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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/26/2016 3:44:37 PM   
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They are both nutsuckers slobbers. Nutsuckers couldn't coordinate a felchoff. Look that the toiletlicking shit they are running for prez. The stupid is strong with these nutsuckers.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/26/2016 4:08:12 PM   
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funny you should say that....lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjonGtrCyVE

Wow! They called that one right.

It would be funny if it weren't so pitiful.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/26/2016 4:58:56 PM   
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so much partisan ugliness in your post I could spend too many hours saying so---the short answer is its the typical lefty diatribe of that everything we don't agree with is extreme, hateful, harmful, blameworthy, etc.---instead let me focus on the relatively easy low hanging fruit.

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...Then of course, there is the hilarious video on Fox and Friends, of Steve Doocy accidentally revealing that he is reading DIRECTLY from an RNC memo...


didn't see it so I cant speak to it---but it makes me wonder if you actually saw it, or just the jon stewart version of it? you know, where truth be damned in order to either promote the left and/or get a laugh.

I understand he reported that unemployment, the debt and gas prices were high. those are rnc talking points and not facts at the time?

but more importantly...

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...in TIGHT coordination with Fox News...

...again tightly coordinated with Fox News...


so this seems like a step deeper than the liberal cry of "fox news is the media arm of the republican party." it directly states communications to a specific end, if not outright collusion.

surely the evidence of that abounds and would make its own thread topic.

while youre gathering that, here's Hillary Clinton saying more or less otherwise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/hillary-clinton-there-wer_n_134544.html

and surrogate ed Rendell saying similarly:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/31/clinton-surrogate-ed-rend_n_94280.html

here's a little blurb about their presidential election coverage during the time:

quote:

Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were. On FOX, evaluations of all Democratic candidates combined were split almost evenly – 51% positive vs. 49% negative, as were all evaluations of GOP candidates – 49% positive vs. 51% negative, producing a perfectly balanced 50-50 split for all candidates of both parties.


http://www.cmpa.com/releases/07_12_21_Election_Study.pdf

heres another little blurb specific to Obama:

quote:

The Pew (PEJ) report for the 2008 election cycle is out.

Among the findings?

FOXNEWS provided the most balanced cable coverage of the 2008 presidential election among major news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS) and likely the most balanced of all six outlets (NBC, CBS, ABC included), although they oddly didnt release the latter three network's numbers.

BEST (FOXNEWS)
Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%
Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

WORST (MSDNC) [note the little play on words---ever complain about them I wonder?]
Positive Obama Stories 73%
Positive McCain Stories 10%
Negative Obama Stories 14%
Negative McCain Stories 43%

TOTAL COVERAGE (all media added together - 2,412 stories from 48 outlets)
Positive Obama Stories 36%
Positive McCain Stories 14%
Negative Obama Stories 29%
Negative McCain Stories 57%


http://www.yelp.com/topic/new-york-foxnews-is-the-most-balanced-election-coverage-pew-research-centers-project-for-excellence-in-journalism-2008

as far as since then? sorry--I actually watch fox news so the idea of that its all-bashing-Obama-all-the-time, which is what you clearly stating, is dead wrong. there are plenty of people on fox who cant stand him, and you can tell who they are. there are also people on fox who love him, and you can tell who they are. but even on the shows hosted by the people who cannot stand the guy, they will have Obama supporters on and I have also heard over and over again, dyed in the wool Obama haters praise him when due.

i'll look for that new thread about the tight coordination/collusion of fox news with the republican party...




I am not sure of your point here?

That Jon Stewart somehow created FoxNews footage of Doocy reading an RNC memo?
That somehow the RNC talking points didn't end up on FOX News all day during the Bush administration?
That the Fox News 2008 election coverage was "Fair and Balanced" - lol

And you are quoting "Yelp"????

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/26/2016 6:03:53 PM   
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Have we hit the nadir of this presidential campaign yet?

