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Lucylastic -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 6:27:28 AM)

He cant and wont, as he just keeps using the meme about the ACLU and Leftists and Islam.

PS Both of Billys kids are nuts
from the same link
Her brother Franklin Graham, founder of the charity Samaritan’s Purse, has previously accused President Barack Obama of spreading “immorality,” while praising Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, for instituting a ban on “gay propaganda”.

Mr Graham also claimed in a recent Russian newspaper interview that homosexuals steal children.

“Homosexuals cannot have children, they can take other people’s children,” he said.

Their father once said
I DON'T WANT to see religious bigotry in any form. It would disturb me if there was a wedding between the religious fundamentalists and the political right. The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it.
Billy Graham inParade (1981)
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/july/24.48.html



Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 6:48:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.



but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.



WhoreMods -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 6:49:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.



but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

I'll bite, then.
What historical atrocities are you attributing to atheists?



Real0ne -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 6:50:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

PS Both of Billys kids are nuts



they need to lock both them and dawkins in the room together.



Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 6:54:59 AM)

Waters keep getting murkier.
Who really cares which bathroom anyone uses unless your a creeper with ill intent.

If you take all the different interpretations off the table, no matter what religion someone claims to be, they believe in a creator of higher intelligence called by a different name.
Since Muslim vs. Christianity is flavor of the century let's break it down.

Two pitbulls
One pitbull raised in a Muslim family
One pitbull raised in a Christian family

It's not going to matter which one you put in a cage and repeatedly poke with a stick and taunt, either one will come out and bite.
Pitting religions against each other is as old as Father Time. Religions fighting with each other is as old as Father Time.
Who's at fault?
The pokers or the pitbulls.
Which came first the chicken or the egg
People are not pitbulls: or are they? Lol
We are suppose to have reasoning ability. For every action we create a reaction.
Good Lord, there has to be higher intelligence then this? Beam me up Scotty the natives have went coo coo.[:D]




Awareness -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 7:20:05 AM)


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The daughter of America’s most famous evangelical preacher has claimed that God let the September 11 attacks happen because he was angered by transgender people.

Anne Graham Lotz, the daughter of 97-year-old Billy Graham, said that terrorist attacks and bad weather were “evidence that God has backed away,” as a result of the policies in the US.

Mrs Graham Lotz, 67, who runs AnGeL Ministries, a church in North Carolina, added that the transgender row in her own state was an example of the “chaos”.

North Carolina’s governor ruled that people must use the bathroom corresponding to the gender on their birth certificate – sparking a wave of anger from gay rights groups and boycotts by businesses, entertainers and tourists. But Mrs Graham Lotz said the gay rights protest was an example of the “craziness” which was angering God.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/13/god-let-911-happen-in-anger-at-transgender-silliness-says-americ/

Wow. You can't make this shit up.

As a church lady myself, it drives me berserk when "Christians" like this make us all appear moronic.
Evangelical preachers are - by and large - an astonishingly vile corruption of a religion of peace, humility, poverty and love.

These charlatans employ trickery, psychology and media manipulation tactics to keep the dollars flowing in. They are vile, lying pieces of shit who deserve to burn in the Hell they clearly don't believe in.



MrRodgers -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 7:26:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

instead of blatantly criticizing the woman, and setting her up for people to view her as a "religious extremist" why don't you rather try to understand her theological and scriptural support for her reasoning?

Because there is no such reasoning, except that which she makes up in her own mind. The very idea, concept that some mystical belief in the some super god and a human created mythology around him, is either justification for or punishment for any alleged blasphemy motivates such manslaughter...is appallingly ridiculous on it face and something all of humanity is better served by the end of such faith...now.



MrRodgers -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 7:39:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Dizzy

Feel free to compare this to christians in today's world.


https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

I think I already won on this one.

Well hey, Christians also get to pick and choose what their 'good' book tells them what to do. It's a contest of who are the greater apostates, that's all.

Oh and 9/11 had no religious connotations at all.


kinda get tired of hearing that sentiment being spread around by people who are essentially outsiders looking in and who have no intimate knowledge of what they are commenting on.

if you think this is conversation-worthy, maybe start a new thread on it.



