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RE: What my daughter wrote says it all... - 5/13/2016 3:07:17 AM   
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Body adornment and modification has been around since the beginning of time. some people are a little more crazy about it than others. so are some of the people against it.

This is true, you see it in tribal women, they mutilate their lips, their necks, their ears, their bodies, because of the perception of the society they live in, that, that's what's beauty is. Needs artificial enhancement.

I don't have to be supportive of any of that. I feel deep down inside of me, this is wrong. It is wrong that people needs to be anything other than their natural self to be perceived as beautiful as they are.

I bet when people stop giving shit to a straight man for enjoying dressing up as a woman for example. That man will feel no need for gender reassignment. He just needs it, because he feels the need to justify why he wants to dress as a woman.


You can just be a decent person though, and still be supportive of other people's choices. It doesn't interfere with your life, so why can't you just accept people for what they want to be, just as you would want them to accept you for who you are?

Why do you have to make it such a big issue about what they should not do to their own bodies.

I had a guy tell me yesterday on Facebook that he would tell a large lady in a meme to go on a diet. I was amazed by this and asked him if he would also tell a slim lady that she really out to eat something. He asked me why he should do this. Well exactly; who the hell are you to tell a slim lady that she should eat something and put weight on, and in the same token what makes you think you have the right to tell a larger person they need to lose weight? He admitted defeat, although I think he just realised that I wasn't giving up on his body shaming. This is the same sort of thing. No matter what our personal thoughts on the subject it doesn't give us the right to be jerks to other people.

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RE: What my daughter wrote says it all... - 5/13/2016 4:47:56 AM   
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Distress surrounding one's appearance is not usually caused by emotional dissonance.

Wanting a different nose of larger breasts is a different experience from having one's body not match what is in one's head.

Did you see The Danish Girl?
Maybe you should.

"“Trans people have brains that are different from males and females, a unique kind of brain,” Guillamon says. “It is simplistic to say that a female-to-male transgender person is a female trapped in a male body. It's not because they have a male brain but a transsexual brain.” Of course, behavior and experience shape brain anatomy, so it is impossible to say if these subtle differences are inborn."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

"Rather, a growing body of research is pointing to biological origins. The 2008 discovery by Australian researchers of a genetic variation in transgender women—their receptor gene for the sex hormone testosterone was longer, making it less efficient at communicating signals—set off speculation that insufficient uptake of male hormones in utero contributed to a "more feminised brain." And the brains of trans people do look different."

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-science-of-transgender-20140730


And that isn't even getting into the complexities of someone born intersexed, who should have the right to choose the gender they feel most closely aligned to, even if that requires surgery.


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RE: What my daughter wrote says it all... - 5/13/2016 10:06:23 AM   
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The other point I want to make is that Gender Dysphoria is not about esthetics.
It is a recognised medical condition.

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RE: What my daughter wrote says it all... - 5/13/2016 3:01:58 PM   
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And some intersex people don't want to have to choose. They want to be accepted and not forced into a gender binary life when they can't be one or the other.

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