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Termyn8or -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/20/2016 10:33:04 PM)
Does anyone think anything out ? First of all, this information comes from the applicant or a government that has been all blowed up and is in shambles. What's more, these governments want rid of these people. Let me ask this, if you own rental property and want rid of a tenant, why give a bad reference ? You want him out, you want someone else to accept him so you can go back to a peaceful existence. So it it in your best interest to give a bad tenant a good reference to get the fuck rid of them. This ever occur to anyone ? If we had a serial rapist, killer and white slaver and he got off on a technicality and wanted to emigrate to Iran, what kind of reference would you give him ? You would say he is a fine upstanding member of the community and pays his taxes and what the fuckever else. Go. And when you see that Uhaul pull out then crack open that brewski, that asshole is someone else's problem. It is all in which side of the game you are on. T^T

DesideriScuri -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 12:35:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 Today: 51% don't want Syrian Refugees In the Past: 1939 - 61% don't want Jewish Children Refugees 1958 - 55% don't want Hungarians fleeing Communism 1979 - 57% don't want Vietnamese fleeing Communism 1939 - 67% No children from Germany 1947 - 57% No Additional European Refugees 1980 - 71% No cubans 1994 - 80% No cubans 1994 - 77% No Haitians 1946 - 72% No European Refugees I go this from the Daily Show (6:21), although, I hate how they are trying to say it's a race thingy, WHEN clearly back then, majority oppose Europeans Refugees too. And 51% is progress! In 1939 we didn't want any children from a country that was actively engaged in a war it started? Huh. In 1947 we didn't want any children from a country that we had just helped defeat in a world war a couple years earlier? Huh. Why didn't we want Cubans or Haitians? Just so you know, immigrants are not the same as refugees.

BamaD -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 2:03:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Does anyone think anything out ? First of all, this information comes from the applicant or a government that has been all blowed up and is in shambles. What's more, these governments want rid of these people. Let me ask this, if you own rental property and want rid of a tenant, why give a bad reference ? You want him out, you want someone else to accept him so you can go back to a peaceful existence. So it it in your best interest to give a bad tenant a good reference to get the fuck rid of them. This ever occur to anyone ? If we had a serial rapist, killer and white slaver and he got off on a technicality and wanted to emigrate to Iran, what kind of reference would you give him ? You would say he is a fine upstanding member of the community and pays his taxes and what the fuckever else. Go. And when you see that Uhaul pull out then crack open that brewski, that asshole is someone else's problem. It is all in which side of the game you are on. T^T Belaboring (albeit perhaps necessarily) the obvious. My point is that if you can't verify what you are getting why let them in. In the case of the Ca couple they found, after the fact, that her facebook was full of Anti American , pro terrorist postings. They didn't even do the interview that they were suppossed to. You do agree don't you that untill we do everything we can just swining the doors open is asking for trouble. I will take what you said one step further. If a Irainian terrorist is trying to get in here what kind of reference will we get from Iran?

thishereboi -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 5:09:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Not a difference you'd notice, sport. Butthair boy has been bitching all immigrants of a certain race, and you have a lot more legal moslems than illegal ones at this point. Yes, sport, there is a big difference between legal immigrants and illegal ones. There are more legal moslems than illegal ones, so what does that somehow make the illegal ones ok? Don't you think that if you can't properly vet people from a certain country you should put a hold on immigration from there till you can. Remember the moslems in CA got in legally because they weren't properly vetted. While there is a big difference between illegal and legal, the point isn't to help any of them. It's to paint the right wing as evil and saying they want to stop illegal immigration just doesn't go far enough to do that. Say they hate all immigrants and you might just get more votes. I read an article about a elementary school with a large immigrant population that has been fed that line of bullshit and now the kids are terrified because they have been told if a republican gets in they will be thrown out of the country. But I guess they don't care as long as the end result is people believing their bullshit.

