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tj444 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:01:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Don't forget the internet which has totally changed job hunting. When I was 21 we had the local papers and signs out in front of the companies. And we had to walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to the interviews. naw, when i was that age it was super easy to find a job, you could fall off a turnip truck and have one..

tj444 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:04:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first. You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food..

Greta75 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:10:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Lol, I'm in the science field, and compared to many other majors there technically are plenty of jobs. But news flash, every millennial is running into this problem. My ex's brother was an engineer and it took him 2-3 years to find his first engineering gig, and those are jobs that are typically the most abundant. While I agree that some majors have more job opportunities than others, I went into my program expecting there to be more jobs at the end than others, and from what I've heard it's true, there are more jobs in environmental science than other majors. But at the same time, our country hasn't exactly been supporting much in the way of green progress, and as I stated earlier many companies prefer older and more experienced people for the positions. I'll say what I said to the others, spend a day a millennial and you'll be singing a different tune, because you know shit about what we have to go through. My baby bro is in early twenties, graduated much later than you as he had learning disabilities and took a longer route to finally graduate from University. His major is environmental science too. Interestingly..., it's known to be a job where it's very difficult to find a job. He knows friends who graduated 3 years ago and are still jobless, and end up working in things not in the field they study. But with my brother, although not so bright, clearly shown by the long route he took with his education, but he had charisma, and got hired through impressing through interviews before he even graduated. In the end, he found a job with a higher than normal starting salary among his peers. End of the day, getting a job involves alot of factors. How the resume stands out, and then how the interview goes. I always say, once in the real working world, it's more than how well you did in school, but how well you can manipulate people into thinking they need you and you're the one! The employers anyway. It's still about selling yourself and how well you sell yourself and what you can do for them that your competitors cannot. They need to feel good about you.

Nnanji -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:32:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first. You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food.. I do see in places, such as here, that whiners who like to talk about how tough things are for them tend to be vindictive. We'll see. However, I much prefer dog food to cat food.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:54:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in principal, im in general agreement. I know on the whole though, students, at least many students of today, would complain vociferously about something like that and unfortunately, the administration would back them up. once in a lab I gave the students all the apparatus they needed in order to find the answer to a particular question---and wanted them to figure it out based on the tools at hand. eventually they did, but in the meantime there was a lot of angst directed at me with "why don't you teach us??" being first and foremost. I bet you would have liked it---figuring out center of gravity on a human body with two doctor office scales and a long plank. Great job. Piece of cake to solve tho. Lie the plank so either end rests on the scales. Calibrate to zero. Lie the person on the plank. The ratio of weights projected along the plank is the center of gravity of the person. Close, but no cigar. The center of gravity or physical center of any 3 dimensional object (including humans) is a point in 3 dimensions which would commonly be expressed by its x, y and z coordinates. The above experiment only determines the z coordinate (assuming that z is the vertical axis of the human while standing) of the location of the center of gravity. This gives the location of the plane where the desired answer (a point) is located. Due to the fact that there are an infinite number of points in a plane, the answer is nowhere close to the center of gravity. Had you been telling them to locate a balance point, you would have been correct. Unfortunately, you failed 10th grade geometry while attempting to teach physics. instead of being a pompous and pedantic ass, you could rather have given some grace and understand that we're colloquially referring to the height of the center of gravity, knowing that the actual point would exist internally. that takes care of your x, y and z axis points. and no, there is only one point given an entire human body. "center of gravity: "imaginary point through which the resultant force of gravity acts on an object; in the point at which the entire weight of the body may be assumed to be concentrated; the point about which the torques created by the weights of each of the body parts balance; the point of balance of the body." from biomechanics of sport and exercise by peter McGinnis. "center of gravity: "a body's center of gravity, or center of mass, is the point around which the body's weight is equally balanced..." from basic biomechanics by susan hall. and yeah, I know, as did my students, and I trust phydeaux knows, that the point changes according to posture. Maybe I was referring to the person who posted this (or the teacher who wrote what he quoted and claimed as his own) was complaining about young folk who have no critical thinking skills. The irony is that the author likewise has no critical thinking skills when they read this out of the teacher's manual or they would have realized the fallacy. If you had known, OR your students, OR Phydeaux, you would have used the proper terms. God gave you a brain. You and everyone else needs to USE it and not swallow what the paid for media feeds you like pablum or we will all be slaves to the oligarchs.

