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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 5:58:58 AM   
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so you are saying then

How about you quit putting words in my mouth and read what the phoque I said.





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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 6:08:42 AM   
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"so you are saying then" is an attempt to understand and clarify "what the phoque you said."

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 6:25:51 AM   
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"so you are saying then" is an attempt to understand and clarify "what the phoque you said."

So you are saying then that you have your head up your ass so far that you need a periscope to see where you are going?

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 8:08:09 AM   
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so you are saying then that it is physically imposssible for it to have come from the current citaqtion from SCOTUS. Please explain how SCOTUA made such a mistake in their website? Or is it possible that they infact got it right? Doesn't matter if the statement came originally from Heller, It is listed in the current opinion. And that the cut and paste that I stated, is in fact correct I am not argueing Heller, only the current opinion. Heller is done.



HAHA!
Leave it to felch to come up with some immaterial minutia by trying to separate of gnat shit from fly shit. That is why he is the only one I have ever put on iggy.

the court reaffirmed that she has the right to self defense and used the proper language, "bear arms" which includes nukes since they are 'arms'.

Keep in mind that felchs panties are too tight and takes issue with your posting only the decision without the ruling then bloating that frivolous minutia to appear as if there is a bonafide problem. There is not. You quoted the source for anyone to read who had a need for further review the background and this is not a court governed by frcp.




Moving forward to matters of import, this exposes several problems in gubblemint today. Take notice of the way the states created 'abstractions' of the language to create law that is ultimately unconstitutional.

Even the supreme court is guilty of this shit because the legal industry is BIG business but they are much more careful about.

Note the use of the words, 'gun', 'weapon' in the laws ANYTHING but 'arms'.

Note the foothold they try to gain by adding their own flavor of bullshit: 'dangerous' and 'unusual', as if any of that trash is relevant to the meaning and intent of organic law.

The creeemeo supreeeeeemeos even go so far as to outright lie to us, when they stated in their obiter dicta that the state keeps us safe. Nothing could be farther than the truth. Take that to court and they will hand you your ass on a silver platter. This kind of court injected bullshit creates a constant confusion and fuels the 'judicial business' ad infinitum.

Another one they use constantly is that the term 'constitutional protection' which carries and distorts the meaning of a 'reserved right' to a governed 'state created' privilege by shifting jurisdiction 'under' their umbrella.

Reserved rights are not UNDER the constitution they are set out or set apart from it and NOT UNDER the laws of the united states.

To further explain a 'reserved' right; If you and I contractually agreed to your reservation of a right for your dog to shit on my flower bed, then I have no right to try and regulate, govern, or infringe upon you letting your dog shit in my flower bed. In other words it would be outside my jurisdiction to attempt to do so.

The duty of the courts and the lord god gubblemint begins and ends at insuring our 'reserved' rights remain in tact. Instead they have become the enemy of the people attacking the people using gw1984 as their constitution.





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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 8:20:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey

so you are saying then that it is physically imposssible for it to have come from the current citaqtion from SCOTUS. Please explain how SCOTUA made such a mistake in their website? Or is it possible that they infact got it right? Doesn't matter if the statement came originally from Heller, It is listed in the current opinion. And that the cut and paste that I stated, is in fact correct I am not argueing Heller, only the current opinion. Heller is done.



HAHA!
Leave it to felch to come up with some immaterial minutia by trying to separate of gnat shit from fly shit. That is why he is the only one I have ever put on iggy.

the court reaffirmed that she has the right to self defense and used the proper language, "bear arms" which includes nukes since they are 'arms'.

Keep in mind that felchs panties are too tight and takes issue with your posting only the decision without the ruling then bloating that frivolous minutia to appear as if there is a bonafide problem. There is not. You quoted the source for anyone to read who had a need for further review the background and this is not a court governed by frcp.




Moving forward to matters of import, this exposes several problems in gubblemint today. Take notice of the way the states created 'abstractions' of the language to create law that is ultimately unconstitutional.

Even the supreme court is guilty of this shit because the legal industry is BIG business but they are much more careful about.

Note the use of the words, 'gun', 'weapon' in the laws ANYTHING but 'arms'.

Note the foothold they try to gain by adding their own flavor of bullshit: 'dangerous' and 'unusual', as if any of that trash is relevant to the meaning and intent of organic law.

The creeemeo supreeeeeemeos even go so far as to outright lie to us, when they stated in their obiter dicta that the state keeps us safe. Nothing could be farther than the truth. Take that to court and they will hand you your ass on a silver platter. This kind of court injected bullshit creates a constant confusion and fuels the 'judicial business' ad infinitum.

