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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:03:35 PM   
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She's getting paid for her work. She's not a victim either.

Many trafficked victims, don't get paid for their work, because first, the syndicate works by telling her, she owes this much money, and it will taken out of her pay cheque, which would take years of her pay cheque for her to pay back what was owed to get her into whatever country she works in. In many cases, they gotta surrender 100% of their money from prostitution, because their accommodation and food are taken care of by the syndicates who managed them. This is on top of them not being able to go to authorities because their family's live are being threatened in their home country if they don't honour their payment by finding the money through prostitution.




Half of that is bullshit. for the most part they were already prostitutes or wannabes. Second of all, know what ? If someone wanted me to do something I don't feel like doing but if I did it and I got all the food, beer, weed and whatever I want, it is called work.

The whole issues here is whether it is consensual. If she wants to do it, and make her money and/or pay for her passage abroad then as far as I am concerned let her do it.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:05:35 PM   
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I think I'm gonna, have to fall on the liberal side of this argument. Is there a more "victimless" crime? I say NO. In fact, no victim, no crime.

So we can put you down for being in favor of removing all laws re:
gambling,homosexuality,suicide,drugs and prostitution?


Gambling -- Legislators on the left and right in states that don't have casino gambling get bullied by states that do so they can keep the revenue coming to their state. In Texas we have horse racing, dog racing, bingo, lottery but we can't have casinos because there's no gambling allowed in Texas? Bitch, please.....

Homosexuality -- i don't have a problem with what two people do in the privacy of their homes. But when activists force businesses to go out of business because they don't want to photograph their wedding or bakeries losing their business because they won't bake them a cake, when someone just down the street will provide those services, there's your victims. Apples and oranges.

Suicide -- The pain and heartache of loved ones left behind makes victims of those who are left behind. But hey, if you are alone, knock yourself out.

Drugs -- Stealing from strangers to support your habit makes this one of the worse victim creators around. Plus the fact that when your ass winds up in the hospital with no money to pay the bills, my tax dollars go towards paying your bills. Drug addicts should be locked up.

Prostitution -- I'm single. I'm horny. I find a prostitute. I give her money. I fuck her. I leave. NO VICTIM NO CRIME.

Careful there chin music your hypocracy is showing.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:09:42 PM   
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Ok lucy, between me and the prostitute, who's the victim?


the poor cunt that will entertain you.



Look, fuck, If I use my hand to turn a wrench and get paid for it, what am I ? The cunt may have been victimised in the past but you didn't do it. Shit, if you think about it a blowjob should cost more than pussy.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:12:56 PM   
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Shit, if you think about it a blowjob should cost more than pussy.

Nope...she cannot stick her tongue in my ear while sucking my cock now can she?



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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:14:05 PM   
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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:15:05 PM   
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Shit, if you think about it a blowjob should cost more than pussy.

Nope...she cannot stick her tongue in my ear while sucking my cock now can she?





If she can she is a definite keeper.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:55:10 PM   
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Half of that is bullshit. for the most part they were already prostitutes or wannabes. Second of all, know what ? If someone wanted me to do something I don't feel like doing but if I did it and I got all the food, beer, weed and whatever I want, it is called work.

I mean you gotta be kidding if you think being a human trafficked victim is all about party and fun right? And from every story I heard, they always think they are coming into the other country to do something else other than prostituting. They get told it's a waitressing job or bartending etc. And then once they are here, they are told those jobs are no longer available, their only choice is prostitution to repay back the money, and they threatened harm to their families back home if they don't pay back.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:57:40 PM   
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So rather than do the hard police work and track down the real law breakers, they go after the easy targets then sit back with their donuts and coffee getting fat and lazy. Geeze, the double standard is sickening.

That's usually what happens right?
Take UK for example, why are they banning drinking in public areas just because of a few bad eggs who can't control themselves not cause a nuisance. Not just UK but Australia I think. I mean, these laws never used to be there. Not sure if they have implemented the same in the US.

Same logic.

Men will not die if they don't go for prostitutes, they can still get sex the traditional way. Many men are still able to charm women into giving them what they want sexually. Women won't die if they can't prostitute themselves. Especially if they love sex, they will still be able to enjoy sex.


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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:00:50 PM   
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Look, fuck, If I use my hand to turn a wrench and get paid for it, what am I ? The cunt may have been victimised in the past but you didn't do it.

T^T

But you would be part of the problem that created the demand for someone like her, so because the demand is so great, people are willing to kidnap women to do this shit. You would be part of the enabling system to make this so profitable for them to go to extremes to keep the supply flowing.

To kill anything is to make it difficult for people to profit from it. If people can't profit from it, the supply ends.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/8/2016 5:21:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		true. he should have got docked a whole bunch if not fired. I think she would put high priced call girl on her resume, it sounds classy.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/8/2016 6:30:33 AM   
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everyone pays for sex, one way or the other, in some form, some want love, some want cash.
SO WHAT.
Shutup dude.


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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/8/2016 7:22:20 AM   
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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/8/2016 8:21:42 AM   
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Look, fuck, If I use my hand to turn a wrench and get paid for it, what am I ? The cunt may have been victimised in the past but you didn't do it.