tj444 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 2:58:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first. You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food.. I do see in places, such as here, that whiners who like to talk about how tough things are for them tend to be vindictive. We'll see. However, I much prefer dog food to cat food. Whether they are vindictive or not, I dont think they can afford to support seniors like seniors are supported now and in the past, the systems are based on more people working than there will be when you are retired.. the govt is starting to see this, didnt they just change the age you can collect benefits? i think to 68 now? its only gonna get worse cuz the govt has promised more than they can deliver on the backs of younger people who are gonna be earning less with a high & rising cost of living..

Nnanji -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 3:05:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Geeze? I've seen more who wanted to stay at home because they wanted jobs that filfilled them, or wanted an employer who found them to be the perfect creatures their parents told the they were and gave them part of the company, or work than had nap rooms and flex time. I've also seen a small sample of them that were raised the way I was who are kicking ass against the compition. They all want to be little Bernie socialists. I say fine. I'm retiring and completely plan on being a burden on them. They can pay for me and I'll laugh. They can have what they want as long as mine comes off the top first. You think so, huh? I think millennials are gonna have a long memory and you will get peanuts, they will cut you off at your knees.. then you can be one of the whiney seniors complaining about having to eat cat food.. I do see in places, such as here, that whiners who like to talk about how tough things are for them tend to be vindictive. We'll see. However, I much prefer dog food to cat food. Whether they are vindictive or not, I dont think they can afford to support seniors like seniors are supported now and in the past, the systems are based on more people working than there will be when you are retired.. the govt is starting to see this, didnt they just change the age you can collect benefits? i think to 68 now? its only gonna get worse cuz the govt has promised more than they can deliver on the backs of younger people who are gonna be earning less with a high & rising cost of living.. Actually, I agree with most of what you're saying. I'm not counting on millennials to support me. Although I am looking forward to the day each of the Bernie socialist millennials realizes what the leftist tax and spend politicians left them to clean up. Instant conservatives. It's what the left always forgets, eventually the smart young socialists become conservative.

thompsonx -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 3:09:55 PM)
ORIGINAL: thishereboi And we had to walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to the interviews. You got the easy hill. Yours truley Sisyphus

Phydeaux -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 3:13:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in principal, im in general agreement. I know on the whole though, students, at least many students of today, would complain vociferously about something like that and unfortunately, the administration would back them up. once in a lab I gave the students all the apparatus they needed in order to find the answer to a particular question---and wanted them to figure it out based on the tools at hand. eventually they did, but in the meantime there was a lot of angst directed at me with "why don't you teach us??" being first and foremost. I bet you would have liked it---figuring out center of gravity on a human body with two doctor office scales and a long plank. Great job. Piece of cake to solve tho. Lie the plank so either end rests on the scales. Calibrate to zero. Lie the person on the plank. The ratio of weights projected along the plank is the center of gravity of the person. Close, but no cigar. The center of gravity or physical center of any 3 dimensional object (including humans) is a point in 3 dimensions which would commonly be expressed by its x, y and z coordinates. The above experiment only determines the z coordinate (assuming that z is the vertical axis of the human while standing) of the location of the center of gravity. This gives the location of the plane where the desired answer (a point) is located. Due to the fact that there are an infinite number of points in a plane, the answer is nowhere close to the center of gravity. Had you been telling them to locate a balance point, you would have been correct. Unfortunately, you failed 10th grade geometry while attempting to teach physics. instead of being a pompous and pedantic ass, you could rather have given some grace and understand that we're colloquially referring to the height of the center of gravity, knowing that the actual point would exist internally. that takes care of your x, y and z axis points. and no, there is only one point given an entire human body. "center of gravity: "imaginary point through which the resultant force of gravity acts on an object; in the point at which the entire weight of the body may be assumed to be concentrated; the point about which the torques created by the weights of each of the body parts balance; the point of balance of the body." from biomechanics of sport and exercise by peter McGinnis. "center of gravity: "a body's center of gravity, or center of mass, is the point around which the body's weight is equally balanced..." from basic biomechanics by susan hall. and yeah, I know, as did my students, and I trust phydeaux knows, that the point changes according to posture. Maybe I was referring to the person who posted this (or the teacher who wrote what he quoted and claimed as his own) was complaining about young folk who have no critical thinking skills. The irony is that the author likewise has no critical thinking skills when they read this out of the teacher's manual or they would have realized the fallacy. If you had known, OR your students, OR Phydeaux, you would have used the proper terms. Or maybe you would read the links and see that the proper term is actually center of gravity; that the damn near universal convention is to measure only in terms of height. Probably not tho.

