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mrdpettigrew -> spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 2:58:04 PM)

Not looking to pick a fight or create problems for others ok but there are something’s that you should never and I mean never do and that is give others access to your passwords .
If you and other split for whatever reason that shearing of information can be devastating. It leaves you totally vulnerable. Email accounts act




OsideGirl -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 3:04:37 PM)

Meh....He has all of mine and I have all of his. Neither one of us are petty enough to go searching for revenge.




stef -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 3:28:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mrdpettigrew

Not looking to pick a fight or create problems for others ok but there are something’s that you should never and I mean never do and that is give others access to your passwords .
If you and other split for whatever reason that shearing of information can be devastating. It leaves you totally vulnerable. Email accounts act


First, postulating absolutes as advice is often frought with peril.

Second, what exactly does this have to do with BDSM?




needlesandpins -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 3:37:50 PM)

Well no not really, because what you do is use your damn common sense and change your passwords as soon as you split up. What's the issue?

needles




DesFIP -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 3:56:55 PM)

We've given each other them but we don't remember them. Instead, if he needs something and isn't home, he tells me it over the phone so I can look things up for him.

Mine are all written down and he could look at anything he wants, but doesn't bother.

The difference between us and the op is that we pick good people for partners. For all I know my ex may remember some of my passwords, but he wouldn't do anything wrong because he's not a bad person.




Wayward5oul -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 5:32:43 PM)

I wouldn't trust my ex, as he tried hacking all my accounts after my divorce and use the info against me in court. That was after spending two decades together.

He was a good guy at one time. Things change, life happens, people grow older and change. Sometimes for the worse. If it weren't for the fact that we share a little human, I wouldn't even trust him with my address.

But then again, when we split up, I changed all my security measures. Which is why when he did try to hack my accounts, he failed.

That's Break-Up Rule #1.




mousekabob -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 6:02:22 PM)

meh...we've been together over 10 years now and he knows all my passwords and I his. If we can't remember it, we just ask and we give. No big deal. If we were that petty we wouldn't be with each other.

If you are with someone who is petty enough to hack your passwords or take such advantage of your accounts, one or both of you need to grow up and start looking for a better relationship.






Lucylastic -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 6:07:13 PM)

Hubby doesnt have my passwords(except to shared accounts that we have), altho should something happen to me, he knows just where they are. Ive never gone into his phone, his wallet, or his computer. And as far as I know he has never gone into mine, my ex sub had a couple of passwords for business info(not financial)
I did change ALL my passwords when we split.
But I change my important ones often.
I never underestimate the things people can do for spite..
been there done that, got the scars.




shiftyw -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 6:10:19 PM)

He doesn't have my passwords. I don't have his. We just don't need to right now? No joint accounts or anything.

So...we just trust one another to not have secrets in the first place? I can't imagine him needing to look at my junk email.




mousekabob -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 6:19:03 PM)

I fix his phone and computers for him so having his passwords are sorta important for me gain access and he has mine for things like my Amazon Prime or Netflix account so he can use them.




littleclip -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 7:45:07 PM)

my owner has all of mine she helps keep me in line reminds me of things so i dont forget ect helps keep an eye on my bank acct if anything strange happens




camille65 -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/25/2016 8:30:30 PM)

He keeps mine in a spreadsheet (the man adores spreadsheets to an uncommon degree IMO) and I'm glad because I'm forgetful. He tracks everything for me. If we broke up I'd just ask him for a copy of the list then go down it changing each one. But that is super unlikely and if I trust him with my life I trust him with my passwords and PINs.




Greta75 -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 4:24:33 AM)

FR
When I was married, I had all my husband's passwords, to his bank accounts, all his emails, everything!
He also has all my passwords.
And even after we divorce, he never changed anything, he just trusts me. I changed all of mine.
But we never used it maliciously against each other ever.




crumpets -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 5:01:21 AM)

FR (to the OP mainly, but as an open statement to all...)

FWIW, if you and someone who knows computers are in the same household, they already have your password.

HINT: Anyone who knows the slightest bit about computers knows how to do this.




DesFIP -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 7:00:07 AM)

I go into The Man's wallet and phone constantly. Especially if he's driving. I answer the texts he gets from the kids and friends, I fish out money for a toll or a drive through soda.

I'm glad I have access to his wallet because he just puts the money back all crumpled and in no order which makes me cringe. So I'm always happy to straighten the bills out and sort them. Ones in front, fives behind, and so on.