Another one they use constantly is that the term 'constitutional protection' which carries and distorts the meaning of a 'reserved right' to a governed 'state created' privilege by shifting jurisdiction 'under' their umbrella.

Reserved rights are not UNDER the constitution they are set out or set apart from it and NOT UNDER the laws of the united states.

To further explain a 'reserved' right; If you and I contractually agreed to your reservation of a right for your dog to shit on my flower bed, then I have no right to try and regulate, govern, or infringe upon you letting your dog shit in my flower bed. In other words it would be outside my jurisdiction to attempt to do so.

The duty of the courts and the lord god gubblemint begins and ends at insuring our 'reserved' rights remain in tact. Instead they have become the enemy of the people attacking the people using gw1984 as their constitution.






You need your spanked blood red ass handed back to you, and it won't be on a silver platter.
Nukes are so unpleasant and nasty, Mother Nature hates them. The past rears its ugly head from time to time.
Keep typing, I assure you it is fit for publish.



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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 8:32:03 AM   
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my point however is: Reserved rights

If you do not like nukes then I suggest that you collect then all from the US military who has no problem using them for anything and everything. Care to see pictures of all the iraqi birth defects? The people have the right to use any 'arm' the military uses. Oh wait I forgot, you cant afford a cool million for a small couple kiloton nuke or a multi million dollar drone to deliver it

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 8:57:19 AM   
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oh and to correct the typo to make it match dealing with a gubblemint:

From:
To further explain a 'reserved' right; If you and I contractually agreed to your reservation of a right for your dog to shit on my flower bed, then I have no right to try and regulate, govern, or infringe upon you letting your dog shit in my flower bed. In other words it would be outside my jurisdiction to attempt to do so.

The duty of the courts and the lord god gubblemint begins and ends at insuring our 'reserved' rights remain in tact. Instead they have become the enemy of the people attacking the people using gw1984 as their constitution.

to:

To further explain a 'reserved' right; If you and I contractually agreed to your reservation of a right for your dog to shit on my flower bed, then I have no 'authority' to try and regulate, govern, or infringe upon you letting your dog shit in my flower bed. In other words it would be outside my jurisdiction to attempt to do so.

The duty of the courts and the lord god gubblemint begins and ends at insuring our 'reserved' rights remain in tact. Instead they have become the enemy of the people attacking the people using gw1984 as their constitution.


It doesnt matter if your dog has turds of mass stankation, or if it buries the flowers completely, a contract is a contract and it takes agreed consideration on the part of all parties to change it.

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 8:58:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

my point however is: Reserved rights

If you do not like nukes then I suggest that you collect then all from the US military who has no problem using them for anything and everything. Care to see pictures of all the iraqi birth defects? The people have the right to use any 'arm' the military uses. Oh wait I forgot, you cant afford a cool million for a small couple kiloton nuke or a multi million dollar drone to deliver it


Real one.
I agree, we need out of there. We have not used nuclear weapons in decades btw.
We can not solve the problems. We have caused no genetic problems associated with nuclear weapons to children that's a lie.
We have our own country to care for, who is suffering 10 fold.
We are bringing home all our people, and I sincerely hope the people figure it out, over there.
We want zero involvement.


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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 9:12:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

my point however is: Reserved rights

If you do not like nukes then I suggest that you collect then all from the US military who has no problem using them for anything and everything. Care to see pictures of all the iraqi birth defects? The people have the right to use any 'arm' the military uses. Oh wait I forgot, you cant afford a cool million for a small couple kiloton nuke or a multi million dollar drone to deliver it


Real one.
I agree, we need out of there. We have not used nuclear weapons in decades btw.
We can not solve the problems. We have caused no genetic problems associated with nuclear weapons to children that's a lie.
We have our own country to care for, who is suffering 10 fold.
We are bringing home all our people, and I sincerely hope the people figure it out, over there.
We want zero involvement.




https://www.google.com/search?q=depleted+uranium+rounds+for+sale&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjczbicl9fLAhVDVyYKHT3rA0YQsAQIIQ

News To Make You Furious- Depleted Uranium: Our billion year gift to the world.
http://tomdwyer.com/2012/uncategorized/news-to-make-you-furious-depleted-uranium-our-billion-year-gift-to-the-world/

In the 1970s, the Soviet military developed armor plating for their tanks that regular ammunition couldn’t penetrate. The Pentagon began looking for metals to make denser armor-piercing projectiles, and finally settled on depleted uranium (DU). DU is a byproduct of nuclear power generation; after the uranium has been spent in the reactor it leaves behind an isotope of the original uranium that is 1.6 times denser than lead. DU rounds are now common in heavy weapons like tanks, aircraft, and artillery.


