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Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:13:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		So this bill just signed.. Religious freedom bill. Your thoughts?

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:21:21 AM   
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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:29:10 AM   
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So this bill just signed.. Religious freedom bill. Your thoughts?

I haven't seen this one but the ones I have seen do not impose any Christian dogma on non Christians, they just don't allow anyone to force Christians to violate their principles.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:33:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		well, then the law will be found unconstitutional, equal protections and all that, because it doesnt include sharia law for muslims outright, or the ability for Norsemen to carve the blood eagle on the backs of these scraelings.



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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:37:22 AM   
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So this bill just signed.. Religious freedom bill. Your thoughts?


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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 8:39:20 AM   
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I haven't seen this one but the ones I have seen do not impose any Christian dogma on non Christians, they just don't allow anyone to force Christians to violate their principles.

I am pretty sure you have been told this before but
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 9:34:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I always find it amusing when conservatives push bills like this into law. They are often the same types whom bitch about wasteful spending of the tax payers dollar. Yet, when they do it, its all 'justified'. This law will be challenged day one of its existence. It'll be found unconstitutional in the courts. Weeks later, these same idiot people will past another law. For them, they want the rest of the world to live in the 1950's. Unfortunately for them, the rest of the world has past them by....

Are we expecting anything really useful out of a state that is ranked #51 out of 51 states/commonwealths/districts for education? An have hovered within six places of that #51 for over two decades?

Hey, the military has to have its source of cheap, expendable soldiers from somewhere....


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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 10:16:54 AM   
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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 11:13:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		My thoughts on backwoods Mississippi? The hunting was good, the countryside beautiful and I'd like to go back to dig up some natural clay for a project I've had in mind.

As for the Bill, I've read of similar bills elsewhere.

If Kay and I ever decided to get married, we wouldn't want to put someone in the position of compromising their religious beliefs so we'd go to a business not conflicted in such a manner. Nor would we expect a pastor with strong convictions against same sex marriages to marry us. We would demand, however, that any governmental office that provides services to the public not discriminate against us. Private business, is a trickier matter. I see both sides of the argument and I don't know which is right.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 11:33:21 AM   
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My thoughts on backwoods Mississippi? The hunting was good, the countryside beautiful and I'd like to go back to dig up some natural clay for a project I've had in mind.

As for the Bill, I've read of similar bills elsewhere.

If Kay and I ever decided to get married, we wouldn't want to put someone in the position of compromising their religious beliefs so we'd go to a business not conflicted in such a manner. Nor would we expect a pastor with strong convictions against same sex marriages to marry us. We would demand, however, that any governmental office that provides services to the public not discriminate against us. Private business, is a trickier matter. I see both sides of the argument and I don't know which is right.

And if this bill is like the one in Ga you would, because of the person you are, not be affected in any way. It mearly keeps people from doing the things that you wouldn't do anyway.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 12:26:30 PM   
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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 12:54:01 PM   
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But I know what I think about the bill, and the other states that are attempting these types of bills.


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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 1:25:48 PM   
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My thoughts on backwoods Mississippi? The hunting was good, the countryside beautiful and I'd like to go back to dig up some natural clay for a project I've had in mind.

As for the Bill, I've read of similar bills elsewhere.

If Kay and I ever decided to get married, we wouldn't want to put someone in the position of compromising their religious beliefs so we'd go to a business not conflicted in such a manner. Nor would we expect a pastor with strong convictions against same sex marriages to marry us. We would demand, however, that any governmental office that provides services to the public not discriminate against us. Private business, is a trickier matter. I see both sides of the argument and I don't know which is right.


That is fine... but what if you lived in backwoods Missouri with only one grocery store... pharmacy …and car repair…and you were gay. The proposed law in Missouri does not limit refusal of services to just bakers. Is it Christian to kill you because you are denied medical care or medicine? Make you go hungry because you cannot buy food… isolate you because you cannot get your vehicle repaired… Just think of any necessary service you may need and the providers have a right to deny you because… you are different than they. And believe me the holier than thou assholes will drive you from their cities if given the chance.


