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AtUrCervix -> Women v. men (3/25/2016 7:16:55 PM)

Sub woman's profile:

"I am soooo tired of NO ONE reading my profile (does ANY male EVER read what I write??????). I am a sub woman, I want to be under Masters control...but here's a list of things I will NOT do: (27 lines of what will "NOT" happen....under ANY circumstances)....."

Sub males profile:

"Will someone please read my profile?"




GreedyTop -> RE: Women v. men (3/25/2016 11:12:49 PM)

your point?




FieryOpal -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 12:48:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

Sub males profile:

"Will someone please read my profile?"

sub manspeak for "Read my list of fetishes and kinks, including my fantasy porn journal entry, then describe how you plan to 'punish' me by fulfilling my wishes according to my detailed do-me scenario."

"Since you are an all-powerful, successful and wealthy Domme who should already have a designer fetish wardrobe and are used to generously hosting us lowly worm subs in your palatial abode so that you can have your way with our naked bodies down in your fully-stocked dungeon,
... and since you are a Goddess and not a *real* mortal woman, don't expect me to woo you, court you, or date you like an ordinary man would have to do. I am a boytoy/pet/pathetic slavedog/sissy slut, not a *real* man."

"You can expect every conversation to consist of how desperate I am to be owned by a Mistress, that my dream is to wait on you hand and foot and attend to all your needs 24/7. Except the standard vanilla sexual ones--I'm not man enough to be able to perform in the bedroom. You will lock me into chastity until my puny dick shrivels away, so it won't matter anyway."

"You can expect that every conversation will begin and end with how broke I am, even if you didn't bring up the subject of tribute."

Footnote: "Did you read the part where I write three times that I am seeking a live-in slave position because my last Mistress died?" + "I have my slave no. tattooed on my ass."

"P.S. Isn't that what all FemDoms want, loser males that can't make the grade with ordinary women?"




PeonForHer -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 3:20:01 AM)

FR

You know, I've just realised that I've read only a handful of other submales' profiles in all the time I've been here.




FieryOpal -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 3:38:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
FR

You know, I've just realised that I've read only a handful of other submales' profiles in all the time I've been here.

It's been a long while since I've had a look, but I think you have one of the best ones on this site.

I took literary license to fill in a lot of the blanks. Most males (not just subs) are not verbally expressive. You and OP are more talented than most, without being wackadoodles.
(Take a peek at another one of his recent OPs: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4890562/tm.htm )

FWIW, not to pick on male subs for being on the /s side of the kneel, there are plenty of male S/switches and male Doms whose social skills are subpar and can barely carry on a decent convo.[sm=injured.gif]




AtUrCervix -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 4:43:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

your point?


I had a point.....once....halfway through, I forgot it.

So....now, I just make observations :)




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 8:38:58 AM)

Dafuq?




Wayward5oul -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 11:04:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

your point?


I had a point.....once....halfway through, I forgot it.

So....now, I just make observations :)

LOL, I don't care who you are, that's funny.




sloguy02246 -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 5:43:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

Sub woman's profile:

"... I am a sub woman, I want to be under Masters control...but here's a list of things I will NOT do: (27 lines of what will "NOT" happen....under ANY circumstances)....."




This reminds me of every social/dating site, kink or vanilla, that I have visited.
Way too many profiles state they are "looking for the last love of my life" and then present a laundry list of attributes a potential partner MUST have to be considered and/or a list of negative traits that are non-negotiable deal killers.

A comedian who was speaking about dating sites noticed this phenomenon and retorted (to no one in particular), "Hey, pal! You're filling out a dating profile, not making a wish list for Santa Claus."





peppermint -> RE: Women v. men (3/26/2016 8:31:42 PM)

Was just reading a sub male's profile the other day and it had me laughing. He's willing to train a newbie Domme to dominate for the small fee of $25 an hour.




AtUrCervix -> RE: Women v. men (3/27/2016 4:43:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

Was just reading a sub male's profile the other day and it had me laughing. He's willing to train a newbie Domme to dominate for the small fee of $25 an hour.


I'd do it for $15.00.

(20% discount for the first 5 that sign up, group classes of 3 or more, another 7% off....sadly though....they won't get "personal" attention...I'm only one man after all).

But....she'd/they'd have to pay all travel expenses.

Of course.....food is additional.




