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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 1:05:23 AM   
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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 1:28:16 AM   
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Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.

And this is why, I do not support any religion at all, but no religion in this planet has gone straight out to even prevent women from having the right to leave their country without their husband's or father's permission. Prevent women from driving cars. Prevent women from showing anything of their entire bodies, except the eyes.

No other religion demands this!!!

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 1:31:12 AM   
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And the ignorance flows on...will it never die???
to be so willfuly ignorant is however beyond my ken to delve into why.

Just know that your opinion carries no weight with me, only beyond disgust at your lack of education.

And again, insults instead of actually trying to justify that I am wrong about what I said.

Sharia law IS Islam - FACT
Millions of Muslim women are INFACT forbidden to wear whatever they like to an extreme extent - FACT

Considering the middle east is one of the hottest places on earth, and in most countries, when it's hot, tank top and short shorts are the most comfortable thing to wear, to stay cool, and these poor women have to cover up from head to toe in black of all colour that makes it even hotter! That is Islam! The result of Islam.

Defend Islam all you want, but I know deep down, NONE of you want Islam or Sharia laws to be implemented in your country, because you know, it's a horrible nightmare world for women if that happens.

I think it's even more disgusting a woman would support Islam.

I will never stand by anybody who protects and defends any belief that subjugate women. NEVER!

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 1:47:51 AM   
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You are the one harping on about islam not me, Im not defending it, or condoning it.
Im discussing your posts,, your ignorance.
Not defending Islam.



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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 2:27:52 AM   
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The problem with any religion controlling government is that throughout history, the religious elite have been hypocritical bastards. Even Christ got pissed off about it, like a lot.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 3:30:15 AM   
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Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


Christianity and Islam have both had periods of their history when female power and emancipation have been part of their culture, particularly in 12th and 13th century Islamic cultures around the Mediterranean where a few women became military generals.

Gender roles have far more to do with cultural norms than with religion. For example, if you are on a packed bus would you get out of your seat to allow a standing woman to sit down? If "yes" is that because of religion? And the famous Birkenhead Drill (women and children first in the event of an emergency) - if you were on a sinking ship and there were not enough lifeboats should the women take priority as they did on the Titanic? And was that due to religious belief?

One important exception to this - Catholicism in the medieval era. After the great plagues had cut a bloody swath through the population of Europe ANY notion of sex without procreation was deemed heretical, even dangerous, due the fact that huge numbers of people had died and there was a genuine fear that humans could die out. Contraception was outlawed, and thus the experts on contraception (female physicians who knew about matters of birthing, midwives in other words) were often called out as witches and executed. But even there it the reason was tied to real world events rather than religious reasoning. The religion just gave the people of the time the justification they needed to go through with their atrocities.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 3:53:00 AM   
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Sharia law IS Islam - FACT
Millions of Muslim women are INFACT forbidden to wear whatever they like to an extreme extent - FACT


Sharia law IS NOT Islam. Sharia law is Sharia law, and it is different things to different cultures.

Millions of Muslim women are indeed IN FACT forbidden to wear whatever they like, in countries such as France (where they are forbidden to dress as Muslims) and several other countries.

IN FACT there are more Muslim countries that ban najibs than force it. Read this:

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html

To forestall your next comment - I am not defending anything. I am merely pointing out that you've just spread a load of bullshit in the thread before anyone accidentally treads on it.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 5:32:53 AM   
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Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


unless your primary understanding of a "women's rights" is freedom to kill her unborn child, Christianity has done more for women around the world than any other religion in history.

and how ironic, given the site we are on here, if the other objection about Christianity and women's rights is the admonition for married women to be submissive to their husbands.

the short of the argument being, unless we more or less share the same values, we're not going to be seeing the same thing.





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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 5:50:43 AM   
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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 9:58:51 AM   
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And again, insults instead of actually trying to justify that I am wrong about what I said.


I have constantly pointed out with facts how ignorant you are and how stupid you are to think anyone except sanity would believe your shit.

Sharia law IS Islam - FACT
Millions of Muslim women are INFACT forbidden to wear whatever they like to an extreme extent - FACT

You have been shown to be full of shit .

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html



LOL - do you even read your own shit. This article confirms that yes, indeed millions of muslim women, do, indeed have to wear burqas.


As for the rest of it - finding one idiot that says wearing black robes in a desert makes sense does not a fact establish.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 10:05:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


unless your primary understanding of a "women's rights" is freedom to kill her unborn child, Christianity has done more for women around the world than any other religion in history.

and how ironic, given the site we are on here, if the other objection about Christianity and women's rights is the admonition for married women to be submissive to their husbands.

the short of the argument being, unless we more or less share the same values, we're not going to be seeing the same thing.








