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BDSM with children around - 3/16/2016 2:11:57 PM   
EvilSadist77b


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I'm the father of a toddler, and there are no better times in my life than when I have custody; I'm a very lucky daddy! Her mother and I split up late last year, sadly, but I'm now ready to start seeing other submissive ladies again, and eventually this will lead to another live-in relationship. It'll be a while before things get difficult- my little girl is only one! But eventually, I imagine, it will become more and more difficult to hide things from her. How do people tend to deal with a D/s relationship when there are children living in the house?
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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/16/2016 5:42:41 PM   
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Think of an old fashioned relationship. When he came home, I had dinner and a drink ready and when I was going someplace, I asked him first. As for sex, we waited till she went to sleep and if playing heavier, we did date nights....she went either to stay with friends/family or we'd hire a babysitter and stay at a hotel.

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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/16/2016 5:47:00 PM   
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What exactly are you going around her now that you imagine will become harder to do once she gets older? (That's not to imply you're doing anything inappropriate, it's just that to give you advice on how to do it when she's older, we first need to know what it is exactly which you cannot picture yourself being able to do as she gets older.)


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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/16/2016 5:50:47 PM   
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He turned to me one night at the dinner table and announced that I was never to buy Brussel sprouts again. None of our mixed rood so much as blinked an eye. When they see when they look at us is a couple that loves and respects each other. A couple that model healthy communication and relationship skills. We practice active listening and fair fighting. We made sure we were compatible.

These things are much more important than who decides if you're having chicken or stir fry for dinner.

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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 9:07:33 AM   
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My cats do not mind and sometimes get in the middle - those kinky cat b*stards

Keep all your toys in a locked chest...get from ebay for a good price and get me some muffins, though someone mentioned cosmic muffins on another thread so some of em too

Dont have children as i have said, i have had few girlfriends who have children. And I will not even spank the girl when their children are two bedrooms away. You cant tie them to the bed etc as there is always a risk a child gets up, perhaps ill, nightmares, and wanders into the room.

I think its about making more a scene / play when you do not have custody - you will not fetishly starve.

But there are people who always have children in the house it would be interesting if they could pop on here and offer a few lines of advice.


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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 12:03:54 PM   
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I plan on Ruby having regular sleep overs with her 3 extended families. :)

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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 1:26:08 PM   
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My cats do not mind and sometimes get in the middle - those kinky cat b*stards


oh gawd you just made me laugh at some memories....
I need some cosmic muffins too.

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My advice, is lock things away, wait until the kidlets are in bed, and for now, only get spanky when you dont have custody. Shes tiny yet, the twos are fun for nighttime visits from the sproglet, and interrupting all kinds of stuff.
Im also guessing it will depend on how you conduct your kink in every day life.
Expecting nudity in the house is one thing, even with kids(my parents were nudists around the house when I was little.) Is it realistic? bondage has the safety aspect, pain play and whipping/floggins creates noise, you just need to plan carefully how to lessen your problems:) .

Another thought, Little ones talk and it might not sit well with your ex....even if she is aware of your kinkness. when your lil one gets to school, then you really have possibility of interference from a lot of other nosy people..




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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 2:33:46 PM   
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Thanks for the replies all, and Wickedsdesires- my cats are just the same. The younger always did used to get curious during play with my ex! Mousekabob, thank you for your lovely reply but I'm both a dominant man and a feminist dad and don't really want to raise my little girl around traditional gender roles- she can be whatever she wants to be! And Lucylastic- thanks for a lovely reply, but at least I don have to worry about the ex- she's my former slave and has no intention of going back to vanilla herself:)

I suppose my worries are threefold:

1) As many have correctly pointed out I can just do kink when I haven't got custody for now, but who knows what the future holds? It would be prudent to think about what to do and read the good advice of people who've dealt with this situation.

2) Obviously the question won't arise for many years but eventually, when she's older... should I tell her?

2) As I hinted above, it's not all about play. BDSM extends beyond the bedroom in a relationship for me but I certainly have no time for male supremacy (there's no correlation between gender and D/s role!) and want to keep my little girl away from traditional gender roles. Has anyone managed to square that circle?

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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 3:26:37 PM   
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I suppose my worries are threefold:

1) As many have correctly pointed out I can just do kink when I haven't got custody for now, but who knows what the future holds? It would be prudent to think about what to do and read the good advice of people who've dealt with this situation.

You sound like a new dad:) thats not a bad thing. It is worrying, I had nightmares about what I was gonna do or be doing, with her at three or four, I couldnt even fathom pre teens and teens. The hows and wheres and whys of bringing up kids isnt objective.

