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thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 1:35:49 PM)

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I believe that he did "report" this to the police. I took:

ORIGINAL: http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/15668200-106/records-city-of-new-orleans-paid-40000-to-cabbie-who-videotaped-local-lawyers-sex-plea

Since his call to 911 shortly after the fare — “She whipped out my penis and was trying to give me oral sex and I said no” — Farrell has maintained he was a victim of Gaubert’s drunken aggression. He quickly filed a civil claim against Gaubert, whose radio show on WGSO, “Law Out Loud,” ended shortly after the cab ride.


the words in red to be a direct quote from his 911 call (since it's in quotation marks and all). If we reverse the genders, the cops abso-fucking-lutely would have (at minimum) found him, cuffed him, and asked him to come to the police station for a "little chat". They wouldn't even have to talk to the prosecutor about an arrest warrant. It's S.O.P.

Nothing in the article suggests that her being "charged" with the small-potatoes crap charges included an arrest (doubtful. She was also a bit of a "local celebrity") or an interrogation.

I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that the reason for the civil suit was because the police/prosecutors refused to move on this. Your point about knowing the gender of the police and prosecutor is well taken, as well.

Your quoted parts do not show up on the video do they? We see her coming over the front seat and also leaving the cab. Just when did this penis grabbing occure?
That the cops reacted unprofessionally is a given...it is new orleans, which is well known to have nothing but scumbags for cops.




Edwird -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 1:36:07 PM)

“She whipped out my penis"


Well here we are, society gone to hell in a hand baguette ...





tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 1:41:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

If roles were reversed no one would argue that this was clearly sexual assault it should be in this case as well.



I believe that he did "report" this to the police. I took:

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ORIGINAL: http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/15668200-106/records-city-of-new-orleans-paid-40000-to-cabbie-who-videotaped-local-lawyers-sex-plea

Since his call to 911 shortly after the fare — “She whipped out my penis and was trying to give me oral sex and I said no” — Farrell has maintained he was a victim of Gaubert’s drunken aggression. He quickly filed a civil claim against Gaubert, whose radio show on WGSO, “Law Out Loud,” ended shortly after the cab ride.



the words in red to be a direct quote from his 911 call (since it's in quotation marks and all). If we reverse the genders, the cops abso-fucking-lutely would have (at minimum) found him, cuffed him, and asked him to come to the police station for a "little chat". They wouldn't even have to talk to the prosecutor about an arrest warrant. It's S.O.P.

Nothing in the article suggests that her being "charged" with the small-potatoes crap charges included an arrest (doubtful. She was also a bit of a "local celebrity") or an interrogation.

I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that the reason for the civil suit was because the police/prosecutors refused to move on this. Your point about knowing the gender of the police and prosecutor is well taken, as well.



Michael


as I understand such situations, calling 911 is not the same as filing a complaint of assault/rape.. one is just a phone call, the other has your statement in writing and your signature..




Bhruic -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 1:52:29 PM)

Maybe he wanted to pursue financial damages, which is what civil cases are for. If you pursue a criminal case and lose, you are pretty much sunk for a civil case.




tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 1:56:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: tj444

Its probably a good thing he turned her down cuz she had been drinking all night, and having sex with someone that is drunk (therefore could not give consent) could have been grounds for her to have him charged with assault/rape..


Are you saying that if I go to a bar and pick up/get picked up and have sex I am the assaulter/rapist because I was sober and she was not?



I am saying that this chick manipulated the situation after he filed his civil claim and lied to the cops so they would charge & jail him with extortion (when even her lawyer said it wasnt an extortion attempt).. imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I would never been in the situation you described as i rarely drink (& havent been in a bar since i was a kid) so I am not up on the law (especially in the US) but why take the chance and pick up someone drunk? its like pissing into the wind.. it can come back on ya in a very bad way.. just not a smart thing to do..




thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 2:01:59 PM)


ORIGINAL: Bhruic

Maybe he wanted to pursue financial damages, which is what civil cases are for. If you pursue a criminal case and lose, you are pretty much sunk for a civil case.