T^T

But you would be part of the problem that created the demand for someone like her, so because the demand is so great, people are willing to kidnap women to do this shit. You would be part of the enabling system to make this so profitable for them to go to extremes to keep the supply flowing.

To kill anything is to make it difficult for people to profit from it. If people can't profit from it, the supply ends.


Doubling down on consensual crime just makes the problem worse. Let's say we were talking about tequila instead of human trafficking. Customers create the demand for more tequila, so people are willing to smuggle tequila. You would be a criminal because you like tequila and help keep the black market flowing. Anyone familiar with American history knows how that worked out. People that sold black market tequila couldn't profit as much as the legal, regulated distributers, so the black market for tequila ended. Same thing here. Governments don't want to be seen as condoning a vice, so the industry is left to (poorly and violently) policing itself.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/9/2016 12:59:28 AM   
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everyone pays for sex, one way or the other, in some form, some want love, some want cash.
SO WHAT.


Don't they have a 'National Sexcare Plan' in the UK?

What self-respecting commie country wouldn't?

That said, I'm not sure that the average woman has the means to pay, in the manner you suggest, in a capitalista country.


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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/9/2016 1:21:16 AM   
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Gambling -- Legislators on the left and right in states that don't have casino gambling get bullied by states that do so they can keep the revenue coming to their state. In Texas we have horse racing, dog racing, bingo, lottery but we can't have casinos because there's no gambling allowed in Texas? Bitch, please.....

Homosexuality -- i don't have a problem with what two people do in the privacy of their homes. But when activists force businesses to go out of business because they don't want to photograph their wedding or bakeries losing their business because they won't bake them a cake, when someone just down the street will provide those services, there's your victims. Apples and oranges.

Suicide -- The pain and heartache of loved ones left behind makes victims of those who are left behind. But hey, if you are alone, knock yourself out.

Drugs -- Stealing from strangers to support your habit makes this one of the worse victim creators around. Plus the fact that when your ass winds up in the hospital with no money to pay the bills, my tax dollars go towards paying your bills. Drug addicts should be locked up.

Prostitution -- I'm single. I'm horny. I find a prostitute. I give her money. I fuck her. I leave. NO VICTIM NO CRIME.

People don't steal to get their nicotine (drug) fix. Most profitable product in the marketplace, 20 fixes a pack on $5 or $6 bucks, because it's legal. Society also pays for their care.

Victims from drugs derive from the black market that is forced upon it, by law. Like Milton Friedman and William Buckley said, we are talking about a 'crime' that nether seller or buyer wishes for it to be one...or report it. Same as with prostitution.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/9/2016 2:51:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		First of all, there were plenty of indentured servants came here. Technically slaves but released after a certain time.

But like real slavery, when one considers those who bought them, they must also consider who sold them. If girls are sold into prostitution in the US, where did they come from ? In fact any country. The Negroes sold to the plantation owners in the US, they were sold by other Negroes. You think we went and rounded them up ourselves ? Fuck no, we had them do it and paid them with shiny things.

There are many accounts in the Bible of Fathers selling their daughters.

I really don't agree about this Women treated as property shit, but what can I do ? I will not buy sex, never have. Well maybe dinner and whatever. But pimps do not take that for payment. And the pimps are the problem. Actually, I think prostitution should be totally legal, but not pimps.

Generally, how it was here for the most part, is that the pimps have like a harem, and they get most of the money. However they get a place to live and work, good food and drugs of their choice, and he bails them out of jail and pays the lawyer when they get busted. He wants them out free making money. And all this talk about the pimp abusing them, not the good ones. Nobody wants to pay $100 to fuck a chick who is all bruised up and hurting.

But the traffickers, that really is a different story. Get you to go to a different country and then they are your only connection, you know nobody else. you might even be illegal and therefore not able to go to the police. No, that is fucked up. But actually in the US a girl could stick it up their ass really good.

So could the ones who actually work in Chinese restaurants. Seriously, they are off the books, they are cheating on their taxes and got these girls working for like five bucks an hour, for like five years after they get here. Quite lucrative if you know what you're doing. You buy stock retail, OK it costs more but it is off the books. Like bars do. Bars and restaurants in this country evade like 50 % of their taxes with tactics like this.

I probably should not have revealed that. But anyone close to those types of businesses knows it, the cops know it. The IRS knows it but also knows they cannot prove it. It is like a half overgroud and half underground economy. The government would be like Greece if they didn't have a credit card with no limit.

But this open border shit is part of the problem. I would close them totally. You can come here and visit but that is it. No more. We already have too many people, you cannot have a job or buy property or any of that shit. come and drink our Women and chase our beer and go to Disneyland and then GTFO. We got no use for ANYONE anymore. Shit, we got no jobs already, I am working for half what I am worth. There is nothing here for anyone. Even the Mexicans are going home, I shit you not.

And I doubt I'll ever leave. I was born here so if I am going to do anything it should be here. Le3ave my country ? (which it ain't) Fuck no. It is what I know. I know cops, judges, whatever. I know my way around. In another country I might have to jump through all kinds of hoops just to work. Fuck all that.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/9/2016 1:04:02 PM   
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everyone pays for sex, one way or the other, in some form, some want love, some want cash.
SO WHAT.
No. I can assure you that plenty of men exist who do neither. They're wildly attractive, women flock to them and those men remain uncommitted with multiple sexual partners for years.


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