WickedsDesire -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 8:02:16 AM)

Op is 100% correct, and crumpets too, if not quite true.

why the fuk is it snowing now check out wickedesires insta, as this site does not allow me to post videos (it lags behind all others)- expect hundreds of cats pictures too btw but as I inferred this afternoons one is of snow

Last time I read collarbones TOS (it means Terms of Service)

My new Master or Mistess has asked for my password, what should I do?
Do not give your account password to anyone, least of all people you recently met on the site. We receive numerous support requests every day from users who gave their password to another user and who now find themselves locked out of their own account because the other person changed the password. Don't let this happen to you! Remember, our support staff is not authorized to give out passwords under any circumstances so, if you give your password to another user, be prepared to accept the consequences.


Wayward5oul has a very good point, the best, for people can become bitter and twisted and warped

as for me no-one has my passwords, and my phone remains unlocked since the beginning of time, I imply have nothing to hide...they are free to look through it, even when I slumber, not that I would ever look through theirs.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 8:41:37 AM)

I wrote my passwords and accounting info for Kay because if something happens to me, life goes on and bills need paid and she will need to know how to get ahold of people etc. I don't have hers because I handle bills (everything is in my name) and I don't have any need or reason to read her mail.

Neither of us is spiteful and we would never want to hurt the other even if life took us in different directions as it has done a few times in the past.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 9:00:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets
FWIW, if you and someone who knows computers are in the same household, they already have your password.



You mean:

If you and someone who knows computers AND who doesn't respect your privacy are in the same household, they already have your password.

Merely being able to get a password doesn't mean that somebody will actually do so, or use it.

Hell, we've got a household password manager (which I'm shocked most people on this thread don't use, I had no idea people still wrote passwords down or used spreadsheets to manage them) and even though I've got access to all of his passwords, there's certain accounts private to him that I've never opened, and vice versa.




crumpets -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 5:42:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
If you and someone who knows computers AND who doesn't respect your privacy are in the same household, they already have your password.


Thank you for catching that omission in detail on my part.

I do agree with you.

And I appreciate that you are looking at the details (which fly by most people).

Just like most men aren't creeps when it comes to pursuing women (e.g., no response to an email is a response), I agree that most people who know how computers work don't use them to "spy" on others. I certainly don't.

But I was just telling a fact to the group as a public service.

If you use Collarspace, and if you don't use encryption (and even if you do use encryption), your password is ALREADY KNOWN to anyone who knows how to get it (because it's typed "in the clear").

But, just because it's easy to obtain, doesn't mean anyone cares to obtain it. Just as I don't even bother reading people's profiles here, if a computer saavy person isn't interested in your passwords, then there's no problem typing them in the clear.

This concept of password trust seems to run throughout this thread, which I agree with.
If you trust the people in your household, then it is immaterial if they have your password.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Merely being able to get a password doesn't mean that somebody will actually do so, or use it.

Exactly.

For example, your (plural your) place of work generally logs every computer transaction, and sometimes every keystroke, and they don't go breaking into people's bank accounts just because they have that information.

Same with any household. If you trust the people in the household (and we all generally do), then you can leave your wallet on the kitchen table without fear someone will rummage through it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Hell, we've got a household password manager (which I'm shocked most people on this thread don't use, I had no idea people still wrote passwords down or used spreadsheets to manage them) and even though I've got access to all of his passwords, there's certain accounts private to him that I've never opened, and vice versa.


There are many models for password management.

For example, I use KeePassX on Linux, but there are many others that are just as useful:
  • Fiagaro's Password Manager
  • Gpass
  • Gpassword Manager
  • Gringotts
  • KeePassX
  • MyPasswords
  • PasswordSafe
  • Revelation
    etc.




  • mousekabob -> RE: spite and vengance of others (4/26/2016 5:47:25 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: DesFIP

    I go into The Man's wallet and phone constantly. Especially if he's driving. I answer the texts he gets from the kids and friends, I fish out money for a toll or a drive through soda.

    I'm glad I have access to his wallet because he just puts the money back all crumpled and in no order which makes me cringe. So I'm always happy to straighten the bills out and sort them. Ones in front, fives behind, and so on.


    We're the same way. I've even asked him to get stuff out of my purse for me...which makes him cringe sometimes because of all the crap I keep in there. lol. I really need to clean it out one of these days. [:D]




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