Lookin4Lace
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Wow are we really pointing fingers already?
"Mechanical failure hasn't been ruled out either.
But considering the Airbus A320 has an exemplary safety record and is the most numerous of aircraft on the planet, it would imply that this would be unlikely. "
well now that we have established the aircraft's history lets take a look at the 15 worst airlines to fly,
No.7 worst airline,
From a pricepoint, Egypt Air is not a discount airline. But from a service perspective, it certainly seems like one. The list of complaints about Egypt Air’s planes is long and varied, from unkempt lavatories and dirty cabins to cramped seats and terrible food. Regular delays and disruptions are almost to be expected. Multiple passengers have been over-charged as much as four times for online bookings. Egypt Air had an incident in 2011 when the cockpit caught fire. None of this helps Egypt’s struggling tourism industry.
Now if they have this service record what do you think their service and mechanical upkeep of their aircraft would be?
now take into consideration that of the area's listed "Africa and Middle East" airlines with the most accidents and deaths by crashes take note witch airline is number one in the chart with the most accidents, hmm still thinking its a terrorist concept ?
Africa and the Middle East crashes by airline
Below are the number of plane crashes and other events by airline since 1970 that led to at least one passenger death. Each listed airline is currently active. The year of the airline's start of service is listed if it is later than 1970.
The table below lists the airline, the number of events with at least one passenger fatality since 1970, and the year of the most recent fatal event.
Africa and Middle East
Airline========FLE* Events Last
EgyptAir====== 6.68 8 2002 now this makes it 9 incidents
El Al=========0.01 1 1977
Emirates======0.00 0 -
Etihad Airways==0.00 0 -
Ethiopian Airlines 2.03 3 2010
flydubai======1.00 1 2016
Gulf Air======1.95 2 2000
Iran Air======4.20 5 2006
Kenya Airways==0.94 1 2000
Kuwait Airways==0.02 1 1988
Qatar Airways=== 0.00 0 -
Royal Air Maroc==1.71 2 1994
Royal Jordanian
Airlines=======2.72 3 1979
Saudi Arabian
Airlines=======2.01 4 2005
South African
Airways======1.00 1 1987
Tunis Air=====0.00 0 -
now as for the Airbus A320 model:
someone mentioned one of the safest models, well i think 13 accidents with a combined loss of life of and including this recent loss of life equals 1550 lost lives...
to add injury to insult lets look at fleet maintenance and charts on EgyptAir
Aircraft======== Number====== Age======== Rank for the age by aircraft type
Airbus A300======= 3=========-27.7 years=========== On 26 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 15
Airbus A320========11========20.1 years=========== On 241 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 208
Airbus A321========4========18.5 years============ On 93 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 87
Airbus A330========11========8.5 years============ On 114 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 68
Boeing 737========3======== 24.1 years=============On 240 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 125
Boeing 737
Next Gen========20======== 6.3 years==============On 226 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 67
Boeing 777=======7======== 7.2 years==============On 70 airlines operating this type of aircraft Egyptair ranks 36
TOTAL 59 12.2 years
The calculation of the fleet age can be approximated because it is only based on the supported aircraft currently in use
thats a big gamble on a 20+ year old aircraft and ranking a 208 and no this is not the A320neo air frame this is the MK1 air frame
to make this more apparent to you out there that are left scratching your heads by the above numbers and what it means
of the 59 aircraft in their fleet 1/5th of their fleet is flying MK1 A320's over 20 years of age totaling now 10 out of 11 with the recent loss keeping in mind that the age of EgyptAir has been in actual service all of 10.2 years this is not a good record since 2006
here is their current crash history enjoy
EGYPTAIR crash report
now of the recent air craft accidents in 2016, how many have heard of these
1. 2 February 2016; Daallo Airlines A321-100; SX-BHS; flight D3159; near Mogadishu, Somalia:
2. February 2016; Tara Air; DHC-6 Twin Otter 400Twin Otter; 9N-AHH; flight 193, Dana, Nepal:
3. 19 March 2016; flydubai 737-800; A6-FDN; flight FZ981; Rostov-on-Don, Russia:
4. 13 April 2016; Sunbird Aviation; BN-2T Islander; P2-SBC; Kiunga, Papua New Guinea:
"most recent"
5. 19 May 2016; EgyptAir A320-200; SU-GCC; flight MS804; en route Paris to Cairo:
now with above documented history of EgyptAir do you really think you can point the finger at terrorists? ok there is probably going to be some terrorist cell that will claim it as a win for their cell and maybe even the share holders of Egyptair will welcome that because it will take the burden off their shoulders, but IMO, add in the fact that they are still flying 20+Year old air frames, have the worst accident history in their service area, and the worst service record, i think it lends more to bad mechanics, service logs and more then likely pilot error for something that finally gave way in the aircraft
< Message edited by Lookin4Lace -- 5/20/2016 4:53:54 AM >
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