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Wayward5oul -> Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 6:06:22 PM)

So much for a contested convention.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-cruz-exits-republican-race-president-003624957--election.html




mnottertail -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 6:07:30 PM)

no because nutsuckers really 'care'.




stef -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 6:12:54 PM)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/03/politics/ted-cruz-drops-out/index.html




Lucylastic -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 6:42:51 PM)

well I wasnt expecting that.
I guess the fix is in




mnottertail -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 7:06:11 PM)

So, in the face of freemarket communists and libertarians going their own way, while felching nutsucker slobberblogs within the military-industrial complex, there is a great deal of lip on zippers, but not a realistic meme for America?

Gobble felch, nutsuckers..................




kdsub -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 8:02:45 PM)

Now we will find out if America is ready for a woman President. If Clinton does not win it will not be over who is qualified.

I believe Trump supporters are a fanatical minority of conservative voters that will have little to say about who are next president is. But I do believe there are a significant portion of Democratic, Republican, and independent voters who would vote for a male Democrat nominee over Trump but may not vote for a woman.

Butch




thompsonx -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 8:10:13 PM)


ORIGINAL: kdsub

Still waiting butch




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 8:42:10 PM)

I guess it's all up to Kasich now, eh? [;)]




Lucylastic -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 9:13:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Now we will find out if America is ready for a woman President. If Clinton does not win it will not be over who is qualified.

I believe Trump supporters are a fanatical minority of conservative voters that will have little to say about who are next president is. But I do believe there are a significant portion of Democratic, Republican, and independent voters who would vote for a male Democrat nominee over Trump but may not vote for a woman.

Butch


LOL then they deserve trump.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 9:13:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Now we will find out if America is ready for a woman President. If Clinton does not win it will not be over who is qualified.

I believe Trump supporters are a fanatical minority of conservative voters that will have little to say about who are next president is. But I do believe there are a significant portion of Democratic, Republican, and independent voters who would vote for a male Democrat nominee over Trump but may not vote for a woman.

Butch



That's not true for me. Our personal differences aside, I'd vote for you before I'd vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton whom I believe to be the anti-Christ.

Hell, I'd vote for that socialist twat from (?)Minnesota(?) - I can't even think of her name - before the anti-Christ. I'd vote for Wasserman-Shultz before the anti-Christ.

I'm looking forward to the James Comey Primary.



Michael




stef -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 9:20:09 PM)

Spoken like a true "christian". [image]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes008.gif[/image]




BamaD -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 9:22:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Now we will find out if America is ready for a woman President. If Clinton does not win it will not be over who is qualified.

I believe Trump supporters are a fanatical minority of conservative voters that will have little to say about who are next president is. But I do believe there are a significant portion of Democratic, Republican, and independent voters who would vote for a male Democrat nominee over Trump but may not vote for a woman.

Butch



That's not true for me. Our personal differences aside, I'd vote for you before I'd vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton whom I believe to be the anti-Christ.

Hell, I'd vote for that socialist twat from (?)Minnesota(?) - I can't even think of her name - before the anti-Christ. I'd vote for Wasserman-Shultz before the anti-Christ.

I'm looking forward to the James Comey Primary.



Michael


I agree, my issue isn't with a woman, but Hillary is evil.
If it is about "being ready" for a woman president it would be allowing the fact that she id a woman override the fact that she isthe worst candidate either party hasever offered.




Phydeaux -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/3/2016 10:53:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

well I wasnt expecting that.
I guess the fix is in


I said within two weeks of trump declaring that he would win.

I said it in the first week in Mar. If cruz or kasich didn't drop by Mar 17, trump will be the nominee. I said couple of weeks ago and again a few days ago that the polls which are restropective, do not reflect that republican sentinement has gelled around trump.

And while you democrats are salivating at the prospect of running against him - and he is down by 19 points in the polls and 4-1 in vegas - those numbers are wrong too.

Y'all have consistently underestimated him. You do not understand how angry people are. Democrats are salivating at the prospect of picking up 15-20 seats in the house, and regaining the senate.

Too early to tell. But I don't think so. I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

As I said here more than a couple of weeks ago - I expect no drama at the republican convention - and more drama at the democrat convention. Sanders won Indiana - I expect him to win West Virginia handily. And if he's smart - there will be a photo op moment - a point - much like today - where clinton is apologizing for braggin she was going to put coal miners out of work - a point that will invite democrats to wonder - what the hell are we doing.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 12:47:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
I agree, my issue isn't with a woman, but Hillary is evil.
If it is about "being ready" for a woman president it would be allowing the fact that she id a woman override the fact that she isthe worst candidate either party hasever offered.


The 2008 election was more about electing a black man than about which candidate was better qualified for the office. Hillary was more qualified than Obama. McCain (as bad a candidate as he was) was more qualified. Sarah fucking Palin was more qualified. In 2008, the least qualified Democratic candidate won their nomination. It wasn't about who was more qualified.

