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A Dangerous Faggot - 3/25/2016 11:19:18 AM   
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Milo is overwhelmingly right wing - he's a Trump supporter ffs (although I wonder if he's doing so ironically) , but find his opinions on the rise of Islam and the idiocy of the regressive left to be remarkably on point.

https://youtu.be/0OAnm0RpPkE

One of the things I find particularly interesting is that those most invested in the rise of victim culture and identity politics are exactly the same people who feel that mocking Christianity is something to which the concept of 'free speech' entitles them to.

What's interesting is how that concept of 'free speech' is suddenly done away with when it involves a threat to their investment in the political correctness of the victim-hood narrative. Silencing of speech is allowed if it would offend someone who ostensibly lacks power. Offending someone who's a member of an ostensibly powerful political class is permitted because.... well... it just is.

This, despite the fact that - for example - white, male janitors are rarely known for their possession of political power. And yet, offending white males of all stripes is okay and not to be policed because white men are apparently a homogeneous group who all possess identical privilege and power.

Which is FUCKING ironic, because it looks just like the regressive left is using Peon's ecological fallacy (similar to feminism) as a justification for censorship. So I have to laugh when a certain unrepentant and unthinking lefty tries to pretend that political correctness is simply an artifact of viewpoint, rather than a poorly-justified power move by leftists with a lack of intellectual honesty.

Yiannopoulos regards the rise of Trump as a reaction to the regressive left. I don't think that's completely true, although certainly the reaction of ordinary men and women to the social game-playing of chardonnay socialists is no doubt part of it. Trump is a reaction of the working class to the excesses of the political class on both sides. Against the lying corruption and self-serving stupidity of (mostly) Republicans, to the social engineering and victim-hood indulgence of the left.

The right are corrupt and arrogant enough to think the people no longer matter. The left are hopelessly mired in their own worldview and arrogantly think they know BETTER than the people. In both cases, it's - ironically - a political class who has lost touch with reality and thinks their causes are the only ones which matter.

That's the story behind the rise of Trump and Sanders. And at this point, I'm thinking Trump may be a better option than Hillary. Because if there's one organisation that needs to be taught about the importance of democratic principles, it's the fucking Democratic party. And their thumb-on-the-scales approach to the nomination race is a picture-perfect representation of their attitude towards ordinary men and women. "We know what's best for you, we can't trust you with this decision."

Anyway, back to the Dangerous Faggot. Milo is an interesting dichotomy as he's a gay man who's completely opposed to the culture of the left. What surprises me is that more gay men aren't lining up against the Islamic culture which singles them out for death (on a personal level. Jihad involves the death of non-Islams en masse on an impersonal level).

To clarify my own position, I believe in socialised medicine, regard Government regulations as critical to markets which work well for consumers and regard the social engineering of the left as a real problem which must be eradicated. I also think money needs to be removed from politics, believe that concentration of media power is an ongoing issue which must be addressed and that abortion rights are a subset of the wider issue of reproductive rights which sees women provided with options while men are lumbered with responsibilities. (Anyone who can't see that is as fundamentally intellectually dishonest as it's possible to be. This is not even an open question, you have to be a complete liar to assert otherwise.)

I am also fundamentally on-board with the principle of free-speech within limits - those limits being that which is necessary to the health of the body politic. (Yes, deciding what DOES and what DOESN'T fall outside those limits is a difficult exercise - this is why we have reasoned debate in the first place).

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing examples of the tide turning against the nonsensical propaganda of the left. I'm sick to death of the lies, fake piousness and almighty-dollar worship of the right, but I'm also sick to death of the deceptive, disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt pseudo-morality of the left. I'd like to think that people who are actually able to think might not be the minority I fear they are.

I don't participate here often because so much of what passes for debate here is so fucking stupid. The Conservative/Liberal tribes who throw rocks at each other are so unbelievably easily manipulated that their vote is as worthless as their arguments. What I want to know is if there's a group who can actually rub two brain cells together and actually think about what's going on in the world. If people exists for whom solutions to problems are more important than the testosterone buzz they get when the think their tribe has won something.

Because frankly, if the level of discourse in this forum is a representative sample of how America thinks, then we're all fucked and Trump will be President.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/25/2016 11:26:40 AM   
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Bravo.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 1:39:56 PM   
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I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing examples of the tide turning against the nonsensical propaganda of the left...I'm also sick to death of the deceptive, disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt pseudo-morality of the left.


I think the tide-turning notion is alive on college campuses across the country---starting probably in the early 90s if not sooner, but seemingly gaining momentum because of the increasing leftist oppression. in particular, on the "progressive education" thread that's on page 3 of the forums, I posted about one or two campus reactions to milo.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4785009/mpage_15/tm.htm#

ive also posted before of the irony of the left, given their stand on homosexuality, that their seeming unwavering support for islam is contradictory---except for their present common enemy of christianity.

last thing---though im not quite sure how to work it in---guy benson, a prominent editor of the conservative online magazine, townhall.com is openly gay.



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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 1:46:39 PM   
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Your thread seems to have returned.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 1:48:16 PM   
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Bravo.


Poor old Awareness. Way to get him a forum-full of enemies with just one word, Phydeaux!