Yup




thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 2:05:14 PM)


ORIGINAL: tj444
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Its probably a good thing he turned her down cuz she had been drinking all night, and having sex with someone that is drunk (therefore could not give consent) could have been grounds for her to have him charged with assault/rape..


Are you saying that if I go to a bar and pick up/get picked up and have sex I am the assaulter/rapist because I was sober and she was not?



I am saying that this chick manipulated the situation after he filed his civil claim and lied to the cops so they would charge & jail him with extortion (when even her lawyer said it wasnt an extortion attempt)..


Agreed


imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I have had sex with many drunks...as long as they are conscious they will participate in some pretty bizarre shit[:)]





tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 2:54:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tj444
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I have had sex with many drunks...as long as they are conscious they will participate in some pretty bizarre shit[:)]


well,.. so you seem to find pretty bizarre drunks and not the totally crazy drunks (like this chick).. lucky you! [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 3:22:47 PM)

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Its probably a good thing he turned her down cuz she had been drinking all night, and having sex with someone that is drunk (therefore could not give consent) could have been grounds for her to have him charged with assault/rape..


Are you saying that if I go to a bar and pick up/get picked up and have sex I am the assaulter/rapist because I was sober and she was not?


Yes, I'd say. Or at least - that's the only safe way to think. Anyway, that's the rough basis on which I'd operate, from the occasional highly alarming experience in my past. It has to be remembered that it can take an astonishingly tiny amount (to many males) of alcohol to get certain women utterly pissed out of their brains.

In general I've concluded that a drunken woman you don't know who's apparently avid for some squelchy action is a bloody menace. Did that in my twenties ... definitely not going there again.




Lucylastic -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 3:46:03 PM)

Well depends on whereyou come from apparently
Oklahoma Court Rules That Having Oral Sex With A Passed Out Woman Is Not Rape

Charges against a teenage boy, who allegedly had oral sex with a woman who passed out from drinking, may not proceed, according to an opinion by Oklahoma’s highest criminal court. The opinion, which was handed down last month but began to receive press attention this week, appears to turn on an oversight in Oklahoma’s criminal law.
The case involves a 17-year-old, identified only as R.Z.M. in the court’s opinion, who was drinking and smoking marijuana in a Tulsa park with a 16-year-old female classmate. This classmate reportedly became so drunk that she was unable to walk, was slipping in and out of consciousness, and had to be carried to a car. Sometime after these events, a blood test found her blood-alcohol level to be .341, over four times the legal limit to drive a car in Oklahoma.
After R.Z.M.’s DNA was found on the young victim, he claimed that she had consensual oral sex with him. After prosecutors charged R.Z.M. with “Forcible Sodomy,” a lower court ruled that this crime “cannot occur where a victim is so intoxicated as to be completely unconscious at the time of the sexual act of oral copulation.” The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals, the state’s highest court on criminal matters, agreed with this decision.
Though prosecutors criticized the court’s decision, responsibility for this outcome appears to rest with Oklahoma’s legislature and not with its judiciary. Although Oklahoma’s rape law permits a conviction when “the victim is at the time unconscious of the nature of the act and this fact is known to the accused,” that law defines rape only to include “an act of sexual intercourse involving vaginal or anal penetration.” Because the alleged victim in this case was penetrated orally, R.Z.M.’s alleged actions do not constitute rape in Oklahoma.
Although the state’s “Forcible Sodomy” law is not explicitly limited to vaginal or anal penetration, that law does not include the language applying to unconscious victims. Thus, the court determined that it could not be applied to R.Z.M.’s case. If Oklahoma lawmakers wish for people like R.Z.M. to be convicted in the future, they will likely need to update the forcible sodomy law to bring it in line with the state’s rape law.
Indeed, as a window into just how antiquated that “forcible sodomy” law is, it only refers to the acts prohibited by the law using the euphemistic phrase “the detestable and abominable crime against nature.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/04/28/3773579/a-courts-revolting-leniency-to-men-who-sexually-prey-on-passed-out-drunk-women/




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 3:47:17 PM)

FR
Well if having sex when drunk is a form of rape, then I have been raped hundreds and hundreds of times, and enjoyed it almost every time.




tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 3:54:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

FR
Well if having sex when drunk is a form of rape, then I have been raped hundreds and hundreds of times, and enjoyed it almost every time.


almost every time??? (tj raises one eyebrow)




PeonForHer -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 4:17:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

FR
Well if having sex when drunk is a form of rape, then I have been raped hundreds and hundreds of times, and enjoyed it almost every time.