Because you are evil and will turn their children to sucking cock or eating pussy. We all know it is a choice and contagious... even though that makes no sense... but God says so.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 1:48:19 PM   
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My thoughts on backwoods Mississippi? The hunting was good, the countryside beautiful and I'd like to go back to dig up some natural clay for a project I've had in mind.

As for the Bill, I've read of similar bills elsewhere.

If Kay and I ever decided to get married, we wouldn't want to put someone in the position of compromising their religious beliefs so we'd go to a business not conflicted in such a manner. Nor would we expect a pastor with strong convictions against same sex marriages to marry us. We would demand, however, that any governmental office that provides services to the public not discriminate against us. Private business, is a trickier matter. I see both sides of the argument and I don't know which is right.


That is fine... but what if you lived in backwoods Missouri with only one grocery store... pharmacy …and car repair…and you were gay. The proposed law in Missouri does not limit refusal of services to just bakers. Is it Christian to kill you because you are denied medical care or medicine? Make you go hungry because you cannot buy food… isolate you because you cannot get your vehicle repaired… Just think of any necessary service you may need and the providers have a right to deny you because… you are different than they. And believe me the holier than thou assholes will drive you from their cities if given the chance.


Because you are evil and will turn their children to sucking cock or eating pussy. We all know it is a choice and contagious... even though that makes no sense... but God says so.

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You bring up some very valid points. I don't have any answers. Greater minds than mine debate these issues. I respect an individual's right to be true to their religious values, just as I expect my right to my pursuit of happiness to be respected. I accept that some religious beliefs aren't compatible with my choices. I prefer to err on the side that causes no harm and exhibits the greatest kindness.
I just can't say I know what side that is, except to say I was raised in the deep south by strict Southern Baptist family and chose to move 1200+ miles away to chase my bliss.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 1:48:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Christian Bible may use some confusing wording attributed to God condemning Homosexuals… but where does it say not to bake them a cake… or provide food and shelter… or medicine and charity? Hell where does it say they cannot be married by a justice of the peace?

God made us all… do you really think he would condemn his own creation? Or do you still believe gay is a choice?

Anyone who supports this type of legislation...here on these boards is an ass.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 1:57:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tell me how is selling insulin to a diabetic against a religion?... For that matter how is selling bread to a hungry man against religion? Will your gayness come off on the money you give them?

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 2:08:44 PM   
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Tell me how is selling insulin to a diabetic against a religion?... For that matter how is selling bread to a hungry man against religion? Will your gayness come off on the money you give them?

I'm not convinced the Bill covers these instances. I will have to see if I can find the bill that was passed and read up on it.
My personal experience with religions is they may feel strongly opposed to gay marriage - their compassionate hearts would not deny medicine or food and in fact most of them are generous in their sharing food and giving offerings for food banks.

I've also witnessed racism and discrimination, which I find repulsive.

Again, I don't know. I'm not sure that there isn't fear and misrepresentation of the bill's purpose and power.

I'll look into it, for my own peace of mind. Until I'm better informed I can't really have an opinion on it.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 2:11:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		You see its not about you not wanting someone to go against their religious values... By all means shop where people accept you... but if you allow a baker to not bake a cake how can you deny a restaurant owner the right to deny you food... just as they did blacks... How can you deny a doctor the right not to treat your children when they are sick?

These types of laws are wrong and not Christian values and are only designed to discriminate.

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 2:20:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not trying to back you into a corner on this subject but i would like to convince you that accepting this type of law would be the same as blacks accepting separate bathrooms and water fountains... yes it would work... but would it be right?

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RE: Thoughts about backwoods Mississippi? - 4/8/2016 2:23:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Faith however brothers and sisters is a very beautiful gift. The real beauty in my faith, would and should allow me to refuse service or products to anyone, for any reason, if it's according to my...faith in God.

I should be able to refuse doing business with blacks, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and of course...even them damn Irish. We have a freedom of religion in this country people and if the freedom doesn't legally afford me the right to decide who I will do business with in accordance with my devout and pious beliefs, then we've lost it...altogether, be it backwoods Mississippi, or Washington god damn DC. So there !!

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