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DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump vs Clinton as of 5/21/16 (5/24/2016 5:10:07 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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ORIGINAL: ifmaz
While potentially beneficial in theory your government is removing choice from its citizens. One could argue they're no longer citizens but, to a certain degree, slaves.
We don't feel like slaves. We still have choices of where to live. But if certain areas have over quota of a certain race, then we just can't live there, no big deal. Find somewhere else. I mean it's exactly the same as IF you wanna live there but no houses are for sale, then you have no choice but to live somewhere else where they have houses available for sale right? Exactly same thing. Or wait until a house is available for sale then move to the area. The race quota is always changing. When someone of your race move out of the area, it opens, you can move in.
No, it isn't the same, Greta. That's the point. When you can only make choices the government determines, you don't really have freedom to choose what you want. You have the freedom to choose what your government wants.
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It enforces different races to mingle. If not, you will have racial enclaves and segregation, which is no good for race relations. I mean, US having these all black neighbourhoods are no good clearly. Our kids are doing better, our minorities are doing better. If that is slavery, then it's damn good slavery. You don't have poor and problematic kids all together in one area, where all they get is bad influences. Every kid gets expose to a variety of other kids with different backgrounds. And then the local school also, is managed by the areas. Because the areas have race quota. Only if you live within a certain distance from the school are you allowed into the school.
So the schools, you won't have bad schools and good schools. Every school has a good mix.
You are essentially being forced into desegregation according to skin color and quotas. That's racism. Period. While it may have some altruistic aim, it's racism.
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I think the US system isn't working because I believe black kids in bad neighbourhoods go to bad schools and only have bad company. It perpetuates their cycle, keep their social circumference close to within people in their same plight, they lack exposure to kids that come from healthier families and the opportunity to hang out with them and be friends with them.
You're wrong. Poor people (black, white, hispanic, etc.) live in poor neighborhoods. The poor people who commit wrongs are the ones that make the areas "bad." Sadly, it's becoming a generational thing where people growing up in those areas tend to stay there and raise their kids the same way they were raised.
And, you also have those that bust ass and work their way out of those areas. The schools aren't bad because of the school district, school staff, teachers or administrators, either. The problem with US schools is, by and large, a problem outside of the school setting. It's the home life and academic support they are missing.
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The US system is a failure.
It isn't a failure. It's rare that a person fails in this country while busting ass and working hard.
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I tell you what a difference it makes when a kid from a bad family hangs out with a kid from a better family. They are expose to different things.
I like to think Blindside is the perfect movie that illustrates this. Black kid gets adopted into a middle class family, gets saved from a life time of crime and gangs. They just need better role models.
I don't know how it's like in the US. Over here, our friends often hang out with our whole families. Like, I am always welcome to have dinner at my school mate's place and they are always welcome to have dinner at our place. It's Asian hospitality, we treat the friends of our kids, like family. And those kids can hang out with us all weekend and follow us on our family activities together too. Parents are all chill about it.
I was practically adopted by my best friend family, on weekends, I follow his family to go swimming, to beaches, whatever. And he is welcome in my family for the same things. And this isn't from teenager level. It's like from 8 yr old and stuffs.
As I said, I was chaffeured to school and back by a Muslim family, and they also take me out on their family dinners with them almost every night. Regardless of race or religion. That happens.
No one will argue that your circle of friends has a significant impact on you. I think you're going to find more people that will argue that government forcing you to live in a place based on your race is a good thing. You're taking away a parents' right to raise their children as best they can.
Think about it from the other side, Greta. The impact goes both ways. You want good kids to hang out with bad kids and not be as good?
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