In 2012, Obama was more qualified than he was in 2008, and more qualified for the office of the President than Mitt Romney, but 4 years experience being in that position is tough to beat.

Hillary is more qualified than Bernie. Hillary is more qualified than Trump. I think she's more qualified than any other candidate that's run in the GOP or Democratic races. Trump is one of the least, if not the least.

This election, if Hillary isn't indicted beforehand, will be about electing a woman to the office of President.

Get your tin foil hats out.....

What if Hillary and Obama know that she's going to be indicted, and likely found guilty? What if she becomes the nominee selects Obama as VP (Barack or Michelle)? She'll likely be elected, but the indictment and trial will cause her to resign. That leaves Obama as President ("No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.") for a third term, or a black woman as President.

Democrats: first black President; first woman President, and, perhaps, first black woman President.

Okay, you can now safely remove your tin foil hats. [8D]




tweakabelle -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 2:36:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

My suspicion is that every liberal is secretly delighted with Trump claiming the GOP nomination. How could liberals not be delighted as they witness the GOP commit political suicide?

There is simply no way The Mop is going to win the general election. How can someone like Trump win the independents and swinging voters? The Mop has sold his soul to the far Right in an squalid unprincipled grab for the GOP nomination, alienating massive blocks of voters on the way. For him to have any appeal to middle voters, The Mop has to renege on all his promises he made to prostitute himself to the far and evangelical Right.

Who knows what further outrages The Mop will deliver as he tries desperately to make up ground on Hilary or Saunders, further alienating massive blocks of voters who like their candidates to have integrity and look and sound Presidential, not come across like a street corner bigot on a soap box? So The Mop is either a tool of the Far Right or an insincere, lying demagogue (or both).

How can people like Cruz ask or recommend people to vote for someone he called a "pathological liar" (and worse) only a week ago? How can any genuine conservative vote for a race baiting woman hating demagogue billionaire like Trump? The Mop is the antithesis of genuine conservatism.

Personally I am enjoying watching the GOP self-destruct so spectacularly. I wish things like this could happen more often. The USA and its citizens will be the real winners in this election.

(Politically,) The Mop is dead. Long live The Mop! [:D]




thompsonx -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 2:46:09 AM)


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
I said within two weeks of trump declaring that he would win.

I said it in the first week in Mar. If cruz or kasich didn't drop by Mar 17, trump will be the nominee. I said couple of weeks ago and again a few days ago that the polls which are restropective, do not reflect that republican sentinement has gelled around trump.

And while you democrats are salivating at the prospect of running against him - and he is down by 19 points in the polls and 4-1 in vegas - those numbers are wrong too.

Y'all have consistently underestimated him. You do not understand how angry people are. Democrats are salivating at the prospect of picking up 15-20 seats in the house, and regaining the senate.

Too early to tell. But I don't think so. I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

As I said here more than a couple of weeks ago - I expect no drama at the republican convention - and more drama at the democrat convention. Sanders won Indiana - I expect him to win West Virginia handily. And if he's smart - there will be a photo op moment - a point - much like today - where clinton is apologizing for braggin she was going to put coal miners out of work - a point that will invite democrats to wonder - what the hell are we doing.

You also said their was a hydrogen highway???
You also said that melting the artic ice cap would have no effect on glaciers???
You also said that solar pannels cost more than the energy they produce???
You also said solar pannels are only 5% effective???
You are more full of shit than a christmas goose.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.




thishereboi -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 2:58:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
How can people like Cruz ask or recommend people to vote for someone he called a "pathological liar" (and worse) only a week ago? How can any genuine conservative vote for a race baiting woman hating demagogue billionaire like Trump? The Mop is the antithesis of genuine conservatism.



That is a really good question. Perhaps he could go ask the shrill one for tips. She seems to be an expert at lying and manipulating things, I'm sure she could help.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 3:08:22 AM)

When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow~

I'm not reading the Cruz has quit, he's 'suspending' his campaign. No real politician closes the door on future opportunity? Given what the donald has said about fellow Republicans, no telling what he'll outrage with attacking HRC. It's remotely possible he could even embarrass himself? Leaving a zero chance of winning, a withdrawal from candidacy leaves the field again open.




Greta75 -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 4:54:54 AM)

Wow!!!
I don't understand what's going on! How can a man who announced his VP a few days ago, drop out so soon?
What's going on behind the scenes!!




Phydeaux -> RE: Cruz drops out? (5/4/2016 5:19:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow~

I'm not reading the Cruz has quit, he's 'suspending' his campaign. No real politician closes the door on future opportunity? Given what the donald has said about fellow Republicans, no telling what he'll outrage with attacking HRC. It's remotely possible he could even embarrass himself? Leaving a zero chance of winning, a withdrawal from candidacy leaves the field again open.


No. If one quits, it forecloses the option of fundraising. Suspending it is legal terminalese that says - I am quitting, I recognize that I cannot win, but this allows me to keep fundraising, pay off campaign debts, and perhaps be in position to sway things should something strange develop.

In short:
a). Fundraising.
b). Politician's hedge.




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