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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/9/2016 9:47:39 PM   
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I guess different people have different opinions on this.
When I say "boy" it means one lacking maturity, to put it as basically as I can, as in "oh you silly little boy" . I use it with a negative tone. To sum up generally, I want a man, not a boy.
Girl is fine. No offence taken at being called a girl at all.

It depends on the power dynamic between the speaker and the listener.


Well yes of course. I was talking about me personally. I am a submissive and only interested in mature, strong alpha males.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/10/2016 7:23:13 AM   
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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/10/2016 7:55:15 AM   
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A person has to have some serious insecurity to let a word like "boy" or "girl" harm their sense of identity.

Not necessarily.

As a grown man about to reach retirement age, I find the term 'boy' to be rather insulting if refering to me.
And seeing as most of those I know would use that term in a deliberately offensive manner, I do consider the term to be offensive when used for someone who is beyond teenage years.
I know a few around here (mostly women) who would wipe the head off your shoulders if you called them 'girl'.
They consider themselves to be fully-fledged adults and no longer 'girls'.

As I posted on the first page, I think it's more an American thing than over here.



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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/10/2016 2:47:15 PM   
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A person has to have some serious insecurity to let a word like "boy" or "girl" harm their sense of identity.


For me, much would depend on the motivation of the speaker. Once, a drunken and/or stoned Jamaican guy started shouting 'butty boy' at me from across the street. I didn't care - and never do care - if someone thinks I'm homosexual (so long as it's not a woman I happen to have my eyes on) - but I *did* care that he meant to insult me. The same principle would apply for me with 'boy'.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/10/2016 3:55:30 PM   
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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/10/2016 5:16:40 PM   
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A person has to have some serious insecurity to let a word like "boy" or "girl" harm their sense of identity.


For me, much would depend on the motivation of the speaker. Once, a drunken and/or stoned Jamaican guy started shouting 'butty boy' at me from across the street. I didn't care - and never do care - if someone thinks I'm homosexual (so long as it's not a woman I happen to have my eyes on) - but I *did* care that he meant to insult me. The same principle would apply for me with 'boy'.

Were they saying "butty-boy" or "buddy-boy"? Buddy boy is an expression someone might use trying to get someone else's attention.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/11/2016 1:22:10 AM   
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Were they saying "butty-boy" or "buddy-boy"? Buddy boy is an expression someone might use trying to get someone else's attention.


He had no intention of being friendly, I was sure of that.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/11/2016 4:10:15 AM   
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Were they saying "butty-boy" or "buddy-boy"? Buddy boy is an expression someone might use trying to get someone else's attention.


He had no intention of being friendly, I was sure of that.

This is where the US and UK go our separate ways.

Here, it is frequently used in a derogatory or insulting manner; implying imbecilic or childish demeanour.
Over the pond, it is often used in camaradery, in a friendly manner; one of the crowd.

Where we use 'guys' and 'lads', they use 'boys'.


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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/11/2016 5:12:19 AM   
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Where we use 'guys' and 'lads', they use 'boys'.

"Guys" is commonly used here, to include both guys & gals. Once you get past elementary and junior high, your (our) teachers tend not to refer to their class as "boys and girls" any longer--except when they're acting up.

My pet seems to love it when I call him my 'rascally little boy.'

My pet cat, that is.

My son who is now grown up, doesn't seem to mind when I still refer to him as "the human boy" when speaking to my cats.

You know your children will always be your "kids," just like your grandchildren are your "grandkids." When used as terms of endearment, being referred to as "my boy", "my girl", "my kid" or "baby/babe" should be taken as the tokens of affection which they are.

ETA: Let's not forget how we still refer to unwed couples as being boyfriend and girlfriend, no matter at what age, rather than as [gentle]man friend or lady friend. I wonder why that is, as it subtly insinuates that these adult relationships are not taken as seriously, even when a couple is living together.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/11/2016 6:05:12 AM   
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This is where the US and UK go our separate ways.

Here, it is frequently used in a derogatory or insulting manner; implying imbecilic or childish demeanour.
Over the pond, it is often used in camaradery, in a friendly manner; one of the crowd.

Where we use 'guys' and 'lads', they use 'boys'.


'Butty-boy' means 'bum-boy', basically. Derogatory for 'homosexual'. It also annoyed me that he'd insulted me with a slang term that must have assumed I'd not understand. That's why I called him a hompfyflompf in retaliation.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/11/2016 6:08:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've just remembered: a trip to North Wales and a little village pub full of old blokes talking Welsh. They were using 'boy' or 'boyo' all the time - where you and I might use 'mate' or 'pal', for instance. I noticed that partly because it was one of the few words I could actually understand.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/17/2016 7:14:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder if the reason you haven't spoken since is that she has got the impression that you're a bit of a tosser?

I am sure you were simply trying to help, bit I can certainly see how she might form an unfavourable impression of you.

She is probably wondering how a grown man could be so lacking in self confidence that something like this could even be an issue.



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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/17/2016 7:16:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are you sure it wasn't "botty boy"... which can sound like "batty boy" in a Jamaican accent?
"Botty boy" is a homophobic slur in Jamaican slang

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/17/2016 7:30:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just refer to her as it or creature of utter wretch I always thrash the fight out of them…Think that would work the other way around. I also think they use the term lads over here as opposed to boys.

I have also seen women’s profiles referencing themselves as girly girl, or women. I think it depends on how far they are fractured out of reality itself.

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RE: Is the term "boys" when referring to men ... - 4/17/2016 7:34:15 AM   
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I've just remembered: a trip to North Wales and a little village pub full of old blokes talking Welsh. They were using 'boy' or 'boyo' all the time - where you and I might use 'mate' or 'pal', for instance. I noticed that partly because it was one of the few words I could actually understand.

Ahhhh.... but 'boyo' is different to 'boy'.
It doesn't have the childish/immature connotation that goes hand-in-hand with the term 'boy'.

According to the Urban Dictionary: another word for a male friend; a bastardization of boy.
So not quite the same.


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