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 1:50:37 PM   
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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 1:56:01 PM   
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sips his sipping chardonnay

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 2:00:42 PM   
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Milo is overwhelmingly right wing - he's a Trump supporter ffs

Great way to get attention.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 2:21:18 PM   
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Which is FUCKING ironic, because it looks just like the regressive left is using Peon's ecological fallacy (similar to feminism) as a justification for censorship. So I have to laugh when a certain unrepentant and unthinking lefty tries to pretend that political correctness is simply an artifact of viewpoint, rather than a poorly-justified power move by leftists with a lack of intellectual honesty.


*Sigh*. Drivel, Awareness. Go back to school.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 2:38:25 PM   
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Interesting backstory on MY:

The Kernel startup news blog could be forced by an employment tribunal to pay out up to £11,000 over its failure to pay a former contributor money they are owed.

The financial problems faced by the Kernel first surfaced in September 2012, when MediaGuardian reported that a number of former contributors were owed thousands of pounds.

One, Jason Hesse, who worked at the Kernel between March and May 2012, subsequently won a summary judgment from an employment tribunal hearing when Sentinel Media, the company that owns The Kernel, and for which co-founder Milo Yiannopoulos is the sole remaining director, failed to present a defence.

Hesse tweeted on 27 December [2012]: "It's been 8 months that I've waited to be paid by The Kernel (still not received a penny). Looking forward to the judge's award in 2 weeks!"

* * *

In emails seen by MediaGuardian, Yiannopoulos threatened to publish what he claimed were embarrassing details and photographs of one contributor who sought repayment . . . .


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jan/08/kernel-face-payout-order-contributor

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 3:14:11 PM   
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the bloke is a rightwing slobbering fuckwit, who is trading off his gayness. Fuck that wog.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 3:20:02 PM   
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Free speech is free speech regardless of which religion you are complimenting or abusing verbally. Sounds like you need a dictionary, which of the two words are you struggling with mr Christian?

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/26/2016 3:42:25 PM   
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Bly, and Bounty

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:03:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

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I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing examples of the tide turning against the nonsensical propaganda of the left...I'm also sick to death of the deceptive, disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt pseudo-morality of the left.


I think the tide-turning notion is alive on college campuses across the country---starting probably in the early 90s if not sooner, but seemingly gaining momentum because of the increasing leftist oppression. in particular, on the "progressive education" thread that's on page 3 of the forums, I posted about one or two campus reactions to milo.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4785009/mpage_15/tm.htm#
The reactions to Milo are a subset of an increasingly authoritarian leftism within academia which is actively hostile toward anyone who is not part of a minority group of one sort or another. The attempt to control language by censoring words and ideas is classic Orwellian stuff. And that's not hyperbole by any means. They really are replicating the idea that the state defines what ideas and words are acceptable to the populace.


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ive also posted before of the irony of the left, given their stand on homosexuality, that their seeming unwavering support for islam is contradictory---except for their present common enemy of christianity.
Yes, that's one of the two things which makes the left's pandering to Islam a monumental hypocrisy. Islam kills gay people -there's no equivocation on this point - and yet the left embraces them because any group which opposes white male culture is a victim.

Yet more evidence that the idiocy of the left is congenital.

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last thing---though im not quite sure how to work it in---guy benson, a prominent editor of the conservative online magazine, townhall.com is openly gay.
From the conversation Milo had with Rubin, I get the impression that Rubin is also gay but - until relatively recently - considered himself a liberal. However the authoritarian censorship and social engineering coming from the left is disturbing even him.


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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:04:45 AM   
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Which is FUCKING ironic, because it looks just like the regressive left is using Peon's ecological fallacy (similar to feminism) as a justification for censorship. So I have to laugh when a certain unrepentant and unthinking lefty tries to pretend that political correctness is simply an artifact of viewpoint, rather than a poorly-justified power move by leftists with a lack of intellectual honesty.


*Sigh*. Drivel, Awareness. Go back to school.
Now that's a surprise. A left-wing academic unable to support his ideas with reasoned argument. How uncommon!


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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:06:39 AM   
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the bloke is a rightwing slobbering fuckwit, who is trading off his gayness. Fuck that wog.
To be fair, I think Milo only slobbers over two things: Black cock (which he mentions incessantly) and Trump (whom he refers to as Daddy).



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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:17:10 AM   
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Massively under represented in reasoned argument, wot?

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:22:25 AM   
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Massively under represented in reasoned argument, wot?
Well considering the primary arguments tend to be "because feelings"... yes. The left is notoriously lacking in reasoned argument.


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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:25:47 AM   
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but as we have learned by repeated pointings out by yourself chiefly, the poofter is right of the most slobbering factless tory. (thats all of them, insofar as I am able to discern). He goes beyond putting his johnson in a pigs maw, and rather turns the table on the whole vignette, not a radical rightwing notion, the States have nutsuckers and have had them for eons.

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RE: A Dangerous Faggot - 3/27/2016 9:35:35 AM   
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but as we have learned by repeated pointings out by yourself chiefly, the poofter is right of the most slobbering factless tory. (thats all of them, insofar as I am able to discern). He goes beyond putting his johnson in a pigs maw, and rather turns the table on the whole vignette, not a radical rightwing notion, the States have nutsuckers and have had them for eons.
Throwing rocks at the other tribe? How quaint, yet how utterly predictable.


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