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Greta made some good points.

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How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift.

That's YOUR interpretation on her words.
As she has said previously, until it's actually born, it is wholly dependant upon the mother for its existance.

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How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death.

You don't. It's as simple as that. Nobody knows.
However, given the law of averages, said person isn't likely to rise to such dizzy heights.

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It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life.

Actually, until it's born the mother has EVERY right to control what goes on with her body.

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Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter.

Just because YOUR belief system is different doesn't mean hers is invalid or even diminished.

Your posts just show how blinkered and myopic your PoV is.
I won't belittle it because it's your belief.
But.... trashing and belittling others that don't hold to your own beliefs is puerile and obtuse.

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btw: London is in the UK

just in case someone did not notice the title of this thread

Nice try. Sadly I expect that, now that he is on his high horse and single handedly saving the unborn millions, he is not going to allow anything to stand in his way ......

Bye bye thread, it had some interesting bits while it lasted ......

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

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That's a very convenient reading of theodicy, isn't it? Free will is just a get out clause for God when the lazy fucker can't be bothered to do his job.
Cute!

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That's a very convenient reading of theodicy, isn't it? Free will is just a get out clause for God when the lazy fucker can't be bothered to do his job.
Cute!

You just showed your complete ignorance.

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

Are you going to pay to feed, clothe house and educate the kids you don't want aborted?
A simple yes/no question.
If the answer is "no" what right do you have to make demands of other people that you wouldn't do yourself?

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is!

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

Are you going to pay to feed, clothe house and educate the kids you don't want aborted?
A simple yes/no question.
If the answer is "no" what right do you have to make demands of other people that you wouldn't do yourself?

Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

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Is that from Acts or from the book of Enoch?

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How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death.

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It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life.

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Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter.

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is!

Nothing you wrote here can change the fact that it did contribute NOTHING to the topic.

Nothing at all. Anywhere ..

Just your agenda - yours only

Are you unable to start your own thread?

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How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death.

I'd say that babies born into parents who do not want them usually run the higher risk of falling into problematic people later in life just because, they were never given the love and nurture they need. That still doesn't justifie killing them.

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It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life.

Remember? Punishment of mother who aborts baby will be executed by God in after life. You don't have to worry about it. Nobody is saying it's right. I'm just saying, God will handle it. You don't have to help God to stop women from aborting their babies. I don't think it's expected of your Christian duty at all.

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Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter.

I have to argue about it in the point of Christianity. As I am more of a buddhist follower when it comes to after life and as I explained, if it goes with my own belief. Aborted babies soul goes immediately into another mother's stomach. Which is great! No adoption needed, the baby gets a chance to have a mother who might want him or her! So whether I go by Buddhist belief or Christianity Belief, abortion benefits the baby. And I have seriously asked several pastors to make sure they confirm aborted babies goes to heaven. I mean, I need to trust them to be the experts on this subject, as I'm not a Christian. So that's where my belief stem from.
And anyway, if Christian God sends all aborted babies to hell. Gee..., His mean!

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How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death.

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Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

Are you going to pay to feed, clothe house and educate the kids you don't want aborted?
A simple yes/no question.
If the answer is "no" what right do you have to make demands of other people that you wouldn't do yourself?

Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

So no, you refuse to do anything about the situation you're whining about, then. Thought so.
(And I love the way somebody who wants a return to a situation where a backstreet abortion will as like as not kill the mother as well as the kid is calling other people murderers. Cute!)