MrRodgers -> RE: Losing My Religion (5/8/2016 7:27:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers People can be spiritual, moral, behave peacefully and justly...without faith in any god or religion. It is up to the individual and community to secure their own spiritual happiness...without faith. In fact, the very reason that so much of what the doctrine or dogma calls for is not followed anymore, is because of secular humanism. Part one isnt quite in the correct order. One way to put it into perspective is that 'religion' is the visible product of spiritual, moral, peaceful and just behavior...and faith, with or without a deity, and they are the ingredients that when mixed together make religion. IOW, religion is the final product. It cant be reversed.[8D] Yeh secular humanism has undermined sacred institution of religion and with guns taken over and they will ruin you if you do not obey thy will of the lord god thy state. Well of course here again, I flatly disagree. You do not successfully claim the right to attribute my or anyone's good behavior to religion. In fact, that is an insult to me to suggest I or anyone needs that. Religion as a formation. call it institutionalized, has been one history's worse examples of a peaceful free thinking, moral civil society, having proclaimed so much that occurs there as sin and with dire consequences. Secular humanism has freed me from the dogma and doctrine that is simply history's most violent and unforgiving aspects of life...called religion. In fact, I write here as a sinner, not having committed genocide, murder, and the like as religion has instructed me. I do however enjoy when a 'slave' consensually serves me but not as disciple Paul sanctions...so I can more piously follow the lord.
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