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Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 8:03:37 AM   
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I have been in a relationship with my soul mate for just over 2 years. We have a wonderful time together but the bedroom is not quite right.

She has no experience of being dominant in the bedroom, (she is a strong and decisive woman in general) and we have tried to "play" in the bedroom...I am very submissive, but it has not worked!

So the questions!
Has anyone been in this situation... can you suggest how to build a D/s relationship from this low base in the bedroom?

and a more general question, Do we play opposites in the bedroom? I am a strong confident man in the real world, but just want to let go of control sexually, my partner is likewise....therefore is it possible that this is the reason we cant make it work in the bedroom!

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 9:49:02 AM   
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after 2 years you should know each others turn-ons.
just ask !!!!!!!!!!
or of course go elsewhere.xx

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 10:26:05 AM   
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is it possible

Yes

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 10:42:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subcurio

I have been in a relationship with my soul mate for just over 2 years. We have a wonderful time together but the bedroom is not quite right.

She has no experience of being dominant in the bedroom, (she is a strong and decisive woman in general) and we have tried to "play" in the bedroom...I am very submissive, but it has not worked!

So the questions!
Has anyone been in this situation... can you suggest how to build a D/s relationship from this low base in the bedroom?

and a more general question, Do we play opposites in the bedroom? I am a strong confident man in the real world, but just want to let go of control sexually, my partner is likewise....therefore is it possible that this is the reason we cant make it work in the bedroom!




If you come on as too submissive straight off the bat, it might be a turn off for her, slow steps and don't throw the baby out with the bath water, give it time and make sure she feels comfy. Yes, do try switching for a while, again, for a woman who's not sure about the whole BDSM thing, they often worry that a submissive guy might be weak and it might not stay in the bedroom.

I agree with after 2 years you should know each other's turn ons, why don't you go away with her for a "dirty weekend" you'd be surprised how being out of your usual environment and being a bit relaxed (have a glass of wine but not a bottle each) can make things easier.


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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 10:52:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subcurio



She has no experience of being dominant in the bedroom, (she is a strong and decisive woman in general)
Which doesn't mean she's dominant. Lots of submissives have strong, decisive personalities.

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and we have tried to "play" in the bedroom...I am very submissive, but it has not worked!
Have you asked how she feels about what you want from the bedroom? Is it something she wants and enjoys, but just hasn't gotten the hang of yet? Or is she doing it because it's something you want?


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Has anyone been in this situation
Of course others have been in that situation.

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can you suggest how to build a D/s relationship from this low base in the bedroom?
Lots and lots and lots of communication. You may also want to buy the book "When someone you love is kinky"

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and a more general question, Do we play opposites in the bedroom? I am a strong confident man in the real world, but just want to let go of control sexually, my partner is likewise....therefore is it possible that this is the reason we cant make it work in the bedroom!
So, your theory is that Dominant women are weak out in the real world?

And in response to your thread title: Being dominant is a personality trait with which you are born. Being A Dominant is something you learn.


< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 4/20/2016 10:53:36 AM >


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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 1:31:41 PM   
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She should dump thee, in a wheelie bin of wretch and intriguing toil nail clippings. As I feel your non existent partner could do a lot better than a figment of ones imagination.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 1:55:44 PM   
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This is going to be the minority opinion and certainly not the popular one.
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ORIGINAL: subcurio
I have been in a relationship with my soul mate for just over 2 years. We have a wonderful time together but the bedroom is not quite right.

She has no experience of being dominant in the bedroom, (she is a strong and decisive woman in general) and we have tried to "play" in the bedroom...I am very submissive, but it has not worked!

You could be the subliest of subs/bottoms (or at least you say you are, that's a different subject, entirely) but that doesn't mean that kink in the bedroom is going to work. The reason for that is, regardless of your desires, you're still dealing with a completely separate human being with their own version of sexual happiness, preferences, and desires that may not have anything to do with kink whatsoever. Big shock here. <Gasp> Some people really are vanilla and it doesn't have anything to do with what kind of personality they have 'in general'.

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So the questions!
Has anyone been in this situation... can you suggest how to build a D/s relationship from this low base in the bedroom?

If you're already attempting to play and it's not really working out, I'm more likely to suggest that you switch gears. Whatever method you're using, put that method on hold. By your own admission, that method isn't really working anyway (hence the thread) and you may not be doing yourself any favors by continuing to use it. I don't know what you are doing at this time, or how receptive your partner is to any of this, but what's been known to happen in some cases is the kinky person falls into the trap of nagging, cajoling, or trying to use types of emotional blackmail (if you love me, you'll do this) on their vanilla partner to try to get their kinks met. All of these are bad ideas and don't really get you the results you want.

Depending on who you are dealing with, and what their own thoughts are on this matter, pushing in another direction might not be the best idea. In my opinion, ideas like taking turns switching or going off for a dirty weekend are great for when you're dealing with somebody who already has that kinky spark and you're just trying to fan it into a flame. I usually don't have that vibe when somebody is trying to 'convert' a vanilla partner. You don't have a situation where the response is going to be, "oh wow, I've never heard of this kink stuff before... This is great!"

You probably do want a copy of "When Someone You Love is Kinky". However, this isn't a book that you throw at your partner and say, "I want you to learn to understand me". Your job is to read this first and take notes that should be relevant to your situation. After you've read it, ask your partner to do the same. As your partner reads it, be willing to discuss the material.

