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Lucylastic -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 11:48:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
oh so
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An endangered species which has been out-evolved and out-competed by those dominating male chimpanzees.
is your term for homo sapiens not Pan troglodytes now??
Makes sense.
LMAO
Seriously?

Bonobos are considered amongst our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. We out-competed and out-evolved them.

Duh.

Again, Christ some people are thick.


when you post bullshit and get caught on it, then have the nerve to try and backtrack so badly, you become irrelevant.
You have had a BAD BAD week for relevancy and fact.
why not put it down to a bad spell checker, that might have garnered a trickle of belief.





Lucylastic -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 11:49:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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Oh, I love the way you try and play mean girls by talking about someone to each other instead of to them.

It's something which men don't do. We're more directly confrontational. Well... unless you're a submissive male of course. Then you act like a girl.

QED.


Look, Awareness, word to the wise - maybe you should just avoid the forums at this time of the month? Particularly if you're having, well, not to put too fine a point on it, a very heavy one.

Males have hormone problems of their own without blaming it on menstruation....




WhoreMods -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 11:52:19 AM)

Possibly, but the sad thing about this guy is that he's faking it.
(Like every woman he's ever fucked...)




PeonForHer -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 11:54:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Males have hormone problems of their own without blaming it on menstruation....


Well, we can thank our lucky stars that Awareness will never suffer from them, as well, then.




Lucylastic -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 11:55:01 AM)

[;)]




stef -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 12:13:45 PM)


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when you post bullshit and get caught on it, then have the nerve to try and backtrack so badly, you become irrelevant.

When has he been anything but irrelevant? He's running neck-and-neck with Sanity for the ironic username award.




Lucylastic -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 12:39:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef


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when you post bullshit and get caught on it, then have the nerve to try and backtrack so badly, you become irrelevant.

When has he been anything but irrelevant? He's running neck-and-neck with Sanity for the ironic username award.

Well, I have agreed with him before, but I have also had bad judgement regarding some people, so I have to agree with you after the past few days of posts.





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 2:47:15 PM)


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And what does the social structures of other species have to do with those of humanity?
Sexual dimorphism, gender-based division of labour and patriarchal societies are aspects of successful species.

Matriarchal societies tend to be small, isolated or extinct.



Not among other animals, well at least their decline has fuck all to do with their matriarchal nature, and more to do with humans being out of control killing machines that wipe out entire species without regard to their social structure.




blnymph -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/18/2016 3:47:21 PM)


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Bonobos are considered amongst our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. We out-competed and out-evolved them.




Yes they are, and no, we did not.

Recent genome analysis leads to a conclusion that our last common ancestors lived about 6-7 million years ago. Since then human evolution went on, but so did theirs (both Pan species) although in different ways. It is a common misassumption that more "primitive" species of whatever kind at some time came to an evolutionary standstill. Some species or even orders (like for example sharks, crocodiles, nautilus, horseshoe crabs) reach a near-to optimum of adaption to their habitats at some early stage so that at least the external appearances appear unchanged for long periods. This does not exclude further evolutionary adaptions without externally visible consequences.

The "out-evolution" is not yet decided between humans and bonobos btw.
Bonobos seem to be immune to Simian immunodeficiency virusses (SIV which is most likely the same as HIV) while we (as well as chimpanzees) are not. If humans will not eat them all to extinction before the score might look different after a few more AIDS waves.
Nobody yet knows why they are immune but it might be something they developed during their more recent evolution apart from chimpanzees and humans.




crazyml -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 1:40:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
oh so
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An endangered species which has been out-evolved and out-competed by those dominating male chimpanzees.
is your term for homo sapiens not Pan troglodytes now??
Makes sense.
LMAO
Seriously?

Bonobos are considered amongst our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. We out-competed and out-evolved them.

Duh.

Again, Christ some people are thick.



Oh... so you when you typed
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An endangered species which has been out-evolved and out-competed by those dominating male chimpanzees.
you meant to say "homo sapiens" instead of chimpanzees?

Christ, some people are thick.




crazyml -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 1:59:41 AM)


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P.S. In case you didn't understand the implications - those tribal groups with matriarchal societies are largely dead because they had the shit kicked out of them by male-dominated societies.

Evolution in action.


Ah, one of the classic intellectual cul-de-sacs that MRA types like to pursue. It's very easy to draw simplistic conclusions from the past, but unless you apply some critical thinking you are apt to completely miss the most important points.

Environment is a huge driver for evolution, and many extinctions have occurred because the environment has changed more quickly than the threatened species can evolve.