Outsider ? Outside what ? Some mystical beliefs that either justify and are to blame for such killing and destruction and for what ? 2000 years ? If I am an outsider, then I am the much more spiritually healthy than this whose claim to faith suggests this kind of reasoning and claims motivation for such.

These so-called good books and their teachings have been selectively butchered throughout history to establish all manor of spiritual or ecumenical or Islamic standards.

In fact, it's exactly because of that selective ridiculousness that Christians have deviated and from secular humanists, have seen greater spiritual truths and no longer stone their children, homosexuals, adulterers or 'soiled' brides anymore, or even sanction as all faiths once did...slavery.



MrRodgers -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 7:47:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.



but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

What unmitigated bullshit. In fact, on the contrary, atheism has not been responsible for such death and destruction even close to any of the religious killers.



Lucylastic -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 7:55:03 AM)

he thinks atheists and communists are the same(stalin mao, etc ad nauseam)but according to some you cant chose your religion, you are born to it and are seen as that religion for the rest of your life, (ignoring apostasy "rules")



WhoreMods -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:30:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he thinks atheists and communists are the same(stalin mao, etc ad nauseam)but according to some you cant chose your religion, you are born to it and are seen as that religion for the rest of your life, (ignoring apostasy "rules")


Quite a strange stance for somebody claiming Stalin as an atheist to take, given that he was raised Greek Orthodox and only decided that he was an atheist after he was expelled from a seminary when its staff decided that he'd never cut it as a priest.



Lucylastic -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:37:34 AM)

same with hitler, born into Catholicism. was confirmed in 1904, German Bishops excommunicated nazi leadership in 31 and banned Catholics from membership..basic history:)



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:42:35 AM)

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What historical atrocities are you attributing to atheists?

I am guessing Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and probably Hitler.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:44:06 AM)

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Quite a strange stance for somebody claiming Stalin as an atheist to take

He didn't, greta and Phydeaux did.



Nnanji -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:45:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.



but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

What unmitigated bullshit. In fact, on the contrary, atheism has not been responsible for such death and destruction even close to any of the religious killers.

Actually, Obama has already authorized more killings with drones than the entire Spanish Inquisition.



Nnanji -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:48:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he thinks atheists and communists are the same(stalin mao, etc ad nauseam)but according to some you cant chose your religion, you are born to it and are seen as that religion for the rest of your life, (ignoring apostasy "rules")


Quite a strange stance for somebody claiming Stalin as an atheist to take, given that he was raised Greek Orthodox and only decided that he was an atheist after he was expelled from a seminary when its staff decided that he'd never cut it as a priest.

So in your opinion then, once he stepped into a church, and even though he claimed to be an atheist, he was still a member of the church when he killed tens of millions of people?



Lucylastic -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:48:54 AM)

yeah and he is a christian!!!!
so is bush,



Nnanji -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:50:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

same with hitler, born into Catholicism. was confirmed in 1904, German Bishops excommunicated nazi leadership in 31 and banned Catholics from membership..basic history:)

So your claim is he was a Catholic despite being excommunicated by the church?



Lucylastic -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 8:51:17 AM)

no



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: 9/11 = God's Wrath Over Gender-Neutral Bathrooms (5/14/2016 9:01:41 AM)

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he thinks atheists and communists are the same

Most of the self proclaimed communists of the Marxist-Leninist type were atheists, it apparently being a central idea of Marx's philosophy. But Marx, being the contrary and very difficult to fathom fellow he was, also disproved of atheism, and in fact rejected the label.

Basically he believed that all forms of religion and theism were the natural result of the oppressive nature of human society, and that as long as that oppressive society existed, then religion was a necessary (or at least useful) balm for the suffering masses. He believed that when the ideal society had been ushered in, religion and theism would die off because the suffering that caused it had been done away with.

This is another thing Marx got wrong.

Here is a good examination of Marx's views on religion and atheism: https://www.quora.com/Was-Karl-Marx-an-atheist



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