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MrRodgers -> Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 4:51:26 PM)

Don't worry people, I am telling you that it does not make a shit-pot full of difference what Trump says, just like HRC and ALL of the rest except Kennedy or Reagan (as of 69 days later) Trump...WILL play ball. He will once elected, if somehow America really gets off their ass and votes for this clown...WILL play ball. Guess what ? No matter who gets elected, ok ? What does that mean ?

That means: (Obama/Bush III or IV or V) he will:

.....keep GITMO open and restock it with a bigger bounty ($$) on ME (ISIS) heads.

.....keep up and even increase the drone war, killing even more than the average 49 civilians to get 1 terrorist.

.....keep up the value of equities, securities...meaning the value of paper.

.....go on a campaign for TPPA approval.

.....Support/approve the XL pipeline.

.....will not go into an deporting frenzy as they are too profit-sensitive.

.....will NOT build any wall at the Mex. border. See above.

.....will not get any law passed containing any threat to American corporate profits. (i.e. NO tariffs, no taxes, or excises, no trade restrictions at all)

.....will feed the pentagon more and more billion$.

.....will run up the deficit if necessary.

.....will keep All subsidies in place.

.....will massively deregulate.

.....will support every banker/corporatist policy for profits and the race to the bottom for labor.

.....will support global military hegemony.

.....will reduce capital gains taxes, (repubs) may be to zero so the 1% will, if the play their cards right...not pay any federal tax at all.

You see kinkroids, ordinarily, the so-called establishment which is really the 'power behind the throne' would be all for a Trump. But he is unpredictable and that power...can't have that. HRC...IS more than predictable. Hell HRC is practically reading from 'their' script.

Examples: Al Gore, John Kerry...not all that much different except around the edges in which the 'power' doesn't care. Just like they didn't worry with Clinton or Monica or impeachment. Look what Clinton got done for them. You think they gave a flying fuck about a lousy 4% raise in the top bracket ? Hardly !! (he left cap gains at 15%) That's for partisan bullshit and what we see and hear so much of now. Most of the issues are merely for partisan bullshit and the 'power' loves how that's so distracting. Just like these rallies and these blogs.

Try this on for size: McCain was a jingoist and too dumb, and then picked Palin. (?) Talk about unpredictable and if McCain croaked ? Wow !! Obama was fine as [they] knew...he would play ball. Romney would have been great for the 'power' but blew it and was running against an incumbent who was doing what ? He was fucking...playing ball. Biden...would play ball.

So get over it. I am telling you it doesn't matter who the fuck the pres. is, whoever [it] is...won't make any real 'Trump or Bernie' difference. Those two are fluff, window dressing and political cannon fodder.






AtUrCervix -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 5:07:00 PM)

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mnottertail -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 5:17:36 PM)

I ain't worried, just consider the hard core caucus and primary count. He could not be elected toiletlicker at KFC.




MrRodgers -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 6:22:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I ain't worried, just consider the hard core caucus and primary count. He could not be elected toiletlicker at KFC.

Well that's really my whole point. Take anyone of them, it doesn't matter. Watch and see who Trumps picks as a running mate. How much do you wanna bet it will be an establishment repub ? You see if Trump doesn't play ball, soon his VP would be pres.

Of course, the very essence of fucking with the establishment, would be to select Bernie, Trumps biggest insurance policy. But then if they need to, they'd will find a way to get rid of Bernie first.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 6:32:33 PM)

Who is he gonna pick, Boehner? Northern ticket and that, as we say is end of the toilet. Look what he would have to overcome. Black folks in the south. Women in the United States Any nutsucker match-up with him will cut out more demographics than he owns. He got hateful white guys. What will any vp add to the ticket?




MrRodgers -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 6:45:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Who is he gonna pick, Boehner? Northern ticket and that, as we say is end of the toilet. Look what he would have to overcome. Black folks in the south. Women in the United States Any nutsucker match-up with him will cut out more demographics than he owns. He got hateful white guys. What will any vp add to the ticket?

Insurance or motivation, depending on what Trumps tries to do. It's why although he was his opponent and Reagan wanted no part of him, he picked Bush I. When Reagan refused to play ball, well...you saw what happened.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 6:50:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Who is he gonna pick, Boehner? Northern ticket and that, as we say is end of the toilet. Look what he would have to overcome. Black folks in the south. Women in the United States Any nutsucker match-up with him will cut out more demographics than he owns. He got hateful white guys. What will any vp add to the ticket?