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and a more general question, Do we play opposites in the bedroom?

No. You're trying to make this too simplistic.

The answer is always "some".

Some people want to be opposites of their day to day life in the bedroom. Some people prefer to defer in all facets of their lives. Some people submit to only one person within the confines of a relationship and some people can't imagine doing so. There are seven billion people on this planet. Out of all of those, the answer to the question tends to be "some".

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I am a strong confident man in the real world, but just want to let go of control sexually, my partner is likewise....therefore is it possible that this is the reason we cant make it work in the bedroom!

Most likely, that's your problem. I know several s/s couples and out of those, some (there's that word again) service top each other. In others, only one partner does the service topping. Others still, find the whole idea of service topping distasteful. (And, really, do you want that in your bedroom?) Some s/s folks find someone as a couple who will top them both Orrrrrrr, they take the poly path and each of them find a Dominant to interact with independently. (Don't kid yourself on this. It's ALWAYS easier for the female of the het couple to succeed in this venture.)

I'm one half of a D/D couple. Like you, we've each tried bottoming (in your case topping) and it doesn't work for us. We became poly for this reason. I'm not suggesting that your first answer. Do some research. Actually invest.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/20/2016 2:00:50 PM   
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It sounds like both of you prefer a partner who takes charge during sex.

Which you can have if you folks think of it as service topping. Meaning doing something that doesn't turn your crank but you're willing to do to make the other one happy.

Join your local community, play non sexually with others. Take classes and learn ho to safely do the things to your partner that they want to experience.

But no, there's no way to magically make the other person find this hot if they don't.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/23/2016 10:28:57 PM   
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"Are Dommes born or made?"

Some studies suggest it is an inherent trait in humans and animals. There is often an alpha/dominant in litters before much real world environment can influence personality development. And baby sharks will exhibit dominant traits while still in the womb, the will cannibalize other siblings.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/24/2016 1:25:29 PM   
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Dunno the answer to your question. But if she isn't Domme in the bedroom ... it MIGHT be upbringing and social conditioning impacting Her sexual desires.

Try Elise Sutton. She has addressed this topic as both a psychologist and Domme.

She has published a book or two that addresses your question ...

Other than that, I have no advice, for now i only seek Dommes to date.

And then the BDSM is part of the mating game.

Good luck!



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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/29/2016 4:11:06 PM   
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They're manufactured....very small warehouse in N.J.

Shipping is additional.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 4/29/2016 4:20:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subcurio

I have been in a relationship with my soul mate for just over 2 years. We have a wonderful time together but the bedroom is not quite right.

She has no experience of being dominant in the bedroom, (she is a strong and decisive woman in general) and we have tried to "play" in the bedroom...I am very submissive, but it has not worked!

So the questions!
Has anyone been in this situation... can you suggest how to build a D/s relationship from this low base in the bedroom?

and a more general question, Do we play opposites in the bedroom? I am a strong confident man in the real world, but just want to let go of control sexually, my partner is likewise....therefore is it possible that this is the reason we cant make it work in the bedroo


Sounds like you are not aligned in the bedroom. At least not yet. Is there any reason to think that she has predilections for dominating men outside of her professional responsibilities? Did you discuss the topic with her?

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 5/3/2016 5:06:32 PM   
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Nobody is 'born' anything. Sexuality is the product of social conditioning, it's not genetic. If you want to make your wife more sadistic throw her into Syria or something lmao. I broke up with my ex for the very reason that she wasn't dominant enough. I eased her into it for a long time and she did learn to enjoy being dominant, but if you're extremely submissive, as I am, their dominance is more of a tease than anything else. Sorry to disappoint you. This is a little 'out there', but you could be her cuckold? Just an idea.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 5/4/2016 7:45:22 AM   
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In my opinion,through research and experience.

Dominance, The Psychological disposition of an individual to assert control,ruling or governing authority over one or many.
In theory,Dominance is a character trait and not all posess it.Does this mean that one cannot take on a Dominant role over another if they do not posess this trait in their gene pool? Theoretically yes,practicality no. Most can become a Dominant figure in anothers life such as a teacher, mother or father.In the realm of BDSM this also can stand true.One can learn to assert control over another in several ways.How to achieve this is widely debated but is also individualized.Psychology teaches there are to types of leaders,demanding and persuavesive.This can also be applied to BDSM in the role of a Dominant.Within the lifestyle a Dominant may demand certain behaviors,protocols or rituals and for some that works,for others they may take a persuavsive approach.There is no one true way and many debate which is right.While different communities behave differently they each have their ideals of how it all works.

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RE: Are Dommes born or made? - 5/5/2016 7:03:40 AM   
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FR.... didn't read nor research anything other than the title itself.

My opinion?

Dommes grow.
Just like everything else in nature.

A Domme today may or may not have started out as Domme yesterday, but She grew with her feminine realizations, like an acorn growing under the protective canopy of society, to initially branch out hesitatingly perhaps, or boldly as the case may be, but to branch out initially in all directions, seeking the path to light.

She followed that pattern seeking Her particular happiness like branches aiming at the sun, sometimes hampered by the societal covering of the trees around Her, until She finally bursts forth, like the lovely matron she is, reigning free over the canopy, to enjoy the sunshine that is what Her natural feminine dominance deserves.

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