moment. This election still has a 35% chance or so of being a wave election. Factors that diminish: republican party fracturing, Sanders coopting younger, impressionable voters. On the other hand, a lot of things could increase it. The economy, a terrorist action, heavily disruptive blm activities etc.

Edit: Or things like this: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4796045561001/justice-dept-may-prosecute-climate-change-deniers/?#sp=show-clips

People think that the attitude in washington is poisoned - they forget there has been fisticuffs on the floor of the house, duels among members. The republic muddles along same as it ever has. People on the right DONT WANT any more government activity. Zero. We don't want any more big government solutions. Build the damn wall. Stop being and idiot in the middle east. Deal with china's currency manipulation. Pay the debt.




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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 8:41:13 AM   
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It seems incredibly obvious to me that it's Dems electing Trump. Democratic cross overs are poisoning the Republican caucuses and primaries to prevent some actually viable candidate winning the Republican convention and nomination. Not that there is one among the many contenders . . . We are No clowns short of a circus!



Good article satanscharmer although I disagree with its conclusions. Republican turnout and voter registrations are way up.

Stef, this is both the benefit and the peril of open primaries. Getting someone to pull the lever once for your candidate can be a stepping stone to makeing it a habit. It can also result in a larger, more inclusive, more energetic party.

The truth of the matter is that all this election cycle - its the republican party that has a deep talent pool - and for the forseeable future.

I think the chances are that people are voting for trump because they are angry. I think that is a more likely explanation than massive poisoning of the voter pool.


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RE: Super Tuesday Predictions - 3/11/2016 9:08:56 AM   
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I have, consistently here an other places, said that liberals do not understand the depth of the anger among independents and republicans. Due to 2010 being a solid wave election for the republicans, if there is *another* republican wave election - it will only show by republicans maintaining senate seats, no real pickups.




For a man who doesnt understand what dems are angry about I find this hugely ironic.

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