I suspect not

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/26/2016 9:07:48 PM   
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.....and to think, not a single mention anywhere about my candidacy for pres, representing the Bingo party, let alone a twit (or tweet) about my 5 mistresses. They are kinda hot too. Where's Maxim when I need it ? I don't know, maybe I am just too tired.

If I just had a few billion lying around maybe some PACK money..er, I mean PAC money, so I could once elected, tell them to...fuck off.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 1:16:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
quote:

The Pew (PEJ) report for the 2008 election cycle is out.

Among the findings?

FOXNEWS provided the most balanced cable coverage of the 2008 presidential election among major news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS) and likely the most balanced of all six outlets (NBC, CBS, ABC included), although they oddly didnt release the latter three network's numbers.

BEST (FOXNEWS)
Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%
Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

WORST (MSDNC) [note the little play on words---ever complain about them I wonder?]
Positive Obama Stories 73%
Positive McCain Stories 10%
Negative Obama Stories 14%
Negative McCain Stories 43%

TOTAL COVERAGE (all media added together - 2,412 stories from 48 outlets)
Positive Obama Stories 36%
Positive McCain Stories 14%
Negative Obama Stories 29%
Negative McCain Stories 57%


http://www.yelp.com/topic/new-york-foxnews-is-the-most-balanced-election-coverage-pew-research-centers-project-for-excellence-in-journalism-2008



I am not sure of your point here?

That Jon Stewart somehow created FoxNews footage of Doocy reading an RNC memo?
That somehow the RNC talking points didn't end up on FOX News all day during the Bush administration?
That the Fox News 2008 election coverage was "Fair and Balanced" - lol

And you are quoting "Yelp"????

Wow, someone showed you solid evidence that Fox News has the most balance coverage, and you completely ignore that fact! And focus on one thing. I guess RNC also gives Fox all the positive reporting on Obama and negative reporting on McCain. If that's the case. Good on RNC for doing that!

He may be quoting Yelp, but this is where the real info came from. http://www.journalism.org/2008/10/29/the-color-of-news/#fn1

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 3:42:30 AM   
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so much partisan ugliness in your post I could spend too many hours saying so

Yet all you post is partisan ugliness.


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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 3:47:51 AM   
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let alone a twit (or tweet) about my 5 mistresses. They are kinda hot too.

Anyone with only five mistresses clearly is not ambidextrous.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 4:03:07 AM   
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FR.
This isnt about 2008, this is about this election.
This isnt about fox
This is about the cluster fuck the gop, cons and nominees fighting like dicks
Not presidential, in the slightest.
Fuck the media, its bought.
You must be so proud of your selves.



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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 4:15:26 AM   
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FR.
This isnt about 2008, this is about this election.
This isnt about fox
This is about the cluster fuck the gop, cons and nominees fighting like dicks
Not presidential, in the slightest.
Fuck the media, its bought.
You must be so proud of your selves.


This sort of foolishness is part and parcel of the amerikan system.
Thomas jefferson v.john adams might be considered the first with an unbroken stream of silliness from then to now.
We are a rather uneducated and backward lot and our taste in theater is typically limited to mma style cage fights.


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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 5:37:16 AM   
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Wow, someone showed you solid evidence that Fox News has the most balance coverage, and you completely ignore that fact! And focus on one thing. I guess RNC also gives Fox all the positive reporting on Obama and negative reporting on McCain. If that's the case. Good on RNC for doing that!

He may be quoting Yelp, but this is where the real info came from. http://www.journalism.org/2008/10/29/the-color-of-news/#fn1


Uhhhh... No.

You and he are badly misinterpreting the link. It only refers to the coverage of the 2008 election: Obama vs McCain. (And I would agree, Fox's coverage was pretty balanced on the election).


Next!

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 6:22:00 AM   
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The longer this stuff goes on, the more I think Trump is doing this shit to mock the US election system and the GOP. It's almost like he's doing everything he can to make himself as ugly a candidate as possible. The worst part is, the people are backing him.
I simply have no idea how anyone could back Trump. It boggles my mind how someone could think, even for a moment, that he's Presidential material. How could anyone desire Trump being the leader of the US?!?
The only thing I can think is that his popularity is there only because we, as a Nation, are devolving into "Reality TV" mentality. Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, and, pretty much, all the other GOP candidates, aren't "Reality TV" worthy (being worthy is not a good thing); Trump is the only one. I take that back. Huckabee might have been Reality TV worthy.
I can't imagine how GOP Party leadership can allow someone like Trump to run under the GOP mantle. It just blows me away.

