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Crouchingtiger77 -> I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 3:06:48 AM)

State by State requirements for Write Ins

I think that Sanders supporters are pissed off at the DNC for the Super Delegates and also
how Bernie was treated coming out of Iowa

Also I think this is one election cycle that a write in campaign could work.





DaddySatyr -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 3:13:23 AM)


If the anti-Christ (Hillary) gets the nomination, I strongly support an "outside" run by Bernie. I think it's a capitol idea!

Feel the Bern!



Michael




Kaliko -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 7:19:19 AM)

I'm a huge supporter of Bernie Sanders. I was lucky enough to be just a few feet away from him in a small venue during one of his speeches over the summer and so there was no way that I could miss him saying that no matter what, even if he doesn't wind up getting the nomination, that there is no way we can let a Republican in the White House; that we must support the democratic candidate.

I'm conflicted. I want to act on my disapproval for superdelegates just like everyone else does. But, I feel like that's a childish reaction. And no, I'm not so certain at all that he would win a write-in.




satanscharmer -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 8:21:26 AM)

There wouldn't be enough people. It's damn near impossible to get that many people to do something not typical, especially if it meant risking a Trump win. I love Sanders and am pissed off at the DNC. It's obstructionism of a different sort that they're doing. It adds proof to the sentiment 'my vote doesn't count, so why waste my time voting'.




MrRodgers -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 9:26:33 AM)

Until people are ready to accept the fact that there a singularity to the establishment...there will be no progress at all.

The Reagan people didn't like H.W. Bush and his people at all. Bush ridiculed Reagan's economic policy as Voodoo Economics. Bush & Co. were the Ivy League know-it-all's. But when it came to getting money to defeat the incumbent, the 'establishment' told Reagan...take H.W. Bush as VP.

Reagan once elected, still didn't want to play ball. You know what happened and [he] got real lucky. Then the 'establishment's' poster boy Bush I followed up and became pres. and continued their policies, war, spending, tax cuts and deficits.

Now, soon as B. Clinton got the numbers as did Reagan in 1980 and with Perot, the 'establishment' got to [him] right away and he rolled over like the whore he was. Reformed welfare, don't badger the fed, ride the dot.com boom, passed NAFTA and signed the 'reform' of Glass-Steagall.

Obama was going to steamroll McCain, Hillary was already in the fold, Obama immediately played ball and now you have Trump and Sanders the outliers. Sanders has no chance and Trump becomes the real target. So watch very, very closely and you will notice how every establishment outlet, fixture and potential will go after Trump so even if nominated, his fate will be that of McCain.

Here's a good indicator, take a very close look at whoever Trump's choice for VP is. Let's see if he really or is not...'establishment.'





Termyn8or -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 11:47:34 AM)

"The Reagan people didn't like H.W. Bush and his people at all. Bush ridiculed Reagan's economic policy as Voodoo Economics. "

Yeah, and we got Hillary bitching publicly about the big banks and she got the most money from them than anyone. Lying cheating bitch.

They'll say whatever needs to be said.

T^T




Musicmystery -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 1:55:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


If the anti-Christ (Hillary) gets the nomination, I strongly support an "outside" run by Bernie. I think it's a capitol idea!

Feel the Bern!



Michael


And thus, the day came when I agreed with Michael.




Musicmystery -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 1:57:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I'm a huge supporter of Bernie Sanders. I was lucky enough to be just a few feet away from him in a small venue during one of his speeches over the summer and so there was no way that I could miss him saying that no matter what, even if he doesn't wind up getting the nomination, that there is no way we can let a Republican in the White House; that we must support the democratic candidate.

I'm conflicted. I want to act on my disapproval for superdelegates just like everyone else does. But, I feel like that's a childish reaction. And no, I'm not so certain at all that he would win a write-in.

Yeah, a write-in is possible, but tough to organize enough to win. An independent run would be better, though that would face a bunch of procedural hurdles.

If Hilary wins, and there's no independent Sanders movement, I'll be voting for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 2:02:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

State by State requirements for Write Ins

I think that Sanders supporters are pissed off at the DNC for the Super Delegates and also
how Bernie was treated coming out of Iowa

Also I think this is one election cycle that a write in campaign could work.




