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Greta75 -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:07:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44
that has been pretty close to my experience.

the tremendously overwhelmingly majority of my messages either go unopened, deleted unread, or unanswered.

You need to work on your opening message to catch attention then. If a woman receives hundreds of email a day, should would just mouse over without clicking to just read first few words, and if it's nothing interesting, it goes "delete unread" especially if it sounds like template messages.

Like even a polite "Hi, How are you doing today?"

I never reply those. Personally, I hate being asked how am I doing today! Because it's the most insincere question ever. AS IF a stranger really wants to know.




MrRodgers -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:22:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: verbatimguy

I sent 100 today.

Nobody responded.

Why not?

YEA !! Me too, what's up with that ?




Greta75 -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:28:53 PM)

The only way you guys can send 100 messages today is to send a template message repeatedly to different women.

I doubt you thoroughly read each profile of each 100 women, and then say something unique relevant to what you have read about them, and ask something interesting.




MrRodgers -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:29:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

So, a question for all the men dissatisfied with the whole online dating thing...
Why the fuck don't you just turn off the computer and go out and meet women in the real world? It has a proven track record, it has worked successfully for thousands of years, in fact it works so damned well that there are now nearly 8 billion people.

Yea, I was told to get my ass not just in shape but really, really good shape (I do have 6-pack abs, you just can see them...yet) and go to a few strategic casinos and I'd get women my age and younger who could afford me. Ok, ok, at least take me home to their place and seek that I inspired their sexual submission. Ok, ok, let me have my way with them. I'm told there are lottsa rich divorcées and widows here in Vegas.

I am thinking about it...still.




Bullish -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:34:16 PM)

Hi vg

This is a sincere effort to help. Not being snide.

Disclaimer: I'm a Dom, not a Domme. There are some similarities and many differences. But I have read numerous comments on this by Dommes.

You sent out 100 emails today. And got 0% response. You sent...100...in one day.

You need to be patient. This is HARD. 100 in a day is, um...not that.

That pretty well means /I wrote one email and sent it to 100 Dommes/. Maybe you took time to write a really killer letter? Or...maybe not. But, by definition, generic.

Did you do anything that Dommes HATE in emails they get? Do you...even know what those are? Have you tried to find out ...maybe here?

So what part of the letter to each Domme addressed what She wrote in Her profile?

Did you even read the 100 profiles, and only send out to Dommes who actually seemed compatible with you...and who you have reason to think you'd suit?

That'd be 100 in your area? (No. There almost certainly aren't 100 Dommes in your area.) Or did you send to all over the place? (Even if you said "I will move to you") Distance matters.

Did you focus on her interests? Or, rather, "what you'd do for Her. What She could do to you."? In other words, focus on yourself and your needs. That's, apparently, pretty common. Dommes complain here that they're not "fetish delivery systems" for subs. That subs contacting them present as desperate and whiny. That they don't focus on the Domme's interests & preferences. Etc.

Did you list any non-kink skills? Hobbies?

Did you call her Mistress (or whatever)...before she actually IS?

Did you enclose a pic? You don't have one on your profile. Nor does your profile say much.

= = =
Advice: Look in your area. Your default search. Read the profiles. Pick 1 or 2 that actually seem like a good match for you and vice versa. And are close enough to you to actually meet without getting on a plane. Write them a custom letter. Refer to the things She said in her profile and how you can add a and b and c to Her situation. Touch on kink, but don't dwell. Focus on Her. (And not just in the ways that you fantasize and hope to focus on Her.)

Be funny if you think you can pull that off.

Keep it short.

Enclose a pic or two. Also, post a few on your profile. Something that shows some style. NOT DICK PIX.

Say more in your profile. If you do the above, She'll look at it. Try to express and impress when She does.

Wait a few days. No reply?

Repeat the steps.

= = =

2 GOOD letters twice a week. That's 25 weeks to cover the same 100. But hopefully you won't need to.

Just my 5c worth. Up to you.







BitaTruble -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:40:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: verbatimguy

I sent 100 today.

Nobody responded.

Why not?