Phydeaux -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 3:15:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: thishereboi And we had to walk 2 miles uphill in the snow to get to the interviews. You got the easy hill. Yours truley Sisyphus That was actually pretty funny Thompson. Bravo. My favorite joke: Q: Who does polyphemious hate worse than odysseus. A: Nobody.

tj444 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 5:14:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Actually, I agree with most of what you're saying. I'm not counting on millennials to support me. Although I am looking forward to the day each of the Bernie socialist millennials realizes what the leftist tax and spend politicians left them to clean up. Instant conservatives. It's what the left always forgets, eventually the smart young socialists become conservative. I think millennials are smart enough to know that all politicians (from both sides) have sold them out.. and most people that vote dont usually base their decision on simply one issue.. The issue on supporting seniors will come down to dollars & cents for both parties anyway, if the money isnt there then it isnt there..

DesideriScuri -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 6:17:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 Ah the simple mindedness of being a conservative. Things are always so black and white for you morons. How I wish the world was truly so simple as you view it. I'm not wasting my time going through your bullshit response, but I will say this; my generation is and continues to work their assess off to get places in life, and simply pointing out that you old farts are applying ancient standards on a generation where they don't apply is in itself passing blame onto others. You don't want to take responsibility for the fact that your generation and earlier have had a negative affect on later generations. You think that if you can do it, so can anyone else at any other time period, not taking into consideration the fact that money isn't worth as much as it was in the past and prices have risen disproportionately for pretty much everything. Maybe back in the 60s or 70s when it was possible to do so, sure. But that's not the way things are anymore. That's the problem with the older generation, they're stuck in the past and they think if they shit out a turd it has to be golden and the younger generation should be content with it. I take responsibility for my own life, and I'm doing my absolute best to enter the industry that I've been working towards. But it's not bitching and whining to look at cause and effect relationships, and how past generations simply haven't made it easy for us millennials as a whole. I'm taking responsibility for my life and I'm ready to take responsibility for the effect my generation has on the next, are you lot ready to take responsibility for what you've done to inhibit my generation or is just gonna be more denial talking down to people who aren't doing the same things you people did in your youth? What, exactly, have I done to inhibit your generation? Go talk to someone who has, literally, broken his back working. See what shit the went through, and then tell me you're doing your best. You're just a whiny, sniveling, little pissant. And, please note, I'm not saying anything about "your generation." I'm saying it about you. Your life is sooo tough? Not enough of a headstart? Blame your parents. Don't fucking blame me, my generation, or anyone else's generation. My grandfather worked in a steel mill. He was drafted into WWII. He was one that stormed the beaches on Normandy. He was a POW from the Battle of the Bulge. Know what he did when he came back? He worked in that same steel mill. But, he worked his ass off so my Dad, Aunt and Uncle could have it better than he did. Know what my grandmother did? She raised kids while her husband was shipped off to war. Growing up, she had to leave school after 6th grade so she could work to help the family out. My Dad went to school, worked, went back to school and worked, worked worked. While he was getting his post-graduate degree, he was working in a steel mill. He worked his butt off, at times taking a second job for extra money while my Mom did her best to raise us 4 kids. Why did they do that? So we'd have a better life than they did. Yeah. Your life is so fucking harsh. Grow the fuck up and buy a fucking clue. You're looking for someone to give you a job. I don't doubt you're willing to work at a job in your field. I don't even doubt you want to work hard in your chosen field. However, it's not up to anyone to provide a job for you. It's up to you to show that you're the best choice for the position you want. They want experience? Go fucking get some. FFS, volunteer, if you have to. You aren't being hired because the employers feel other candidates are better choices for the position. Are they right? I have no fucking clue, and I don't give a fuck, either. It's on you to demonstrate that you're the best choice. And, in case you're wondering, that last paragraph is something I'd have no problem saying to my kids, my friends that complain about jobs, etc. I work with people older than me, people my age, and people younger than me. I am constantly amazed at some people pissing and moaning about their job, when their job isn't really difficult, and the pay starts out at 150% of minimum wage, yet, they do nothing (except piss and moan) about how bad their job is (notice how I didn't specify any particular age group? That's because it's not just one group). Then, there are some real gems that I'm going to hate watch leave for greener pastures. There are a few who are working their butts off while going to school to get ahead. Many of those people are in my generation or younger. They tend to come in, do their jobs while keeping their heads on straight. They don't bitch and moan all the time, either. They'll make plenty of money in their chosen fields. It's going to be a bummer watching them leave. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kate-norquay/what-i-learned-four-years-working-at-mcdonalds_b_8682928.html