Sahar4Blacks -> RE: Women v. men (4/2/2016 3:57:03 PM)

Sad but true. Made me laugh. Sorry.




PeonForHer -> RE: Women v. men (4/2/2016 4:15:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
FR

You know, I've just realised that I've read only a handful of other submales' profiles in all the time I've been here.

It's been a long while since I've had a look, but I think you have one of the best ones on this site.



Thank you!




Awareness -> RE: Women v. men (4/3/2016 6:58:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
and since you are a Goddess and not a *real* mortal woman, don't expect me to woo you, court you, or date you like an ordinary man would have to do. I am a boytoy/pet/pathetic slavedog/sissy slut, not a *real* man."
Look if you're going to style yourself as a goddess, you'd better have all the accoutrements.

And what the fuck are you bitching about that a sub male doesn't LEAD? You want to be in charge, but you want him leading the - for want of a more appropriate term - 'romantic' interaction?

What's wrong with this picture?





FieryOpal -> RE: Women v. men (4/5/2016 3:53:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
and since you are a Goddess and not a *real* mortal woman, don't expect me to woo you, court you, or date you like an ordinary man would have to do. I am a boytoy/pet/pathetic slavedog/sissy slut, not a *real* man."

Look if you're going to style yourself as a goddess, you'd better have all the accoutrements.

You don't read many sub male profiles, do you? I wouldn't expect that you do, being a straight Dom.

The ones braying on and on about, Where is my Goddess to serve? I am seeking a Superior Dominant woman to put me under her feet and keep me in abject slavery as her personal doormat, etc. etc., ad nauseam.

The topic is about the juxtaposition of female sub profiles and male sub profiles. It is not about dumbinant profiles of the Domme variety, which may or may not even be created by women, with the self-styled "Goddess" designation. In fact, I do not know a single relationship-oriented lifestyle Domme who goes around referring to herself as a "Goddess" in the Western hemisphere (Eastern hemisphere and in mainly Third World countries, every Mistress is called a Goddess and every sub calls himself/herself a slave).

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And what the fuck are you bitching about that a sub male doesn't LEAD? You want to be in charge, but you want him leading the - for want of a more appropriate term - 'romantic' interaction?

What's wrong with this picture?

How do I count the ways in which you have painted the wrong picture? You are mixing up a man (or woman) having a submissive disposition, with that of a passive one. They are not the same thing. A submissive, any submissive, needs to go after what s/he wants just as much as any Dominant does, in all areas of life. Submissive does not equate to being an underachiever.

Until such time that D/s interactions are established and mutually agreed upon, there is that little part about still being on a level-playing field.
The field of romantic courtship. You know, the one where the lady leads and her gentleman suitor picks up on her cues.

If you are not overly familiar with this, think back to yourself. Do you really believe you (as a man) have been the one who has made the choices, other than in winnowing down your selection of prospective ladies who have caught your interest?
It is the woman who chooses her partner.

No doubt, you may disagree with my assessment, but that doesn't matter to me. How you take or took the ball and ran with it, depends upon your individual characteristics and personality modality or typology. But, don't fool yourself for one minute that you were the one leading every dance step with the woman who "allowed" you to take the lead. You simply set the stage for her twirls and then pulled her back to you for her to make her next move.




OsideGirl -> RE: Women v. men (4/5/2016 4:09:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246

Way too many profiles state they are "looking for the last love of my life" and then present a laundry list of attributes a potential partner MUST have to be considered and/or a list of negative traits that are non-negotiable deal killers.



Actually, having a list of core values (mandatory), desirable attributes and deal breakers is considered a healthy way to be clear about what you're seeking, create boundaries for yourself and not settle.

It's a technique taught in psychology classes and it worked for me.




DesFIP -> RE: Women v. men (4/5/2016 8:40:05 PM)

And me. And my relationship has lasted over twelve years.

So tell us sloguy, how long have you been with your partner?




Awareness -> RE: Women v. men (4/9/2016 11:46:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Until such time that D/s interactions are established and mutually agreed upon, there is that little part about still being on a level-playing field.
The field of romantic courtship. You know, the one where the lady leads and her gentleman suitor picks up on her cues.
Pffft. Don't be ridiculous. Clearly your engagements lack sophistication.

Courtship is a dance. And in all dances, it's fairly important that the man leads. Women want to be led, desire intensely to be led and the man who doesn't lead, doesn't fuck.