Do you not occasionally feel that you should slow your life down just a little, TDC?




Edwird -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 6:00:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444




Its probably a good thing he turned her down cuz she had been drinking all night, and having sex with someone that is drunk (therefore could not give consent) could have been grounds for her to have him charged with assault/rape..


OH MY GOODNESS!

By that token (of completely nonsensical) "thought", a drunk man never gives 'consent' to his raping a woman, if done under that condition.

Will you PLEASE just go back to Canada and STFU?






thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 7:35:36 PM)


ORIGINAL: tj444
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I have had sex with many drunks...as long as they are conscious they will participate in some pretty bizarre shit[:)]


well,.. so you seem to find pretty bizarre drunks and not the totally crazy drunks (like this chick).. lucky you! [:D]

If it had been my cab I would have done her in a heartbeat and charged her for the ride...both of them[:D]




thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 7:38:29 PM)


ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

FR
Well if having sex when drunk is a form of rape, then I have been raped hundreds and hundreds of times, and enjoyed it almost every time.


Do you not occasionally feel that you should slow your life down just a little, TDC?

Will you please butt out...she may not have already got her ticket to atlantic city...I will be in vegas by sunup tomorrow...I may be able to way lay her with some cheap wine before she makes the airport.




thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 7:39:30 PM)


ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

FR
Well if having sex when drunk is a form of rape, then I have been raped hundreds and hundreds of times, and enjoyed it almost every time.


Have some madera my dear?




tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 7:45:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: tj444




Its probably a good thing he turned her down cuz she had been drinking all night, and having sex with someone that is drunk (therefore could not give consent) could have been grounds for her to have him charged with assault/rape..


OH MY GOODNESS!

By that token (of completely nonsensical) "thought", a drunk man never gives 'consent' to his raping a woman, if done under that condition.

Will you PLEASE just go back to Canada and STFU?


its not nonsensical for crazy people like her.. did you miss the part where she falsely had him charged for extortion & thrown in jail??? & you think having him charged with rape somehow wouldnt be possible??? lol There are a lot of nonsensical nutbars here in the US.. (Trump being a one of them)..

and no, i wont go back to Canada or shut up so FO..




tj444 -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 7:51:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: tj444
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I have had sex with many drunks...as long as they are conscious they will participate in some pretty bizarre shit[:)]


well,.. so you seem to find pretty bizarre drunks and not the totally crazy drunks (like this chick).. lucky you! [:D]

If it had been my cab I would have done her in a heartbeat and charged her for the ride...both of them[:D]


I am sure lotsa guys would.. wouldnt ya be seriously afraid of catching something tho??? my gawd, who knows where she has been and how often... there is nothing wrong with a girl being a slut but a slut that doesnt think about taking precautions is just scary.. just sayin'




thompsonx -> RE: What's Wrong With ... (5/3/2016 8:05:49 PM)

ORIGINAL: tj444
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


imo any guy having sex with her when she was drunk coulda landed that guy in jail charged with rape.. she is just one of those crazy ones you truly regret ever meeting, kwim?

I have had sex with many drunks...as long as they are conscious they will participate in some pretty bizarre shit[:)]


well,.. so you seem to find pretty bizarre drunks and not the totally crazy drunks (like this chick).. lucky you! [:D]

If it had been my cab I would have done her in a heartbeat and charged her for the ride...both of them[:D]


I am sure lotsa guys would.. wouldnt ya be seriously afraid of catching something tho??? my gawd, who knows where she has been and how often... there is nothing wrong with a girl being a slut but a slut that doesnt think about taking precautions is just scary.. just sayin'


I am an old guy and plan on getting a lot older...therefore I always wear a party hat when I go to a party.[;)]




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