The Responsibility of the US in Contaminating Iraq with Depleted Uranium

The following text was presented to the Kuala Lumpur International Conference to Criminalise War, Putra World Trade Centre, 28-31 October 2009.

For two decades, the administrations of the United States of America and the United Kingdom have been waging continuous wars on Iraq to occupy this oil rich country.

The armed forces of those two countries attacked civilians with different kinds of conventional, non-conventional, and banned weapons such as cluster bombs ammunitions, napalm bombs, white phosphorous weapons and depleted Uranium weapons.

Depleted Uranium (DU) is a radioactive and chemically toxic heavy metal. If ingested, inhaled, or it enters the human body through wounds or skin, it remains there for decades.

Within the human body the (DU) particles would be a continuous source for emitting alpha particles. With its toxic effects, published research & epidemiological studies have proved that it causes serious health damages to the human body. Some of the damage to the human body is to lymph tissue, kidneys, developing fetuses, neurological system, the bones, lung fibrosis, and an increase in the risk of many types of cancer and malignancies.

Hundreds of tons of (DU) expenditure have been fired & exploded on Iraqi highly populated areas like Basrah, Baghdad, Nasriya, Dewania, Samawa, and other cities.

Exploration programs and site measurements by Iraqi and non-Iraqi researchers all proved the existence of (DU) related contamination over most Iraqi territories.

Iraq’s Minister of Environment admitted in July 23, 2007 in Cairo that “at least 350 sites in Iraq are contaminated with (DU)”. She added that the nation is facing a tremendous number of cancer cases and called for the international community to help Iraq cope with this problem.

A few years after exposure to (DU) contamination, multifold increase of malignancies, congenital malformations, miscarriages, children leukemia, and sterility cases have been registered in suburb areas of Basrah and other surrounding areas. Similar problems appeared in Falluja, where illegal weapons were also used intensively in the 2004 attack of occupation forces on the city. More than two million of the Iraqi population died since 1991 because of the synergic multiple impact of using (DU) weapons, economical sanctions, and the destruction of the health care systems.

The economical sanction that were also imposed by USA and UK administrations deprived the children and people of Iraq their rights in food, potable water, health care, sanitation and other life supporting necessities.

The USA and UK administrations have subjected the whole nation of Iraq for two decades to torture and slow death through the intentional use of radioactive weapons and the sanctions. The continuous and intentional use of radioactive weapons is a crime against humanity due to its undifferentiating harmful health effects on civilians in contaminated areas tens of years to come after the military engagements. The existence of (DU) radioactive contamination in the surrounding environment is a continuous source of exposure to low level radiation. This exposure can be considered as a systematic attack on Iraqi civilians in an armed conflict, according to Article 4 of the official regulations and Article 7 of the ICC.

This paper is submitted to present the facts and scientific evidences regarding the intentional use of the USA and UK administrations of depleted uranium weapons against the people and environment of Iraq, in addition to the health consequences that have been result from them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-responsibility-of-the-us-in-contaminating-iraq-with-depleted-uranium/15966




Of course I am sure we will make up for it by establishing multimillion dollar hospital facilities and give them quantity discount wholesale pricing.

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 9:21:24 AM   
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Cleaning up more than 300 sites in Iraq still contaminated by depleted uranium (DU) weapons will cost at least $30m, according to a report by a Dutch peace group to be published on Thursday.

The report, which was funded by the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, warns that the contamination is being spread by poorly regulated scrap metal dealers, including children. It also documents evidence that DU munitions were fired at light vehicles, buildings and other civilian infrastructure including the Iraqi Ministry of Planning in Baghdad – casting doubt on official assurances that only armoured vehicles were targeted. "The use of DU in populated areas is alarming," it says, adding that many more contaminated sites are likely to be discovered.

More than 400 tonnes of DU ammunition are estimated to have been fired by jets and tanks in the two Iraq wars in 1991 and 2003, the vast majority by US forces. The UK government says that British forces fired less than three tonnes.

DU is a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal produced as waste by the nuclear power industry. It is used in weapons because it is an extremely hard material capable of piercing armour.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/mar/06/iraq-depleted-uranium-clean-up-contamination-spreads

by none other than the fucking 'good guys' who WILFULLY violate every damn law on the planet to achieve their imperialist agenda.

Do you know what the half life is of that shit?



and then the statist pundits hit the scene condeming ISIS,

and wage a religious war against muslims!

after all what possible reason could anyone in the ME have to complain?

we are after all the good guys!