Nnanji -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 8:26:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] The history of mankind is that people migrate and when they do the stronger tribe wins the territory. The Europeans didn't steal the Americas from the original locals. They fought and took them. Just as the original locals, who weren't original, did. The people that were here when the people we call native Americans arrived, didn't survive the native Americans. I know that Progressives believe if they can just make the government work correctly, of course after the government is made into a daddy authority, the government will pass laws against this sort of things and teach all its little children to behave properly. It's not going to work. The government will just Balkanize Europe and the U.S. Then there will be strife until one tribe wins. I'm not going to feel guilt for belonging to a tribe that was part of history and acted, historically, as man always has. I'm also not interested in seeing my country Balkanized by a tribe that has no interest in assimilation. The Muslim faith preaches that the second coming will happen just as soon as the world is all Muslim. They expect the world to capitulate to them. They do not expect to assimilate. If you listen, they will tell you so.

Aylee -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 8:32:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)]

WhoreMods -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 10:38:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)] Actually, I was pointing out that it's bit rich to be expected to feel any sympathy for a nation that owes its existence to that process when a few of its members start pissing and moaning about finding themselves on the wrong end of immigrant country theft this time. At least the nasty middle eastern sorts aren't giving you blankets satuarated with smallpox yet... [:D]

Termyn8or -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 11:03:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Does anyone think anything out ? First of all, this information comes from the applicant or a government that has been all blowed up and is in shambles. What's more, these governments want rid of these people. Let me ask this, if you own rental property and want rid of a tenant, why give a bad reference ? You want him out, you want someone else to accept him so you can go back to a peaceful existence. So it it in your best interest to give a bad tenant a good reference to get the fuck rid of them. This ever occur to anyone ? If we had a serial rapist, killer and white slaver and he got off on a technicality and wanted to emigrate to Iran, what kind of reference would you give him ? You would say he is a fine upstanding member of the community and pays his taxes and what the fuckever else. Go. And when you see that Uhaul pull out then crack open that brewski, that asshole is someone else's problem. It is all in which side of the game you are on. T^T Belaboring (albeit perhaps necessarily) the obvious. My point is that if you can't verify what you are getting why let them in. In the case of the Ca couple they found, after the fact, that her facebook was full of Anti American , pro terrorist postings. They didn't even do the interview that they were suppossed to. You do agree don't you that untill we do everything we can just swining the doors open is asking for trouble. I will take what you said one step further. If a Irainian terrorist is trying to get in here what kind of reference will we get from Iran? Actually Iran's support of terrorism is much overstated. Let's say Syria. Where the hell would you get ANY trustable information on Syrian refugees ? The US has done everything but declare war on them, so logically we cannot trust them. There might possibly be a database somewhere with arrest warrants and records. If so, then what ? We allow the ones who are accused or convicted of taking actions against the Assad administration ? In other words criminals. And then we reject what they consider law abiding citizens. What a hoot, but that would pretty much be the way to do it. What about Afghanistan ? Their law abiding citizens rape little boys. This is from US soldiers stationed there bitching about the fact that they are ordered not to interfere even though they hear the screams. But so what, it will just result in more PTSD and subsequent suicides and they can stop paying that pension. But then, I thought that was a Muslin country and homosexuality is strictly forbidden. Apparently not. But then Muslims also do not allow the growing of poppies for use in making drugs, which the US needs for both legal and illegal purposes. So don't wonder why we're really there. North Korea, if they tell us a guy is a criminal, we should probably take him, but if they say he is a pillar of the community not so much. Bottom line, they only claim to know. They do not know and cannot find out. Well lessee here, they make you wear a seat belt and get car insurance "just in case". But they can't use that reasoning when it comes to potentially dangerous criminal coming across our borders ? I swear they are out NOT to protect this country. I can't even go to Canada until 2020 because I got a DUI. And I think they are taking some refugees. And they got no better sources of information than we do. They are alot more liberal, and it is going to bite them in the ass one of these days. It is already biting Europe in the ass, or cunt actually with the rape rate going through the roof. The wrong people are running the world all over the place, of that there is no question. I see no way of fixing that. That is why I am invisible. Nothing is in my name, I work for cash and do not support their shit. I am done with these people who are running the place into the ground. (if you can call them that) That's right. I have a moral objection to doing anything, and I mean anything for this government. For private people who need a little help, that I can do. But even then, if you say one goddamn word about "we should bomb..." you are on your own. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 11:09:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)] Actually, I was pointing out that it's bit rich to be expected to feel any sympathy for a nation that owes its existence to that process when a few of its members start pissing and moaning about finding themselves on the wrong end of immigrant country theft this time. At least the nasty middle eastern sorts aren't giving you blankets satuarated with smallpox yet... [:D] We do not need sympathy, we need bullets. They fought back, now it is our turn. T^T

