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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 4:05:56 PM

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why aren't bernie sanders PAC's running this footage.

Because he doesn't have PACs?

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/21/2016 12:55:52 AM

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why aren't bernie sanders PAC's running this footage.

Because he doesn't have PACs?

The real answer is that bernie thought that not having PACS gave him a political advantage; which is it did. But it also imposed constraints / disadvantages.
The disadvantage is that if he wanted to run this footage now, he'd have to use campaign cash to do it. Which breaks his vow to not go negative.

But the real question - which you didn't even attempt to answer - was why isn't he trying to make the point. It seems to me his campaign is careful not to damage clinton. Which implies he's running merely for leverage.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/21/2016 12:59:33 AM

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No because as usual with the republican propaganda machine the conversation was heavily edited... You or I don't know at what time of her position she or they were referring to. If they were talking her position in the campaign then no it had not changed. Hell we can't even be sure what position she was talking about.

Oh Bullshit. I remember clinton being against gay marriage.
I remember when she changed position.
And I've seen footage on all the major news channels where she claims she didn't change her position.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/21/2016 7:18:34 AM

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Right... that is why in every example of this little propaganda clip the edit picks out certain words then cuts off the full response... Surely you are not this naive.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/21/2016 7:59:43 AM

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Right... that is why in every example of this little propaganda clip the edit picks out certain words then cuts off the full response... Surely you are not this naive.

Get your thesaurus out butch...naive is not a synonym for disingenuous.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/22/2016 8:29:48 PM

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As a Brit, we have to put up with a PM who very likely put his dick into a pigs mouth, albeit an expired snout.. But you Yanks have class. You get an orange fool with a cat on his head who's so into his daughter it's cringe making, who loved illiterates (feels at home with, supposedly) who'd love to beat up critics who attend his rallies.. Who thinks Putin is cool...
Or. A liar, a cheat, a traitor who's sold out American resources to foreign companies (your uranium is now owned by Russia) and who sacks any honest staff members or intimidated young women who her husband molested.
Hey guys you're going to get the government you deserve unless these idiots are stopped soon.
Just sayin'
We're no better off here in the UK. Our government is from the privileged class and they'd sooner take a poor guys wheelchair than tax their banking buddies properly. We derserve it. Do you?

Waaaaa
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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/22/2016 8:41:57 PM

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No because as usual with the republican propaganda machine the conversation was heavily edited... You or I don't know at what time of her position she or they were referring to. If they were talking her position in the campaign then no it had not changed. Hell we can't even be sure what position she was talking about.

Oh Bullshit. I remember clinton being against gay marriage.
I remember when she changed position.
And I've seen footage on all the major news channels where she claims she didn't change her position.

I have to agree with the Phydeaux on this one. Bullshit.

The bottom line... I don't begrudge anyone for changing their mind on something. As long as they admit and explain how their thinking has changed (even Donald Trump has done this).

Hilary is just flat out dishonest about changing her position in the first place.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/22/2016 9:15:40 PM

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No because as usual with the republican propaganda machine the conversation was heavily edited... You or I don't know at what time of her position she or they were referring to. If they were talking her position in the campaign then no it had not changed. Hell we can't even be sure what position she was talking about.

Oh Bullshit. I remember clinton being against gay marriage.
I remember when she changed position.
And I've seen footage on all the major news channels where she claims she didn't change her position.

I have to agree with the Phydeaux on this one. Bullshit.

The bottom line... I don't begrudge anyone for changing their mind on something. As long as they admit and explain how their thinking has changed (even Donald Trump has done this).

Hilary is just flat out dishonest about changing her position in the first place.

And I agree with you. Change your mind once - explain why - I'm with you. Two different subjects, hmm maybe. Around the third time it just smacks of "I have no core principles and will say/do whatever to get elected"

Ie., crook.

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