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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I'm interested in extreme physical play. Where physical force is used on the submissive. Does anyone know of any classes? I have weak wrists and if I smacked someone they would hurt. I want to take a class because I don't want to hurt myself. For example, if I wrestled her to the ground I'm sure I would sprain my back. Would you be so kind as to email me? I suspect all I'll get from this post are a lot of negative comments.

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ORIGINAL: mousekabob

I would suggest if you're weak, maybe try going to the gym for strengthening classes with a personal trainer.

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ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit

You want to take akido classes. Co-ed wrestling or similar martial arts would also work, but Akido is the only one I know of that does it co-ed.

In any major city in the US, you should be able to find an akido class, and most should be co-ed.

They should be able to work with weak wrists or other physical limitations, the martial art was designed by older people. Just be sure to mention it to your instructor.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OP, how can you be in LA and not be able to connect with your local community?

For what it's worth, you're not looking for Aikido. You are looking for take down classes. Aikido is not for the offensive stance. It's about redirecting the other person. It's about stopping what is happening; not perpetrating it.

Take downs are something else and usually regarded as a form of primal play. With take downs, there is always an inherent risk, so it's a consideration.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OP, how can you be in LA and not be able to connect with your local community?

For what it's worth, you're not looking for Aikido. You are looking for take down classes. Aikido is not for the offensive stance. It's about redirecting the other person. It's about stopping what is happening; not perpetrating it.

Take downs are something else and usually regarded as a form of primal play. With take downs, there is always an inherent risk, so it's a consideration.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I agree with this, altho the other ladies n peon made some good points:)

I would agree.

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Altho I dont take part in primal (because of personal physical limitations) I have seen a nice number of "takedowns" and it seems that the one thing that happens is that the "taker" often gets "involved" in close physical quarters and can get just as injured.

As far as I'm concerned, this is definitely a 'risk aware consensual kink' area. I don't consider this one of my strengths because of the potential injuries. I do have weak wrists and, in my younger years, I took a lot of falls that meant cracks or breaks. I have weak tissue in my left ankle, and anybody who has ever cracked a rib KNOWS it never completely heals.

I am also shorter, weaker, and generally not in as good of shape as my opponents.

Due to this, I fight dirty.

(Ummmm... Some of you folks should probably stop reading now. Trigger warnings, ahead.)

Any person, regardless of size of stature, can take another person down. Consider it the 'step above' self-defense class. Self defense is all about stunning your opponent long enough to get away or get help. Take downs are about being on the OFFENSIVE, so those few seconds that your target is stunned, etc, are all about your advantages.

Self defense teaches you about the three target areas. (Eyes, throat, and groin.) The cool thing is, there are a number of other sweet spots on a human that will disorient them long enough to get them on the ground. A good tendon shot will mess up almost anybody's world long enough for you to accomplish what you want to do. That's the side of the leg, back of the knee, and the Achilles tendon. (I'm short, so I go for targets I know I can hit.) Those three areas will put stars in their eyes and they will generally hit the ground.

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Its not just the "takee" Now this seems to be part of the "fun" and I can see that, but someone who just wants to be physical with another and not hurt themselves is to me....not gonna work out to well unless you do "takedown" as a class or two.

I consider 'wrestling' and take downs two different things. Anybody who participates in 'sudden' taken downs (no advanced warning) ALWAYS has to consider the environment. Corner of the bed, the nightstand, etc. I can trip over a rock. You think I don't have to pay attention to the furniture in the room.

If you're going to participate in take downs, there's going to be risk. Top, bottom, doesn't matter. You could take a bad landing on your wrist just as much as your target could.

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I thought the OP had an in with the community "leaders" or am I thinking of someone else....

Definitely thinking of somebody else.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


I still find it troubling that OP is more concerned about hurting himself than he is about his partner's safety.

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As far as I'm concerned, this is definitely a 'risk aware consensual kink' area. I don't consider this one of my strengths because of the potential injuries. I do have weak wrists and, in my younger years, I took a lot of falls that meant cracks or breaks. I have weak tissue in my left ankle, and anybody who has ever cracked a rib KNOWS it never completely heals.

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ORIGINAL: teentie

if you did not masturbate so much your wrists would be stronger.