Why a write-in? Why not get on the ballot in all 50 states as an independent?




Termyn8or -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 6:32:18 PM)

Ummm, that would be democracy Jag. It is illegal. They elected Mosadeq in Iran back in 1952 and look what happened. They elected Chavez over and over and look what happened.

The political parties have a message for you : "You will elect who WE SAY, you pieces of shit are lucky we even give you two choices, both of whom work for us".

Is that clear ?

If Hillary fucking Clinton gets the nomination, that proves that US elections are invalid. Some across the world already consider them invalid because of the low turnout.

T^T




MrRodgers -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 8:12:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"The Reagan people didn't like H.W. Bush and his people at all. Bush ridiculed Reagan's economic policy as Voodoo Economics. "

Yeah, and we got Hillary bitching publicly about the big banks and she got the most money from them than anyone. Lying cheating bitch.

They'll say whatever needs to be said.

T^T

Of course that was hardly my point. My point is that the establishment singular, requires ALL presidents to play ball with their policies. Reagan wanted no part of H.W. Bush yet took him on as VP. HRC is BTW every bit as much as Kerry, Cruz, Rubio, et al...part of that establishment.

Obama is playing ball. On many important issues, is W's 3rd term. First, he quickly supported the bailout, then failed to prosecute anyone. Then extended the tax cuts, then threw a 'surge' at Iraq and without a reduction if force agreement from W, extended our stay in Iraq. Kept GITMO open for 7 more years and counting. In less than a cup-a-coffee, abandoned single payer heath and adopted the repub plan of 92-93.

Then he threw more troops at Afghan. and supported its corrupt govt. and outlandish spending. Oversaw an almost tripling of the DOW, helped create 6 'bigger' banks too big to fail down from 13...too big to fail. Allowed oil drilling in the Arctic where a lot less oil was found than estimated. Let fracking go virtually unchecked, contaminating water tables and causing earthquakes. Is now touting the TPP agreement.

(hell, the establishment held on to Nixon for as long as they possibly could but his VP [Agnew] had to resign being as corrupt but once Ford was VP...even tricky Dick could go) The 'establishment' is the singularity of the elites...the power behind the throne.

The list just goes on and on.




JVoV -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 10:34:14 PM)

I would support Bernie as an independent, should he continue his campaign after the Democratic National Convention.

But if he chooses to endorse Hillary, I'll go with that too.




Lucylastic -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 11:26:29 PM)

Given that Cruz did well tonite, does that make a difference... If Cruz is named nominee? will Trump go Independent, does that change minds about Bernie or Hils?
I have been for bern, He would get my vote for sure. The Dems have fucked him over. I would have to vote for Hils, holding my nose. She is too far to the right, but the right are scared of her, which yeah pleases me.
OF course, Im not able to vote:)

Cruz is worse than trump(violence aside) but the cracks are spreading fast.




VeryMercurial -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/5/2016 11:54:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Until people are ready to accept the fact that there a singularity to the establishment...there will be no progress at all.

The Reagan people didn't like H.W. Bush and his people at all. Bush ridiculed Reagan's economic policy as Voodoo Economics. Bush & Co. were the Ivy League know-it-all's. But when it came to getting money to defeat the incumbent, the 'establishment' told Reagan...take H.W. Bush as VP.

Reagan once elected, still didn't want to play ball. You know what happened and [he] got real lucky. Then the 'establishment's' poster boy Bush I followed up and became pres. and continued their policies, war, spending, tax cuts and deficits.

Now, soon as B. Clinton got the numbers as did Reagan in 1980 and with Perot, the 'establishment' got to [him] right away and he rolled over like the whore he was. Reformed welfare, don't badger the fed, ride the dot.com boom, passed NAFTA and signed the 'reform' of Glass-Steagall.

Obama was going to steamroll McCain, Hillary was already in the fold, Obama immediately played ball and now you have Trump and Sanders the outliers. Sanders has no chance and Trump becomes the real target. So watch very, very closely and you will notice how every establishment outlet, fixture and potential will go after Trump so even if nominated, his fate will be that of McCain.

Here's a good indicator, take a very close look at whoever Trump's choice for VP is. Let's see if he really or is not...'establishment.'