Sometimes it takes longer than 9 mins. You wrote me at 1:21 and posted this at 1:30.. and you did get a response. You got it when I had the time to sit down and send and even though it was only one line in response to your one line.. you did, indeed, get a response.

Try to be a bit more patient and realize that most folks are working in the middle of the afternoon.




MrRodgers -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:41:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

The only way you guys can send 100 messages today is to send a template message repeatedly to different women.

I doubt you thoroughly read each profile of each 100 women, and then say something unique relevant to what you have read about them, and ask something interesting.

Are you kidding me woman ? Even though I had about a good dozen keys worn blank on my last ky. bd. (cheap) I know I haven't written 100 fucking emails in the entire 10 years I've been here. Let's all keep a good sense of humor ok ?




Bullish -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 5:45:53 PM)

Hi Snitch

(read this as whimsical; a funny guy riffin)

You send no emails...and your email box is full every day. A few reflections on that:

- Supply and demand. You are the chasee. He's a chaser.
- You get that much email...beCAUSE guys like vg are sending 100 blind copy-paste emails a day. Distance be damned.
- if you say "don't contact me" and they still write...that's also 0% success...in them heeding your instruction not to write.

Just sayin.

Regards.




Greta75 -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 6:06:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Are you kidding me woman ? Even though I had about a good dozen keys worn blank on my last ky. bd. (cheap) I know I haven't written 100 fucking emails in the entire 10 years I've been here. Let's all keep a good sense of humor ok ?

Even then, for those that really sent 100 messages in a day. Still relevant.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 7:05:17 PM)

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Personally, I hate being asked how am I doing today! Because it's the most insincere question ever. AS IF a stranger really wants to know.

I actually like getting those when I am having a shitty day, because then I can tell them exactly how shitty my day was and why.

They never really know what to say to that. :)




OsideGirl -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/12/2016 7:07:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Personally, I hate being asked how am I doing today! Because it's the most insincere question ever. AS IF a stranger really wants to know.

I actually like getting those when I am having a shitty day, because then I can tell them exactly how shitty my day was and why.

They never really know what to say to that. :)



Well...I've been throwing up and having diarrhea for about 24 hours.....and then there's this weird rash.....

[;)]




LadyPact -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 6:41:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets


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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think if I contacted ten people willing to provide any service in exchange for my money, I'd probably get all ten to respond. That's called good business practice.


It depends on how much money you offer.



It also depends on the service.

If, for example, you said you'd pay me to (do whatever), if I didn't feel like doing (whatever), no amount of money would sway me.

Really? FFS.

Maybe I should have said "willing to provide service X". In other words, if I were looking at ten ads for people willing to do lawn maintenance, I'm pretty sure they are willing to cut the grass if we can settle on a price for mowing the lawn.

If a person writes to ten pro dommes, isn't it reasonable to look at the ad the other person has provided and see if that is what you are looking for in the first place? Things like the person is at least in the business and as a part of that business, they engage in certain types of sessions.

Now, if a person was dumb enough to ask their hair stylist if they would alter their suit or their caterer to change the oil in their car, yeah, they might not respond. Some people are morons who just troll and aren't worth the time.





littleclip -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 6:56:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Personally, I hate being asked how am I doing today! Because it's the most insincere question ever. AS IF a stranger really wants to know.

I actually like getting those when I am having a shitty day, because then I can tell them exactly how shitty my day was and why.

They never really know what to say to that. :)

i would offer you my understanding and any help i could offer to help make it better if i could even just to be a understanding person that listens and does not judge




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 11:00:01 AM)

You're in the minority clip.




ilovestarbucks -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 11:40:50 PM)

Let's say you write one authentic email a week. Then after 100 weeks, your emails only reach 4 -5 "non-dead" profiles. Remember, 96% if profiles are "dead."

1 email a week = after 100 weeks, 96% of the profiles are still "dead."




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 11:48:16 PM)

And if you go to a munch or other lifestyle event, 0% of the people there will be "dead", same with bars and clubs, and church groups, and community groups, and with any number of other social groups in the real world.




DaddySatyr -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 11:49:21 PM)


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Personally, I hate being asked how am I doing today! Because it's the most insincere question ever. AS IF a stranger really wants to know.