Alas, MRA types don't seem to have grasped that the context in which Homo Sapiens exists has changed a tad since the stone age, and those traits of aggression and physical strength that saw the emergence of patriarchy are increasingly a hindrance to our survival...

Given that biological evolution trails far behind the evolution of our environment, we have to fill the gap with a little bit of intellectual evolution... something that a few people are demonstrably incapable of. Skills related to collaboration, compromise, empathy and long term strategy are more crucial to the survival of homo sapiens. These skills are very evidently sorely lacking in some.

And... evolution will not be kind to them.




epiphiny43 -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 2:30:13 AM)

A rather ironic username given the awareness of actual human societies through our technological evolution. Too much Saturday cartoons and pop-psychology from your local political propagandists??
Most small group hunting and gathering societies, the very ones that supposedly 'outcompeted' the other various primates, were largely matriarchies. More mixed than pure, females had roles and control, males had other areas. The emergence of patriarchies came with agriculture and animal husbandry, which are social and technological evolutions, not genetic, and not with far earlier group violence and competition where supposedly male physical dominance would prevail. Once there was yearly stored excess wealth (Food), and control of water became the instrument of power, power concentrated in the hands of a few. Patriarchs emerged, trade on a large scale developed, a military could be supported, and war as a social institution developed.
This is extremely late in the genetic evolution of Homo sapiens, a mere blink in the time real changes in the DNA, RNA and mitochondrial codes require. The later dominance of male dominated Western societies over more varied social structure pre-colonial societies had everything to do with material technology and disease histories and nothing genetic, other than acquired immunity to a variety of diseases developed in Europe. Guns, Germs and Steel covered that remarkably well.




otrok -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 2:54:33 AM)

As and whenever i see contemptuous remarks upon any subject i am reminded of the quotation that: 'Contempt before research and investigation is Not Science. On the other hand of which i have two. Contempt before anything is not only hateful its stupid.
Anyone who believes in any semblance of truth always realises that whatever the 'established' beliefs of the day are they will always be superseded, one way or another. All it takes is a Dictator to get into power and your beliefs will become theirs in next to no time. So we conclude by saying that in the blink of an eye the human mind can become as primitive as the merest life form; but to say that per see would suggest that primitive life forms are not intelligent.
I leave it with you to discuss.




otrok -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 3:15:51 AM)

I am being rather vague here; i realise that and i wish i could have said this better but i can't seem to edit or delete it now. There is no reference to any user here particularly by the way. After all i don't know them do i?




tweakabelle -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 5:33:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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Oh, I love the way you try and play mean girls by talking about someone to each other instead of to them.

It's something which men don't do. We're more directly confrontational. Well... unless you're a submissive male of course. Then you act like a girl.

QED.


Look, Awareness, word to the wise - maybe you should just avoid the forums at this time of the month? Particularly if you're having, well, not to put too fine a point on it, a very heavy one.

He's been having a heavy one since the year dot. That may account for his persistent delusions of intellectual prowess and erudition.

There are other explanations but as they are even less flattering I won't go into them right now.




verbatimguy -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 10:44:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I love the way you try and play mean girls by talking about someone to each other instead of to them.

It's something which men don't do. We're more directly confrontational. Well... unless you're a submissive male of course. Then you act like a girl.

QED.


Look, Awareness, word to the wise - maybe you should just avoid the forums at this time of the month? Particularly if you're having, well, not to put too fine a point on it, a very heavy one.


Is Awareness a girl or a boy?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 1:36:14 PM)

Who gives a fuck.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 1:37:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: verbatimguy


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I love the way you try and play mean girls by talking about someone to each other instead of to them.

It's something which men don't do. We're more directly confrontational. Well... unless you're a submissive male of course. Then you act like a girl.

QED.


Look, Awareness, word to the wise - maybe you should just avoid the forums at this time of the month? Particularly if you're having, well, not to put too fine a point on it, a very heavy one.


Is Awareness a girl or a boy?


You seriously need to step away from the computer. Indefinitely.




MsTanner -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 1:54:34 PM)

Absolutely agree.




Awareness -> RE: human evolution: women could have been in charge (5/19/2016 2:38:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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And what does the social structures of other species have to do with those of humanity?
Sexual dimorphism, gender-based division of labour and patriarchal societies are aspects of successful species.

Matriarchal societies tend to be small, isolated or extinct.



Not among other animals, well at least their decline has fuck all to do with their matriarchal nature, and more to do with humans being out of control killing machines that wipe out entire species without regard to their social structure.
You're not really at all clued up on how the natural world works, are you.




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