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The original intent of the 14th Amendment was clearly not to facilitate illegal aliens defying U.S. law and obtaining citizenship for their offspring, nor obtaining benefits at taxpayer expense.

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This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

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The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.

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The demise of a good welfare system in the western world. Thanks leftists.

This twisting of facts includes claiming illegal immigrants get welfare, the fact that illegal immigrants can not get any welfare or other benefits seems to elude them.. children of immigrants that are born in the US are not immigrants, they are American and entitled to the same benefits that any other born-in-the-USA American child is..

That is not true. Prop 187 in California is a wonderful example. It was voted that illegals could NOT get benefits but a court overturned it so they could.

False.. The Feds challenged it & it was overturned as it covered areas of the law that the Feds (not CA) regulate.. the state overstepped its bounds & it was bitch slapped by the Feds as a result.. The fact remains that the Feds dont give benefits to illegal immigrants as proof if citizenship is required..

Absolutely Stupidly False.

Any patient coming to a hospital emergency room requesting emergency care must be screened and treated until stabilized for discharge or stabilized for transfer whether or not insured, whether or not "documented," and whether or not able to pay.

Emtala 1986. Used an abused for 30 years now. You should have heard about it by now.

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Nice backpedal, you are still wrong though. You stated " illegal immigrants can not get any welfare or other benefits." I have given an example where that is NOT true. So has Phydeaux.

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Equal protection under the law does not mean equal rights to welfare under the law.

The law says that one can not discriminate on the basis of race, creed color religion etc. Immigration status is not one of those protected classes.

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Equal protection under the law does not mean equal rights to welfare under the law.

The law says that one can not discriminate on the basis of race, creed color religion etc. Immigration status is not one of those protected classes.

Christ, I thought you were an educated man. The 14th Amendment prohibits unequal application of legal process and substantive inequality under law for all persons There is no mention of protected classes. It does not distinguish; it applies to all persons. Even corporate shills.

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Ah fuk! Bitching about food and healthcare for children is a new low for right wing arse holes.

There is this little glitch in the 14th Amendment that affords equal protection of law to persons not just citizens, not just documented, not just natives, not whatever, but to persons regardless of their legal status.

Clearly, the most humane and decent clause in our Constitution.

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The law says that one can not discriminate on the basis of race, creed color religion etc.

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Equal protection under the law.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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Ah fuk! Bitching about food and healthcare for children is a new low for right wing arse holes.

There is this little glitch in the 14th Amendment that affords equal protection of law to persons not just citizens, not just documented, not just natives, not whatever, but to persons regardless of their legal status.

Clearly, the most humane and decent clause in our Constitution.

I believe that was a BIG BIG mistake.

And now we must do it for the world. When are we going to Korea to straighten that out, and China. Ad in Russia Gays are not allowed to get big billboards to recruit new members. We cannot allow this to go on.

Actually if you look at the wording, unless you are 3/5ths White it doesn't apply to you. And you all missed that. The Constitution is indeed a racist document.

There are a couple of other cool things in there I will bring up in the future. When it comes up. I try to avoid starting threads.

T^T