I get these computer-generated (with rather real sounding voices) sales calls where the voice says (I'm paraphrasing): "Hi! This is Jill with Amalgamated Widgets. How are you doing, today?"

I tell the truth: "I'm dying, thank you".

Then, the voice says: "That's great to hear! I'm calling today because ..."

Some fuckers just don't get it.



Michael





Snitch -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/13/2016 11:57:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
if you go to a munch or other lifestyle event, 0% of the people there will be "dead"


^^ that




Shandirra -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/14/2016 6:59:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks
However, on this site, if you write to 10 Pro-Dommes, probably all 10 will respond.
Something to think about...


Apples and oranges, kiddo. Professionals, in any field, have a vested interest in replying. It's how they butter their bread. However, people seeking romantic connections are going to respond based on other criteria. They will understandably be picky.

Stop whining. It's as unattractive here as it was in your other threads.




WickedsDesire -> RE: CollarSpace Has Highest Response Compared To Others (5/14/2016 9:15:25 AM)

He is entitled to look without the whine argument being brought into the equation. You will note that many who invoke the whine argument tend to offer:

1. little substance on their profiles etc
2. Are in a glorious relationship – often many relationships – yet can spend 25 hours a day imparting their knowledge to whiners whilst, skulking about for fresh meat (see clause 3)
3. Have surrounded themselves with a clique – an army of yes people incapable of an impartial opinion.

But op you have so many profiles on here. Been afforded so many opportunes on here with everyone (fair mix of all) in conjunction with I have seen you offer these forums very little at all, or the same balarney, under so many guises.

This site has a serious problem with outright fake women profiles (majority is created by men) men are mostly to blame.

So I could cite anywhere but let’s go with the country I live in two mins whilst I run searches)
Parameters
All Women
Area all of Scotland

Results for the whole of May women count 50-60 and that’s from a population base of 5 million. And that is before I subtract all the blatant fake profiles (usually created by a man)

So when I factor in fakes pro real/scammers there may be 5-15 genuine women left. That’s women from a population base of 5 million How many of them are single and looking who knows. Not ten. And before I factor in the fracture damaged beyond all hope (clause 3 again) and subdivide them into top bottoms inbetween


Conclusion any women type are rare on here, and this site should be a lot better/fuller. Perhaps that is why I will meet people from the other side of the world.

Can’t be bothered talking about the men types on here

Solution
Spam everyone who looks, may be credible
Start your own site
Spread yourself on fetlife.com collarme.org and also pof okc – I have told you all this before.

The fake profile do my head in on here because it can be 100% of the ones I click on or who show up on my main page every day I log on here. Now if I could filter out all non verified profiles – that would save me going off on a rant now and then myself.

whoever said this has a little bit of a pointAnd if you go to a munch or other lifestyle event, 0% of the people there will be "dead", same with bars and clubs, and church groups, and community groups, and with any number of other social groups in the real world. and they made no mention the internet is a reflection of real life.

But not all can go or wish to go...for many different reasons.

Start a site improvement thread - but at the moment x many years no-one is listening for reasons I am not entirely sure ( I am a little aware of what has been happening).

Many have said that. Singles & couples (fakes dont count) did we have a point over the eons let us see
collarme userbase & genuine souls v fetlife 4-5 million users = no contest

Shame really, as I said never pay for any sites ever i am fine with a donation system

As for you OP....I refer you to parameter bit ad solution bit and if you ask this question one more time under your plethora of disguises my words will not be so kind as many single people, attached people, people not looking have afforded you a lot of time over the aeons with your repetitive nature. And that to me, is not fair, and I always draw the line at not fair.

Site announcement forum I am not allowed to post there to ask what the fuk is happening

Site improvement threads, ive seen a few over the epochs, but they go unanswered by the power (he) that is...perhaps he is unable to do so. But he must have minions - minions should always be chosen wisely and impartial - dont know any on here sorry.

comments please you regulars get together, and those who have been about since the beginning of time (hmm that be me too), and start one super thread and that includes couples and those not looking




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