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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Isn't it supposed to continue expanding for a few billion years first before it begins to contract?

If it is then it could prove global warming is a natural occurrence of the sun growing bigger, but I don't remember reading about the expansion part.

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the side being called "deniers" will shows tons of evidence

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

So according to NASA,

Culprits are:

Co2 - solar powered cars and planes and trains, or anything that can be clean energy should fix this. Grow more trees?

Methane - Might have no choice but to just clone meat? No more raising cattle? It's now possible to just clone meat parts without raising a full animal. I bet cows releases more methane than anybody! I read that Kangeroos does not release any Methane at all, and breed easily and are in abundance. Maybe people just need to change to Kangeroo meat!

Nitrous Oxide- Can they then just stop anything that causes this? Seems to be just commercial and organic fertilizers, fossil fuel combustion, nitric acid production, and biomass burning

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
that was yesterdays bs, today we are concerned with another ice age.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

you would find it really helpful to do some homework, starting with the links I posted.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

but we are going into an iceage now, burning up was yesterdays rah rah.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Actually your question is not necessarily relevant to human behavior. Climate change meaning just that, can occur for natural reasons. I am thinking and not to derail but am asking you, do you really mean...is the planet getting warmer and is it because of man's contribution to what we have been told is [his] adding 37% more CO2 to the earth's atmosphere ?

It is my belief that the latter is what's true and because of the science of just how in fact...CO2 does hold more heat in the atmosphere.

The idea that CO2 holds heat into the atmosphere is not through what most of those who dispute the science believe...through convection or conduction. Those do not occur and the earth neither gain or loses heat in of from the atmosphere through conduction or convection as the earth lives in the vacuum of space. The gases themselves are held into our atmosphere because of gravity. That goes for all gases and is not why that additional 37% of CO2...causes global warming.

its a self balancing system, more co2 = more clouds = more sunlight is reflected away from the earth = less heating.


The problem is the increase in the suns activity, solar flares.




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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Lets see.. baker's dozen reasons climate change is a farce.

1. All the planets have seen increases in temperature. As far as I know, no humans on mars. Or on the moons of jupiter. How do you explain warming on jupiter if you blame everything on AGW?

2. Climate always changes. We go through a period of a 20 degree temperature change every 75K years. We are due for one now. How do you know that what you abscribe to anthropogenic is, in fact, not not natural change.

3. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Yay! However, each 10fold increase in c02 concentration only makes a small contribution to temperature increase). Straight out of the IPCC.

4. Ice cores reveal that CO2 concentration lags temperature -it doesn't lead it. By 600 years.

5. Boyle's Law / Henry's Law says that every tiny increase in temperature due to insolation will result in massive amounts of CO2 being released into the atmosphere. How would you differentiate planetary variability from insolation? Ie., how do you separate Boyles Law activity from AGW?

6. Svenmarks theory of non ionizing radiation (as confirmed by CERN) has a 96% R. Value. AGW R correlatin is less than .1.

7. Nasa published a paper that said -
a). The IPCC mechanism for aerosol formation is wrong.
b). We don't know the net effect of additional CO2. Low in the atmosphere it warms the earth. In the upper atmosphere it cools.

8. Judith Curry,a lead author of the IPCC says the aersol seciton is wrong, and the temperature record does not track the IPCC predictions.

9. Fraudulent data. More than two dozen instances of various meteorological organizations falsifying data. From Michael Mann (96% of all data sets treated as he does generates a hockey stick) to East Anglia refusing to release data, to Nasa modifying data and discarding the original, to nasa correcting weather temerpateure readings with changes 2x as large as permitted, to the attempt to use ship thermometers as opposed to well calibrated ground stations, to erasing the data from the 1920-1934; to proclaiming 1997-1998 the hottest year when 1934 was, to erasing more than 350 siberian weather station - to using the results of known defective Hadcrut-4 satelitte which is showing drift of .2 degrees per decade. The list goes on and on...

10. People that cannot predict the weather 5 days in advance believe they can predict it 10 years in advance. Some of their notable predictions - no snow in britain by 2016; no glaciers in the himalyas; no artic ice cap by 2016, mass extinctions of polar bears (record population btw). Record storms intensity. Also not true.

11. The guy that made the weather channel, the head of the french meteorological and the past emeritus president of the American Physics society have all labelled AGW 'a fraud'. Not to mention that the soviet nor the chinese academies of science have endorsed. At least as of the last time I checked.

12. More than 22,000 papers that disprove or disagree with the theory of AGW

13. The theory of global warming keeps adjusting temperature expectations downward, while increasing the certainty.

14. The primary intent and effect of the Paris accord was to extract cash from rich nations - and give it to poor nations. Primary target - US.

15. The yale report, which said, even if global warming were true, that it would be better to ignore it for 50 years and remediate.

16. Crop yields are up around 11% due to increased CO2. Benefits of higher CO2 are routinely discounted why the costs (250 million climate refugees!) even when not true, are bruited.