WhoreMods -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 11:15:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)] Actually, I was pointing out that it's bit rich to be expected to feel any sympathy for a nation that owes its existence to that process when a few of its members start pissing and moaning about finding themselves on the wrong end of immigrant country theft this time. At least the nasty middle eastern sorts aren't giving you blankets satuarated with smallpox yet... [:D] We do not need sympathy, we need bullets. They fought back, now it is our turn. T^T Maybe it'll work out better for you than it did for them, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting. [:D]

BamaD -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 1:49:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)] Actually, I was pointing out that it's bit rich to be expected to feel any sympathy for a nation that owes its existence to that process when a few of its members start pissing and moaning about finding themselves on the wrong end of immigrant country theft this time. At least the nasty middle eastern sorts aren't giving you blankets satuarated with smallpox yet... [:D] We do not need sympathy, we need bullets. They fought back, now it is our turn. T^T Maybe it'll work out better for you than it did for them, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting. [:D] You do realize that you are proclaiming your bias that Americans are inferrior to pretty much every one, including the place you don't want to admit being from, and that the perpose of illegals is to take over. You admit that it is not us waging war on them, but them waging war on us. You just destroyed any credibility you ever had.

Nnanji -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/21/2016 2:15:21 PM)
I quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Does anyone think anything out ? First of all, this information comes from the applicant or a government that has been all blowed up and is in shambles. What's more, these governments want rid of these people. Let me ask this, if you own rental property and want rid of a tenant, why give a bad reference ? You want him out, you want someone else to accept him so you can go back to a peaceful existence. So it it in your best interest to give a bad tenant a good reference to get the fuck rid of them. This ever occur to anyone ? If we had a serial rapist, killer and white slaver and he got off on a technicality and wanted to emigrate to Iran, what kind of reference would you give him ? You would say he is a fine upstanding member of the community and pays his taxes and what the fuckever else. Go. And when you see that Uhaul pull out then crack open that brewski, that asshole is someone else's problem. It is all in which side of the game you are on. T^T Belaboring (albeit perhaps necessarily) the obvious. My point is that if you can't verify what you are getting why let them in. In the case of the Ca couple they found, after the fact, that her facebook was full of Anti American , pro terrorist postings. They didn't even do the interview that they were suppossed to. You do agree don't you that untill we do everything we can just swining the doors open is asking for trouble. I will take what you said one step further. If a Irainian terrorist is trying to get in here what kind of reference will we get from Iran? Actually Iran's support of terrorism is much overstated. No it's not. Iran supplies/supplied most of the IED's that went to Iraq. It provides funds to Syrian who then spends them on terrorism is Lebenon, Isreal, Egypt and other places. It just had a general killed in Jordan that was working with terrorists there. Syria would not have been able to control Lebenon without Iranian support.