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If you are not overly familiar with this, think back to yourself. Do you really believe you (as a man) have been the one who has made the choices, other than in winnowing down your selection of prospective ladies who have caught your interest?
It is the woman who chooses her partner.
Nonsense. That's the doctrine of men who lack options.

I'll let you in on a little secret about dominant men. Dominant men arouse desire in women, regardless of the alleged predilections of the women concerned. I've fucked feminists, ball-busters and supposed 'dominant' women. They all found themselves attracted against their will. Attraction is not a choice. And I certainly have no intention of turning it into one.

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No doubt, you may disagree with my assessment, but that doesn't matter to me. How you take or took the ball and ran with it, depends upon your individual characteristics and personality modality or typology. But, don't fool yourself for one minute that you were the one leading every dance step with the woman who "allowed" you to take the lead. You simply set the stage for her twirls and then pulled her back to you for her to make her next move.
My girl is pretty fucking intelligent, but I pretty much bullied her into talking to me in the first place. Any interaction between a man and women where the man does not lead is a pretty uninteresting one doomed to failure.




needlesandpins -> RE: Women v. men (4/9/2016 12:45:32 PM)

As a general rule the guys that contact me fall in to three categories outside of them being from here; 1, the ones that pay me a compliment on my photo, 2, the ones that have actually read my profile and take the time to tell me they think it's a shame that I'm not looking, but that if ever I change my mind they hope I'd consider them. Mostly though it's number 3, they haven't bothered to read my profile at all, and so have missed where it states that I'm not here looking for them, that I really don't care what they have, I don't want it, and that actually the very fact that they have asked despite me saying it will be a no will be my biggest turn off from the get go. They always give a list of what they want from me. Subs telling me they want me as their Mistress, but telling me what I am to do for them.

I'm not a sub, I'm a switch, but I sure as hell do wish they'd read my profile and respect it instead of assuming that I'm some wish list fulfillment vending machine.

If I were to be looking then I would not be looking for a sub, nor a slave anyway. I'm a switch so I'd be wanting another switch. I don't mind people having a list of boundaries, and hard limits. I have some myself, so you may as well get them out there, but I draw the line at a sub telling me what I'll do for him as his Mistress. Flippin fool.

needles




FieryOpal -> RE: Women v. men (4/28/2016 11:36:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Until such time that D/s interactions are established and mutually agreed upon, there is that little part about still being on a level-playing field.
The field of romantic courtship. You know, the one where the lady leads and her gentleman suitor picks up on her cues.

Courtship is a dance. And in all dances, it's fairly important that the man leads. Women want to be led, desire intensely to be led and the man who doesn't lead, doesn't fuck.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, since it fits into your myopic worldview.

There are many kinds of dances, not just ballroom dancing. Nobody officially leads during the freeform expression of dancing to modern music (rock/pop, electronica), dance-offs, or even with lined-up group dance movements which follow a set choreographic pattern. As for traditional flamenco dancing, ladies dance center stage and male dance partners act more as props. The same could be said for classical ballet.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Pffft. Don't be ridiculous. Clearly your engagements lack sophistication.

This coming from a man of "sophistication" who goes on to admit the following...

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
My girl is pretty fucking intelligent, but I pretty much bullied her into talking to me in the first place. Any interaction between a man and women where the man does not lead is a pretty uninteresting one doomed to failure.

Clearly you are confusing domineering bullying with being Dominant, when it is nothing of the sort. Bullying is a predatory tactic employed by the weak-spirited preying upon another's perceived vulnerabilities. Perhaps you meant that you pestered her into engaging with you. [:D] This type of insolent behavior doesn't work with most persons, and when it is unwelcomed can feel like harassment instead, which no one in their right mind would unilaterally advocate for achieving successful results.

Clearly you further confuse pursuing with leading. If you were leading, then it would be your Huntress who was in pursuit of you. If she heads your pursuit, then how are you doing the leading? Pursuers follow the pursued. They adapt their strategies based on the instinctive behavior of the prize who leads the pursuing pack in the game of the hunt.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
It is the woman who chooses her partner.

Nonsense. That's the doctrine of men who lack options.

Keep convincing yourself of that, also. :p
Dogged persistence is not an exclusively Dominant trait either, and is apart from leading or following.




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