AMERICA



< Message edited by Real0ne -- 3/23/2016 9:32:21 AM >


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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 9:45:42 AM   
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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 11:01:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

more:

Cleaning up more than 300 sites in Iraq still contaminated by depleted uranium (DU) weapons will cost at least $30m, according to a report by a Dutch peace group to be published on Thursday.

The report, which was funded by the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, warns that the contamination is being spread by poorly regulated scrap metal dealers, including children. It also documents evidence that DU munitions were fired at light vehicles, buildings and other civilian infrastructure including the Iraqi Ministry of Planning in Baghdad – casting doubt on official assurances that only armoured vehicles were targeted. "The use of DU in populated areas is alarming," it says, adding that many more contaminated sites are likely to be discovered.

More than 400 tonnes of DU ammunition are estimated to have been fired by jets and tanks in the two Iraq wars in 1991 and 2003, the vast majority by US forces. The UK government says that British forces fired less than three tonnes.

DU is a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal produced as waste by the nuclear power industry. It is used in weapons because it is an extremely hard material capable of piercing armour.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/mar/06/iraq-depleted-uranium-clean-up-contamination-spreads

by none other than the fucking 'good guys' who WILFULLY violate every damn law on the planet to achieve their imperialist agenda.

Do you know what the half life is of that shit?



and then the statist pundits hit the scene condeming ISIS,

and wage a religious war against muslims!

after all what possible reason could anyone in the ME have to complain?

we are after all the good guys!

AMERICA





Old news realone. Same story in every place the US fights for the last 20 years.

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 2:20:55 PM   
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I think thompsonx has a secret fetish for fur seals


Ruby fruit is only called a fur seal when no one mows the lawn.


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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 4:16:00 PM   
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Leave it to felch to come up with some immaterial minutia by trying to separate of gnat shit from fly shit.

But then you go on to reiterate and defend my position.


the court reaffirmed that she has the right to self defense


That is why he is the only one I have ever put on iggy.

Those who do not posses the intellectual where with all to discuss a subject with me take the most prudent path.

the court reaffirmed that she has the right to self defense and used the proper language, "bear arms" which includes nukes since they are 'arms'.

It did not say that you may posses a nuke.


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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 4:24:05 PM   
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Massachusetts used the logic of 'the second amendment doesn't apply because stun guns didn't exist when it was written'. This was the primary issue with the law's standing.

Which the court pointed out was settled law based on heller an mcdonald

It shows that basic concepts of the Constitution and Bill of Rights must be applied to all new technology.

The case wasnt actually decided by the Supreme Court, but instead kicked back to the lower court with specific directions.


Exactly...with the admonition that self defense is an absolute right.

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/23/2016 4:25:08 PM   
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From that - how do you get the position that no second amendment right applies?

I did not say that. So please go argue with yourself because you are the one who just said that.


Frankly, you persistently advocate meanings at variance with the plain meaning of the words.

Perhaps you could get one of your teachers at school to help you read through it and understand what I said.


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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 3/24/2016 6:10:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

more:

Cleaning up more than 300 sites in Iraq still contaminated by depleted uranium (DU) weapons will cost at least $30m, according to a report by a Dutch peace group to be published on Thursday.

The report, which was funded by the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, warns that the contamination is being spread by poorly regulated scrap metal dealers, including children. It also documents evidence that DU munitions were fired at light vehicles, buildings and other civilian infrastructure including the Iraqi Ministry of Planning in Baghdad – casting doubt on official assurances that only armoured vehicles were targeted. "The use of DU in populated areas is alarming," it says, adding that many more contaminated sites are likely to be discovered.

More than 400 tonnes of DU ammunition are estimated to have been fired by jets and tanks in the two Iraq wars in 1991 and 2003, the vast majority by US forces. The UK government says that British forces fired less than three tonnes.

DU is a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal produced as waste by the nuclear power industry. It is used in weapons because it is an extremely hard material capable of piercing armour.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/mar/06/iraq-depleted-uranium-clean-up-contamination-spreads

by none other than the fucking 'good guys' who WILFULLY violate every damn law on the planet to achieve their imperialist agenda.

Do you know what the half life is of that shit?



and then the statist pundits hit the scene condeming ISIS,

and wage a religious war against muslims!

after all what possible reason could anyone in the ME have to complain?

we are after all the good guys!

AMERICA





Old news realone. Same story in every place the US fights for the last 20 years.




yep to people with their finger on the pulse, but remember there are still people running around believing all that world war 2 propaganda too, and that is really old news. So to some its an eye opener, especially those who get all their info from msm.

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RE: Latest 2n Amendment Case - 4/1/2016 6:59:21 AM   
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Old news realone. Same story in every place the US fights for the last 20 years.

No...not the past 20 years ....since day one.

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