WhoreMods -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/22/2016 4:59:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick And back in the day they didn't want any Irish either, so what? I don't think the original locals were all that impressed by having a load of pasty faced Europeans turn up and steal their country from under them, either. (Always worth remembering whenever white Americans start bitching about immigrants...) [:D] Ya know, you make a good point. You are forgetting though, that perhaps we have learned from them what unchecked illegal/legal immigration can do. After all, you are pointing out that immigration did not work out so well for the then current occupiers. [:)] Actually, I was pointing out that it's bit rich to be expected to feel any sympathy for a nation that owes its existence to that process when a few of its members start pissing and moaning about finding themselves on the wrong end of immigrant country theft this time. At least the nasty middle eastern sorts aren't giving you blankets satuarated with smallpox yet... [:D] We do not need sympathy, we need bullets. They fought back, now it is our turn. T^T Maybe it'll work out better for you than it did for them, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting. [:D] You do realize that you are proclaiming your bias that Americans are inferrior to pretty much every one, including the place you don't want to admit being from, and that the perpose of illegals is to take over. You admit that it is not us waging war on them, but them waging war on us. You just destroyed any credibility you ever had. [img]https://cdn.meme.am/instances/37508308.jpg[/img]

Termyn8or -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/22/2016 2:12:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji I quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Does anyone think anything out ? First of all, this information comes from the applicant or a government that has been all blowed up and is in shambles. What's more, these governments want rid of these people. Let me ask this, if you own rental property and want rid of a tenant, why give a bad reference ? You want him out, you want someone else to accept him so you can go back to a peaceful existence. So it it in your best interest to give a bad tenant a good reference to get the fuck rid of them. This ever occur to anyone ? If we had a serial rapist, killer and white slaver and he got off on a technicality and wanted to emigrate to Iran, what kind of reference would you give him ? You would say he is a fine upstanding member of the community and pays his taxes and what the fuckever else. Go. And when you see that Uhaul pull out then crack open that brewski, that asshole is someone else's problem. It is all in which side of the game you are on. T^T Belaboring (albeit perhaps necessarily) the obvious. My point is that if you can't verify what you are getting why let them in. In the case of the Ca couple they found, after the fact, that her facebook was full of Anti American , pro terrorist postings. They didn't even do the interview that they were suppossed to. You do agree don't you that untill we do everything we can just swining the doors open is asking for trouble. I will take what you said one step further. If a Irainian terrorist is trying to get in here what kind of reference will we get from Iran? Actually Iran's support of terrorism is much overstated. No it's not. Iran supplies/supplied most of the IED's that went to Iraq. It provides funds to Syrian who then spends them on terrorism is Lebenon, Isreal, Egypt and other places. It just had a general killed in Jordan that was working with terrorists there. Syria would not have been able to control Lebenon without Iranian support. You don't see to know the definition of terrorism. Terrorism is when they blow up the Boston Marathon. When WE got THERE and fuck with THEIR COUNTRY, defending themselves is not terrorism. And countries that support them are totally allowed to do so, but the US government thinks it can ruin the whole world and say what is right and wrong everywhere. To the US and Israeli governments, huminitarian aid to the Palestinians is terrorism. This is one of the major things Iran has supported. Also, Israel has attacked Iran several ties and in several different way but Iran has never attacked Israel. Now if you want to say that a can of beans kept a Palestinian rebel alive long enough to shoot a bottle rocket into some Jew's swimming pool is terrorism, well then they're guilty. Another thing, the US is giving material support to terrorists in Syria, and Assad did NOT use the gas as proven by the company that sold it to him. No, they have fed you a bunch of bullshit. Their definition of terrorist has seemed to expand greatly. I would guess McVeigh was a terrorist, he wanted to instill terror, but at least he had the right target, the biggest terrorists on the planet - the US government. to put it right, Iran never funded terrorism at all. Iran funded human rights causes with which the US government disagrees with because it would hurt their financial interests. Most of this shit is all about the pipeline wars. Who controls the pipelines that supply Europe ? Of course there are seemingly tertiary issues, but those could be useful to that effect. Exxon and BP want control of the natural gas and oil, all of it. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? They use the US military as their tool to try to achieve that. The problem is all these countries are not just laying down and taking it. Would you ? If Gazprom (Russian oil company) came to the US and wanted to take over all the oil wells and other natural resources of the US, would you want that ? Or would you want soldiers in there to kill them if they did not leave when asked ? What's more, they shut down your production to keep the prices high and your people starve, but they bribe your government officials to allow them to keep on doing it. YOU would be a terrorist if you have any goddamn backbone. Seems like the people running the show have never been in a fight. At least with someone their own size. Actually they haven't. The cold war was a ruse to get public support for a military buildup. The Russians did more than the US in WW2, and notice how big a country Germany is. Look how big Japan is. Next time, Russia is not going to be with the US. They do not spend $400 on a toilet seat. They do not have their weapons built in China. And their people are now happy. Go ahead and fuck with them. You seriously fuck with Russia they won't even have to institute a draft. And China, as bad as it is kinda, it is better. They will fight for their country. Now over here, the only people who go into the military are those with absolutely no future. And when they get there, one a day commits suicide and a third of them are on antidepressant or other psychotropic drugs. Well you have to keep them high if you want them to commit terrorist acts. and that is what they do. They go to other countries with which we are not at war and kill people. You think that's OK ? One government's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. T^T