A lot of times, the issues work themselves out, for example, when my eldest was about two, I had a job as a sex toy and lingerie seller.
then at a small dinner party with family I have a Toddler running around wearing a flamboyant shiny pink pair of crotchless panties as a top!!!! she liked the fringe.
I had my own dildos too, in a locked drawer, except she crawled up behind it and got in from behind. That was the lesson about locking things away.


2) Obviously the question won't arise for many years but eventually, when she's older... should I tell her?

It comes sooner than you think:) But if you have a happy home with love and affection, it will give her comfort to ask you many things, be open but dont give them more than you would give your spinster aunt.or anyone elses child:)
You certainly can "plan" for events they go thru when they are growing up, personally not obsessing over it worked for us. I didnt have a D/s or BDSM relationship with my husband, but we were always looking to have rambunctious sex so I cant speak to the actual play/ aspect so I wont


2) As I hinted above, it's not all about play. BDSM extends beyond the bedroom in a relationship for me but I certainly have no time for male supremacy (there's no correlation between gender and D/s role!) and want to keep my little girl away from traditional gender roles. Has anyone managed to square that circle?

im domme, my husband is NOT submissive... however due to our jobs and outside interests while they were small, they were used to seeing us do domestic goddess duties together, not defined roles altho it turned out, it he still wanted to do the outside stuff:).
There are so many things to think about raising children, just dont forget the golden rule, lots of love, firmness and acceptance. dont worry so much, you turn around one day and they are 15. thats a whole other nightmare.

As I have no clue what its like to bring kids up in a BDSM relationship, I cant say any more:) I am not an expert.
I just wish you luck.
BTW you will make mistakes....sorry thats just human reality:)




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RE: BDSM with children around - 3/17/2016 3:27:44 PM   
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1) As many have correctly pointed out I can just do kink when I haven't got custody for now, but who knows what the future holds? It would be prudent to think about what to do and read the good advice of people who've dealt with this situation.



Again, what is it exactly that you are doing right now, which you picture can't be done around her when she's older?

There's no way to answer how to handle things when she's older, when we don't know what 'things' are.

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2) Obviously the question won't arise for many years but eventually, when she's older... should I tell her?



No you shouldn't tell her.

Or at the very least, you shouldn't talk to kink about her until she's old enough that you're not just discussing sex (birds and bees) with her, but you're also willing to discuss your personal sex life with her should she care to ask you about it.

At that point you should implement a "don't ask questions you don't want the answers to" policy (which I advice regarding regular sex life as well). It basically comes down to: if she asks, and really wants to know, be open and honest without being excessive with the details. If she doesn't ask, don't bring it up.

Let her find her own comfort level on how much she really wants to know.

There a father/son who both attend out local BDSM club. They both play there in public, while the other is present, with different people. They obviously both know and are comfortable to know.
Other kids will not want to know, and so they won't ask.

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2) As I hinted above, it's not all about play. BDSM extends beyond the bedroom in a relationship for me but I certainly have no time for male supremacy (there's no correlation between gender and D/s role!) and want to keep my little girl away from traditional gender roles. Has anyone managed to square that circle?


We're in a joint custody situation as well. We leave overt protocols to when the kids aren't here. When they're here, certain things stay in place, like the fact that I defer to their father when he makes a decision.
It's been explained to them that the reason this is the case, is because it works for us. Certain things are my domain, other things are their fathers domain, and we don't contradict each other when it comes to decisions made by the other one on stuff that's their domain.

For us, that falls into traditional gender roles. He's the breadwinner, I run the house. But it's been explained to the kids that the reason for this isn't because that's the way it should be, but rather that's the way it is because it's how it's best for us.

It's been explained to them that for other couples, other things work better, and so that a man could be a house husband, while the woman works, or that both are equal partners whom both work and divide the household labor.

They accept and understand that very easily.
Just because we're setting a 'traditional' gender division example doesn't mean that they're assuming that that's the 'right' way. They're aware of other options, and so far neither of them (boy and a girl) seem to be drawn to traditional gender roles.

The key seems to be that you emphasis that the reason your house runs the way it does is because that's how it runs best for you both, but that the fact that this happens to be correlated to traditional gender roles has to do with who you both are as individual people, and that it's got nothing to do with your gender.

The most important thing you can do is make sure that your child sees that you're not ashamed of who you are. It's fine to keep certain things out of view when they're not yet ready for it, but never act like you're hiding some dirty secret that they're not supposed to know about. Doing that will have them grow up feeling like it's somehow wrong, and bad, to be yourself, which isn't a message you want to pass on.

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