I cant disagree with anything you have said....
:)ok maybe one thing, ...cruz isnt the answer either...


Where did I say Cruz was that answer? I see Cruz as the stereotypical slimeball used car salesman wrapped in the stereotypical slimy "fallen" televangelist.


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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 6:25:53 AM   
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You and he are badly misinterpreting the link. It only refers to the coverage of the 2008 election: Obama vs McCain. (And I would agree, Fox's coverage was pretty balanced on the election).
Next!

Exactly, and at that time. Everyone accuse Foxnews of attacking Obama because his black, blah blah blah, being racists fucks! This prove that Fox News was not, but during the election, Fox News was getting so much crap about spinning shit about Obama! Lib medias always get ZERO crap for their one sided reporting.

We clearly cannot see actual statistic until 2017 election is over.

I don't know why you are blatantly ignoring solid evidence that Fox News is not as bias as Libs and mainstream media always try to spin that they are!



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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 6:28:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
The longer this stuff goes on, the more I think Trump is doing this shit to mock the US election system and the GOP. It's almost like he's doing everything he can to make himself as ugly a candidate as possible. The worst part is, the people are backing him.
I simply have no idea how anyone could back Trump. It boggles my mind how someone could think, even for a moment, that he's Presidential material. How could anyone desire Trump being the leader of the US?!?
The only thing I can think is that his popularity is there only because we, as a Nation, are devolving into "Reality TV" mentality. Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, and, pretty much, all the other GOP candidates, aren't "Reality TV" worthy (being worthy is not a good thing); Trump is the only one. I take that back. Huckabee might have been Reality TV worthy.
I can't imagine how GOP Party leadership can allow someone like Trump to run under the GOP mantle. It just blows me away.

I cant disagree with anything you have said....
:)ok maybe one thing, ...cruz isnt the answer either...


Where did I say Cruz was that answer? I see Cruz as the stereotypical slimeball used car salesman wrapped in the stereotypical slimy "fallen" televangelist.


I didnt say you did, you absolutely didnt say it, I added it.


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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 6:34:33 AM   
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You and he are badly misinterpreting the link. It only refers to the coverage of the 2008 election: Obama vs McCain. (And I would agree, Fox's coverage was pretty balanced on the election).
Next!

Exactly, and at that time. Everyone accuse Foxnews of attacking Obama because his black, blah blah blah, being racists fucks! This prove that Fox News was not, but during the election, Fox News was getting so much crap about spinning shit about Obama! Lib medias always get ZERO crap for their one sided reporting.

We clearly cannot see actual statistic until 2017 election is over.

I don't know why you are blatantly ignoring solid evidence that Fox News is not as bias as Libs and mainstream media always try to spin that they are!



http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

Now, if you wanna go back to the election of 2008 and pick up all the mudslinging fox did about obama being a muslim, a kenyan, his birth certificate, his ties to terrorists and being gay and the hate on michelle, and giving palin a job after she clusterfucked herself into oblivion, he was a socialist, he was a commie, he was the son of malcolm x, even trump said he could find proof that obama wasnt a natural born citizen.
yeah that isnt biased at all...
Look back at some of the conversations here back in the middle of 2008...
The sad attempt to re write history wont work in 2016.


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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 6:59:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01
You and he are badly misinterpreting the link. It only refers to the coverage of the 2008 election: Obama vs McCain. (And I would agree, Fox's coverage was pretty balanced on the election).
Next!

Exactly, and at that time. Everyone accuse Foxnews of attacking Obama because his black, blah blah blah, being racists fucks! This prove that Fox News was not, but during the election, Fox News was getting so much crap about spinning shit about Obama! Lib medias always get ZERO crap for their one sided reporting.