MercTech -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/25/2016 8:40:56 AM)
Cultural disruption fuels the perception... The average person wants to go about their life with as little disruption by outside forces as they can. A large influx of people with different cultures and even a different language is seen to disrupt the status quo. Yea, the average person is likely to consider an influx of immigrants as "I'm having a hard enough time why should I have to pay to support a bunch of foreigners?" Every time there has been a huge influx of immigration there has been a backlash against concentrations of foreign cultures. Over time, things usually settle out. I do think it is ironic that the main proponents of mass immigration are usually those that will in no way be affected by the immigration.

BamaD -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/25/2016 1:10:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech Cultural disruption fuels the perception... The average person wants to go about their life with as little disruption by outside forces as they can. A large influx of people with different cultures and even a different language is seen to disrupt the status quo. Yea, the average person is likely to consider an influx of immigrants as "I'm having a hard enough time why should I have to pay to support a bunch of foreigners?" Every time there has been a huge influx of immigration there has been a backlash against concentrations of foreign cultures. Over time, things usually settle out. I do think it is ironic that the main proponents of mass immigration are usually those that will in no way be affected by the immigration. It is not the least bit ironic. People always feel the cost of anything is unimportant.....as long as someone else is paying that price.

Termyn8or -> RE: History of US not wanting immigrants (5/25/2016 1:35:12 PM)
FR BTW about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq - the US supplied ALOT more weapons to Iraq when their "boy in Bagdad" was in their good favor. Like Assad, it was proven Assad did not use the gas. Obama didn't back down because of Putin or any other bullmotherfuckingshit the media told you. Porton Down, a company expert in the field said that the type of gas used was not the type Assad had. How did they know what type of gas Assad had ? THEY SOLD IT TO HIM ! So if you want immigrants from Syria, they are NEVER EVER going to be loyal to us because we fucked up their country and made them into immigrants, or maybe even refugees. Doesn't matter which side they were on, we are still their enemies, period. And Syria is not all that important in the pipeline wars. But they have too much time and money on their hands. Shit with Syria and Ukraine, they are just "refining" their "adjustments" to the world for maximum profits. Too bad this time it didn't pay off. These motherfuckers are so aloof that to punish Gazprom and Russia they drop the bottom out of oil prices, but not thinking about the fact that they got a BIGGER market and such an action costs them MORE. And given the fact that they are not stupid, this indicates that there is another goal, not yet revealed or discovered. There was never any real reason to go into Syria or Ukraine. This is really a small part of the overall market. Maybe they want Russia surrounded by enemies like Israel to support the defense contractors. Which are very much lobbyists/bribers. That make a little sense ? I am getting to the point where I think some places in the US deliberately inconvenience drivers with road construction to collect more gasoline taxes. I wouldn't put anything past these fucking goniffs. Enough rant. T^T

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