Marini -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 7:34:08 PM)
You had newspapers? And shoes? Wow!!!!

Phydeaux -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 7:44:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini You had newspapers? And shoes? Wow!!!! Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left.

Marini -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 7:56:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Marini You had newspapers? And shoes? Wow!!!! Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left. Me? Someone is a mean mood.

Phydeaux -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 8:24:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Marini You had newspapers? And shoes? Wow!!!! Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left. Me? Someone is a mean mood. Oh yeah? And taking a cheap shot at someone that was unemployed for 3 years, and went back to school to make a living - thats cool and laudable, right? I'll give mnotter credit - when he takes a cheap shot at someone he at least doesn't try to pass it off as humor.

Marini -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 8:47:05 PM)
My comment was a joke, in the theme of those complaining about how hard it was years ago. If you read up, I told the young man I felt sorry for his generation. Clearly a joke. You have issues, carry on.

Phydeaux -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 9:46:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini My comment was a joke, in the theme of those complaining about how hard it was years ago. If you read up, I told the young man I felt sorry for his generation. Clearly a joke. You have issues, carry on. Yeah?well at least that attack is straightforward. Issues, eh. I'm not the one passing off cheap attacks as jokes. Do you make fun of minorities too? Polish jokes. Jewish jokes. Those funny too? Or is it only those on the right you make fun of? Why don't you explain the humor what so funny in making fun of someone.

Zonie63 -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 9:55:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Marini My comment was a joke, in the theme of those complaining about how hard it was years ago. If you read up, I told the young man I felt sorry for his generation. Clearly a joke. You have issues, carry on. Yeah?well at least that attack is straightforward. Issues, eh. I'm not the one passing off cheap attacks as jokes. Do you make fun of minorities too? Polish jokes. Jewish jokes. Those funny too? Or is it only those on the right you make fun of? Why don't you explain the humor what so funny in making fun of someone. Damn, man, can't you lighten up for a minute? I'm sure it was just a joke, not a personal attack at all.

mnottertail -> RE: Generation Gap (4/18/2016 10:44:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Marini You had newspapers? And shoes? Wow!!!! Vicious, vindictive, pointless. Pretty much sums up so much of the left. cretinous. impugning hysterical pants shitting hallucinatory factless Pretty much sums up the rightwing nutsuckers.

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