Insurance or motivation, depending on what Trumps tries to do. It's why although he was his opponent and Reagan wanted no part of him, he picked Bush I. When Reagan refused to play ball, well...you saw what happened.

Rog..............no go... I know that st. wrinkelmeat tried to up his gamel he failed Son teddy dd the samehe is in for the next one. But guy, not even nutsuckers will actually try to elect these nutsuckere, they are nutsuckers. That is finish.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 6:53:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Who is he gonna pick, Boehner? Northern ticket and that, as we say is end of the toilet. Look what he would have to overcome. Black folks in the south. Women in the United States Any nutsucker match-up with him will cut out more demographics than he owns. He got hateful white guys. What will any vp add to the ticket?

Insurance or motivation, depending on what Trumps tries to do. It's why although he was his opponent and Reagan wanted no part of him, he picked Bush I. When Reagan refused to play ball, well...you saw what happened.


Nope Rog. I don't even gotta think about that ticket, its a nutsucker.




MrRodgers -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/29/2016 10:53:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Who is he gonna pick, Boehner? Northern ticket and that, as we say is end of the toilet. Look what he would have to overcome. Black folks in the south. Women in the United States Any nutsucker match-up with him will cut out more demographics than he owns. He got hateful white guys. What will any vp add to the ticket?

Insurance or motivation, depending on what Trumps tries to do. It's why although he was his opponent and Reagan wanted no part of him, he picked Bush I. When Reagan refused to play ball, well...you saw what happened.


Nope Rog. I don't even gotta think about that ticket, its a nutsucker.

Well I was just being facetious about Bernie. I know that's an impossibility but Trump will get a stern warning to play ball. The others with the exception of Bernie are already in the loop but [he] has no chance.....so. Trump 'electorially' may be a long shot but the 'power behind the throne' wants no surprises and will need to cover all their bases.

Look, Fox news denigrated Ron Paul calling him a loser even as he was winning call-ins. Ridiculed him incessantly. Then the entire mainstream, the same. Then after Obama started winning and knowing that McCain was not going to win, then picked Palin...Fox dumped him too and Obama became 'news' yes, even at Fox.

Look, this may sound a bit small but even Jessie Ventura got a surprise meeting with the CIA after he was elected gov. Now one has to ask themselves...why him ? And in fact, he asked them the same question. They told him that they didn't expect him (to come on the scene) and wanted 'cover their bases.'

The 'history' of America since WWII, almost directly parallels the history of the CIA. So Trump right now...is the wild card. He may even 'get the message' soon as he gets the nomination...if he gets it. So if one wants to think any president will really make a difference...think again.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/30/2016 8:55:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Don't worry people, I am telling you that it does not make a shit-pot full of difference what Trump says, blah blah blah




And you got all that from your crystal ball. Amazing..

I feel so much better now.

Got news for you - if trump does not a damn thing - I'm a happy man.
If he repeals Obama care - I'm ecstatic.
Does even more.. Pure gravy.





MrRodgers -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/30/2016 11:02:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Don't worry people, I am telling you that it does not make a shit-pot full of difference what Trump says, blah blah blah




And you got all that from your crystal ball. Amazing..

I feel so much better now.

Got news for you - if trump does not a damn thing - I'm a happy man.
If he repeals Obama care - I'm ecstatic.
Does even more.. Pure gravy.



Well for me, I am at the age where I pretty much know my future. But for the young, that's the essence of my point really. We've gotten to the point where [you've] set such a low bar for what would make you happy, that it really doesn't matter how presidents are otherwise used. Like say, going to war with Iran, even if concocted, like so many before.

The young and their kids and grandkids will be...spitting on out graves. In fact your example is one factor. Let's agree that Obamacare needs a major overhaul if not repealed but the power behind the throne wants a health care mandate. Then we will have a fucking mandate...it's that simple.

Let's go all of the way and repeal Medicare and Medicaid even if it isn't to have a few more carrier groups. There's your headway into population control and time for your kids to get into the mortuary business, or maybe your grandkids get into the Soylent green business.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/30/2016 11:28:55 AM)

Think I worked out he only needs 46% of the remaining delegates. I think he will do it. Albeit erm the guy behind Cruz - no idea his name, remains -orders of the higher echelon in an attempt to split the vote and thwart (not enough thwarting these days)him getting the necessary amount.

I think you will find in one term loons can dismantle quite a lot and will not play ball as you claim....






Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary, Trump, Obama, W, Kerry, Gore and Clinton (4/30/2016 3:33:20 PM)

Said it two weeks ago - he will do it. The republicans are congealing, something that hadn't factored into the polls, which are retrospective.




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