Except that so many non-religion things have done so so much more for all people in the world, including women than will ever be done in the name of religion, it is like comparing paper clips to Stonehenge.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 10:41:05 AM   
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LOL - do you even read your own shit. This article confirms that yes, indeed millions of muslim women, do, indeed have to wear burqas.

Which represents a fraction of a single digit percentage of muslims. You really only open your mouth to change feet


As for the rest of it - finding one idiot that says wearing black robes in a desert makes sense does not a fact establish.


Why do you feel that mit and tel aviv university constitute one idiot?
Doesn't having both feet in your mouth at the same time hurt?

Amiram Shkolnik, C. Richard Taylor*, Virginia Finch* & Arieh Borut
Department of Zoology, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, Israel
*Museum of Comparative Zoology, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138


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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/18/2016 7:59:44 PM   
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"He had the N____ down, he had the N____ down and he let him up". Ever hear that ? It's from Arkansas.

T^T

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/21/2016 5:16:08 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-kkk_us_56e7373ae4b0b25c918304f2

Hey, All the mainstream media gave Trump soooo much shit for having KKK or white supremacist endorse him!

But they endorse Hillary, sweep under the carpet! Why don't they question why KKK supports Hillary too!????





You are still not actually reading your links before you post them, are you Greta.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/22/2016 5:31:38 AM   
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Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


unless your primary understanding of a "women's rights" is freedom to kill her unborn child, Christianity has done more for women around the world than any other religion in history.

and how ironic, given the site we are on here, if the other objection about Christianity and women's rights is the admonition for married women to be submissive to their husbands.

the short of the argument being, unless we more or less share the same values, we're not going to be seeing the same thing.



So you're saying chicks should be grateful to pay a luxury tax on tampons, because at least we aren't sending them to wander out in the wilderness when they bleed.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/22/2016 5:37:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


unless your primary understanding of a "women's rights" is freedom to kill her unborn child, Christianity has done more for women around the world than any other religion in history.

and how ironic, given the site we are on here, if the other objection about Christianity and women's rights is the admonition for married women to be submissive to their husbands.

the short of the argument being, unless we more or less share the same values, we're not going to be seeing the same thing.



So you're saying chicks should be grateful to pay a luxury tax on tampons, because at least we aren't sending them to wander out in the wilderness when they bleed.

or when we curdle milk

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/22/2016 7:18:14 AM   
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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/22/2016 12:24:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Is there any major religion that actually supports women's rights at all? Certainly not Judaism or Christianity.


unless your primary understanding of a "women's rights" is freedom to kill her unborn child, Christianity has done more for women around the world than any other religion in history.

and how ironic, given the site we are on here, if the other objection about Christianity and women's rights is the admonition for married women to be submissive to their husbands.

the short of the argument being, unless we more or less share the same values, we're not going to be seeing the same thing.



So you're saying chicks should be grateful to pay a luxury tax on tampons, because at least we aren't sending them to wander out in the wilderness when they bleed.


if you want actual dialog on the topic or to seek understanding as to how I could say what I did, lemme know...

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/22/2016 4:58:22 PM   
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if you want actual dialog on the topic or to seek understanding as to how I could say what I did, lemme know...



Your joke remark that Christianity has done more for womens rights than all other Religions is laughable.

More chance of me supporting that fuckwit Trump than seeking understand such as yours.

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RE: KKK Leader Endorses Hillary - 3/23/2016 11:11:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
And the ignorance flows on...will it never die???
to be so willfuly ignorant is however beyond my ken to delve into why.

Just know that your opinion carries no weight with me, only beyond disgust at your lack of education.

And again, insults instead of actually trying to justify that I am wrong about what I said.

Sharia law IS Islam - FACT
Millions of Muslim women are INFACT forbidden to wear whatever they like to an extreme extent - FACT

Considering the middle east is one of the hottest places on earth, and in most countries, when it's hot, tank top and short shorts are the most comfortable thing to wear, to stay cool, and these poor women have to cover up from head to toe in black of all colour that makes it even hotter! That is Islam! The result of Islam.

Defend Islam all you want, but I know deep down, NONE of you want Islam or Sharia laws to be implemented in your country, because you know, it's a horrible nightmare world for women if that happens.

I think it's even more disgusting a woman would support Islam.

I will never stand by anybody who protects and defends any belief that subjugate women. NEVER!



REEAAALLLYYY???.... then you should be kicking the other conservative men in this thread in the balls for supporting a party that:

supports a law that saddles women with children even in cases of rape, & incest,
supports laws that allow women to be paid less than men, because really, all you women are going to do is get married and pregnant anyway in their mind.

so those people u keep sucking up to are not ur real friends.



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