Sad but obviously true




Greta75 -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/6/2016 12:06:14 AM)

I'm just glad Rubio won nothing. I think his strategy is so stupid to go down on Trump's level. Anybody with sense, can see that, that's not a good leader, when you play childish and go down on the other person's level. The difference is. Trump has consistently been this way, all his life, people know him as this petty person. I mean, even on Fox News, he told O'Reilly straight, that O'Reilly has not been kind and fair to him. His always been that way. So it's consistent with his character.

But Rubio was trying to display himself as a stately ready for hte job, next Obama type of person. But his not at Obama level at all.

On the other hand, I think the Dems are really treating Sanders poorly as Trump would put it. And this super delegates BS should be scraped.

Sometimes it's like, while democrats wanna look like they are more for freedom or whatever, I always seen them as more against freedom. The way this super delegates work is meant to influence the Dem Nominee, give the party more control on who gets the nominee. They aren't respecting people's genuine choice. Such a bad example for freedom of choice.

Good on Sanders to win some states though.




Crouchingtiger77 -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/6/2016 3:11:08 AM)

How can those of you who support Bernie even think of voting for a woman,
who if she were like most women of moral character would have divorced
her husband after she learned he had raped Juanita Broderick or
how he sexually abused Kathleen Willey. And, yes he had a history
of raping women long before Hillary married the sleaze bag.


Hillary does not care about the welfare of women when it concerns
being abused by men.

And, then she after she signed the no disclosure agreement, she
then proceeded to break the law, and has had super top secret
material in her e mails, so secret that even some in the House and
the Senate with high clearances are not permitted to read the
e mails in question.

I am serious about this write in and am encouraging students
at the University of Iowa to begin the campaign.




captive4ever -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/6/2016 3:37:22 AM)

IMO he should have run as an independent in the first place. He never was and had never been a Democrat until he wanted the DNC's election machine to help him try (unsuccessfully) to beat Hillary. So much for his integrity. He changed parties just to run.




JVoV -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/7/2016 5:21:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: captive4ever

IMO he should have run as an independent in the first place. He never was and had never been a Democrat until he wanted the DNC's election machine to help him try (unsuccessfully) to beat Hillary. So much for his integrity. He changed parties just to run.


Bernie has always caucused with the Democrats in the Senate. I don't think that choosing a party in an attempt to give himself a bit more credibility as a serious candidate for President was a question of integrity.

Bernie represents what the Democratic party is supposed to be, but hasn't been able to embrace fully, because of how the system operates.

If nothing else, Bernie's campaign has given Hillary some desperately needed competition in the primaries.

I doubt that Bernie will continue his campaign after the convention, because it would risk the Republican nominee actually winning, which would be disasterous for our country, considering their frontrunners.

If somehow, Trump doesn't get the nomination, and continues to run as an independent, then I wouldn't doubt Bernie doing the same thing.




ifmaz -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/7/2016 5:54:29 PM)

FR

There can be no greater "fuck you" to Clinton and Trump than voting for a third-party candidate.




MrRodgers -> RE: I Propose Write In Campaign for Bernie Sanders (3/7/2016 9:43:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77

How can those of you who support Bernie even think of voting for a woman,
who if she were like most women of moral character would have divorced
her husband after she learned he had raped Juanita Broderick or
how he sexually abused Kathleen Willey. And, yes he had a history
of raping women long before Hillary married the sleaze bag.


Hillary does not care about the welfare of women when it concerns
being abused by men.

And, then she after she signed the no disclosure agreement, she
then proceeded to break the law, and has had super top secret
material in her e mails, so secret that even some in the House and
the Senate with high clearances are not permitted to read the
e mails in question.

I am serious about this write in and am encouraging students
at the University of Iowa to begin the campaign.

Never seen real moral character make a difference at least politically/economically since JFK. Now he fucked with 'em and you saw what happened. Even Carter was a charter member of the Trilateral comm. People to this day still believe the bullshit about how Carter was supposed to be so bad. He played ball from day one. When Reagan and W were fucking up, do you think the establishment gave a fuck ? NO !! Shit, they always had Cheney if anything 'happened' to W.

Even Truman played ball. Dropped two A bombs on Japan. First country to recognize Israel. Created the CIA and the NSA. Didn't fuck with the bankers or the oilmen.




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