We clearly cannot see actual statistic until 2017 election is over.

I don't know why you are blatantly ignoring solid evidence that Fox News is not as bias as Libs and mainstream media always try to spin that they are!





There is NO solid evidence of the kind. The link counts numbers of stories/comments positive and negative during an election cycle. OK... Assuming the data is correct... SO what? It doesn't even address exactly WHAT was said. (Just a simple count).

For example:
"Obama is winning voters in the state of California" is positive
"Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and a radical socialist community organizer" is negative

Not exactly balanced in content, but balanced in numbers.

And even if it WERE balanced in content AND numbers. This is not solid evidence of lack of bias in general coverage!

They were READING and posting verbatim RNC memos on the air!!! There is a hilarious graphic, on Fox news, complete with the RNC typo from the original memo!


Sorry, I am ignoring it, because it is solid evidence of very little.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 7:23:31 AM   
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let alone a twit (or tweet) about my 5 mistresses. They are kinda hot too.

Anyone with only five mistresses clearly is not ambidextrous.

.....are kidding me ? My right arm feels like it's 90 years old. All of that flogger and crop play...ya'know.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 7:27:51 AM   
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and giving palin a job after she clusterfucked herself into oblivion



That is a visual which is at first intriguing, but then quickly morphs into nauseating.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 7:33:18 AM   
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Wow, someone showed you solid evidence that Fox News has the most balance coverage, and you completely ignore that fact! And focus on one thing. I guess RNC also gives Fox all the positive reporting on Obama and negative reporting on McCain. If that's the case. Good on RNC for doing that!

He may be quoting Yelp, but this is where the real info came from. http://www.journalism.org/2008/10/29/the-color-of-news/#fn1


Uhhhh... No.

You and he are badly misinterpreting the link. It only refers to the coverage of the 2008 election: Obama vs McCain. (And I would agree, Fox's coverage was pretty balanced on the election).


Next!

The global elitists, bankers, industrialists etc. wanted no part of McCain/Palin, both were buffoons. When they both cut of their campaigns for the Great Bailout, nobody talked to McCain. All he was, was ridiculous platitudes. So yes, even Fox started to marginalize McCain and pump a little hot air in Obama because [they] knew he'd play ball...and he did quite nicely.

Didn't happen though with Romney, he was one of theirs, another poster-boy for the neocons. All I ever got from Fox was how Romney was going to kick Obama's ass. In the end of course it didn't matter because we just had 8 years of the most borderline idiot the elitists would put up with in W and even then...Kerry and Gore would have played ball too.

There is no escaping it. Presidents are figureheads and tools and do what they need to do...to stay alive.

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RE: cat fighting conservatives. - 3/27/2016 10:03:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
The longer this stuff goes on, the more I think Trump is doing this shit to mock the US election system and the GOP. It's almost like he's doing everything he can to make himself as ugly a candidate as possible. The worst part is, the people are backing him.
I simply have no idea how anyone could back Trump. It boggles my mind how someone could think, even for a moment, that he's Presidential material. How could anyone desire Trump being the leader of the US?!?
The only thing I can think is that his popularity is there only because we, as a Nation, are devolving into "Reality TV" mentality. Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, and, pretty much, all the other GOP candidates, aren't "Reality TV" worthy (being worthy is not a good thing); Trump is the only one. I take that back. Huckabee might have been Reality TV worthy.
I can't imagine how GOP Party leadership can allow someone like Trump to run under the GOP mantle. It just blows me away.

I cant disagree with anything you have said....
:)ok maybe one thing, ...cruz isnt the answer either...

Where did I say Cruz was that answer? I see Cruz as the stereotypical slimeball used car salesman wrapped in the stereotypical slimy "fallen" televangelist.

I didnt say you did, you absolutely didnt say it, I added it.


So, the "Cruz isn't the answer either" phrase is separate from the "maybe one thing" phrase? I saw a connection. My bad.

What's the "one thing" you can disagree with that I wrote?


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